One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 3
Discussion
InitialDave said:
nonsequitur said:
For how long? Traffic approaching at 60 plus will be fast approaching and will be thinking who is that ********** in my lane!!
Well, you observe/assess and make a judgement on that.Point still stands, if you do that, knowing you have enough time to be gone before anyone is inconvenienced, then if someone sees you and deliberately accelerates to make sure you're now an obstruction, so they can feel self righteous about it, they're the knob.
It's little different to the kind of dick that, despite having maintained speed in the outer lane for the entire time you've seen them, accelerates when you start an overtake and dare to pull into "their" lane ahead of them.
nonsequitur said:
InitialDave said:
nonsequitur said:
For how long? Traffic approaching at 60 plus will be fast approaching and will be thinking who is that ********** in my lane!!
Well, you observe/assess and make a judgement on that.Point still stands, if you do that, knowing you have enough time to be gone before anyone is inconvenienced, then if someone sees you and deliberately accelerates to make sure you're now an obstruction, so they can feel self righteous about it, they're the knob.
It's little different to the kind of dick that, despite having maintained speed in the outer lane for the entire time you've seen them, accelerates when you start an overtake and dare to pull into "their" lane ahead of them.
nonsequitur said:
However we disect / discuss this subject, I would argue that it is a foolish and not a little dangerous manouvre.
Well, like anything, it can be if you do it poorly.The way I see it, any time you're pulling right out of a junction, you're crossing traffic. If you assess that you're not going to create a problem for someone before doing so, it's fine, number of lanes and time taken to cross them don't seem particularly important beyond that.
I think the lesson that's meant to be taken is "don't change what you're doing in order to make someone's manoeuvre now be a problem just so you can prove some inane point to yourself", which I certainly see as many people who need that one as do "don't block traffic".
Bobberoo99 said:
How? Lane is empty and clear as far as the eye can see, what exactly is the issue with pulling out into it in the hopes of someone letting you in, I've done it, many, many, many, people have, I really see the issue as being the drama queen who seeing their path blocked, form some distance away I might add, decides to accelerate up to the car obstructing their progress, which in it's self is dangerous, and throw a hissy fit like a demented moron, instead of merely approaching said car and waiting, ooohhhh I'd guess at most a minute for someone to realise that the car is waiting to be let in and thus let them in!!!!
So "waiting a whole minute" is something that is entirely acceptable in your view. Whether the person being made to wait has been consulted or not?Is it only PH driving gods who are ever driving to the hospital to say a tragic last goodbye to a loved one, or late for a job interview as CEO of Apple, or any number of other bone-stupid excuses we've all read for terrible driving and dreadful risk assessment/management on the roads?
I'm heartily sick of thickos whingeing on elsewhere on PH about how they've been held up for ten, twenty, thirty seconds on a stretch of road by a cyclist or cyclists using the road entirely reasonably and properly, when there are "utter throbbers" ( © burnzyb ) in this thread defending utter retards who think it's fine to commit an offence (failing to Give Way as directed by signs and road markings) in order to save time on their journey...
The Department For Transport said:
The "GIVE WAY" sign and road markings: you must give way to traffic on the major road...
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/519129/know-your-traffic-signs.pdf...it's because the 'Give Way' sign is a REGULATORY sign, not a WARNING sign like the other triangular ones which have the triangle the other way up.
The highway Code said:
172
The approach to a junction may have a ‘Give Way’ sign or a triangle marked on the road. You MUST give way to traffic on the main road when emerging from a junction with broken white lines across the road.
Laws: RTA 1988 sect 36 & TSRGD regs 10(1),16(1) & 25
Wait behind the line. It's THE LAW. Simple. Or does the law, once again hypocritically, only apply to other people???The approach to a junction may have a ‘Give Way’ sign or a triangle marked on the road. You MUST give way to traffic on the main road when emerging from a junction with broken white lines across the road.
Laws: RTA 1988 sect 36 & TSRGD regs 10(1),16(1) & 25
Road Traffic Act 1988 Part I Directions to traffic and to pedestrians and traffic said:
Section 36 Drivers to comply with traffic signs.
(1)Where a traffic sign, being a sign—
(a)of the prescribed size, colour and type, or
(b)of another character authorised by the [F2national authority] under the provisions in that behalf of the M1Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984,
has been lawfully placed on or near a road, a person driving or propelling a vehicle who fails to comply with the indication given by the sign is guilty of an offence.
(1)Where a traffic sign, being a sign—
(a)of the prescribed size, colour and type, or
(b)of another character authorised by the [F2national authority] under the provisions in that behalf of the M1Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984,
has been lawfully placed on or near a road, a person driving or propelling a vehicle who fails to comply with the indication given by the sign is guilty of an offence.
yellowjack said:
Bobberoo99 said:
How? Lane is empty and clear as far as the eye can see, what exactly is the issue with pulling out into it in the hopes of someone letting you in, I've done it, many, many, many, people have, I really see the issue as being the drama queen who seeing their path blocked, form some distance away I might add, decides to accelerate up to the car obstructing their progress, which in it's self is dangerous, and throw a hissy fit like a demented moron, instead of merely approaching said car and waiting, ooohhhh I'd guess at most a minute for someone to realise that the car is waiting to be let in and thus let them in!!!!
So "waiting a whole minute" is something that is entirely acceptable in your view. Whether the person being made to wait has been consulted or not?Is it only PH driving gods who are ever driving to the hospital to say a tragic last goodbye to a loved one, or late for a job interview as CEO of Apple, or any number of other bone-stupid excuses we've all read for terrible driving and dreadful risk assessment/management on the roads?
I'm heartily sick of thickos whingeing on elsewhere on PH about how they've been held up for ten, twenty, thirty seconds on a stretch of road by a cyclist or cyclists using the road entirely reasonably and properly, when there are "utter throbbers" ( © burnzyb ) in this thread defending utter retards who think it's fine to commit an offence (failing to Give Way as directed by signs and road markings) in order to save time on their journey...
The Department For Transport said:
The "GIVE WAY" sign and road markings: you must give way to traffic on the major road...
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/519129/know-your-traffic-signs.pdf...it's because the 'Give Way' sign is a REGULATORY sign, not a WARNING sign like the other triangular ones which have the triangle the other way up.
The highway Code said:
172
The approach to a junction may have a ‘Give Way’ sign or a triangle marked on the road. You MUST give way to traffic on the main road when emerging from a junction with broken white lines across the road.
Laws: RTA 1988 sect 36 & TSRGD regs 10(1),16(1) & 25
Wait behind the line. It's THE LAW. Simple. Or does the law, once again hypocritically, only apply to other people???The approach to a junction may have a ‘Give Way’ sign or a triangle marked on the road. You MUST give way to traffic on the main road when emerging from a junction with broken white lines across the road.
Laws: RTA 1988 sect 36 & TSRGD regs 10(1),16(1) & 25
Road Traffic Act 1988 Part I Directions to traffic and to pedestrians and traffic said:
Section 36 Drivers to comply with traffic signs.
(1)Where a traffic sign, being a sign—
(a)of the prescribed size, colour and type, or
(b)of another character authorised by the [F2national authority] under the provisions in that behalf of the M1Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984,
has been lawfully placed on or near a road, a person driving or propelling a vehicle who fails to comply with the indication given by the sign is guilty of an offence.
(1)Where a traffic sign, being a sign—
(a)of the prescribed size, colour and type, or
(b)of another character authorised by the [F2national authority] under the provisions in that behalf of the M1Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984,
has been lawfully placed on or near a road, a person driving or propelling a vehicle who fails to comply with the indication given by the sign is guilty of an offence.
Bobberoo99 said:
You REALLY could have an argument in an empty room couldn't you!?!?!?
Address my question...yellowjack said:
...Or does the law, once again hypocritically, only apply to other people???
...and I may consider formulating an appropriate response to yours. Unless, of course, it was purely a rhetorical question, in which case it would have been better phrased thus:"I fully believe that you could have an argument in an empty room".
No need, you're welcome...
yellowjack said:
Bobberoo99 said:
You REALLY could have an argument in an empty room couldn't you!?!?!?
Address my question...yellowjack said:
...Or does the law, once again hypocritically, only apply to other people???
...and I may consider formulating an appropriate response to yours. Unless, of course, it was purely a rhetorical question, in which case it would have been better phrased thus:"I fully believe that you could have an argument in an empty room".
No need, you're welcome...
Bobberoo99 said:
nonsequitur said:
InitialDave said:
nonsequitur said:
For how long? Traffic approaching at 60 plus will be fast approaching and will be thinking who is that ********** in my lane!!
Well, you observe/assess and make a judgement on that.Point still stands, if you do that, knowing you have enough time to be gone before anyone is inconvenienced, then if someone sees you and deliberately accelerates to make sure you're now an obstruction, so they can feel self righteous about it, they're the knob.
It's little different to the kind of dick that, despite having maintained speed in the outer lane for the entire time you've seen them, accelerates when you start an overtake and dare to pull into "their" lane ahead of them.
Cheers, Jim
Bobberoo99 said:
yellowjack said:
Bobberoo99 said:
You REALLY could have an argument in an empty room couldn't you!?!?!?
Address my question...yellowjack said:
...Or does the law, once again hypocritically, only apply to other people???
...and I may consider formulating an appropriate response to yours. Unless, of course, it was purely a rhetorical question, in which case it would have been better phrased thus:"I fully believe that you could have an argument in an empty room".
No need, you're welcome...
"...So don't be afraid to let them show
Your true colors..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPn0KFlbqX8
Riding two-abreast, and not using a separate cycle path are valid and legal choices, involving proper use of the highway for the purpose it was provided for. Leaving sufficient space when passing a cyclist is also a legal requirement (dangerous/careless/inconsiderate driving laws apply here). But you don't think that this safe and legal use of the carriageway should be allowed? Yet you are quite happy to extol the virtues of committing an OFFENCE in order that you get home in time for the opening credits of Coronation Street?
As for moving cyclists "CAUSING AN OBSTRUCTION TO THE HIGHWAY"? Are you really so inept at driving that you cannot safely plan and execute a safe overtake on a road user travelling so slowly? Seriously now, if YOU can decide to obstruct a lane of traffic for a minute (or maybe a lot more) while you wait for a space to get into a queue that might, depending what stopped traffic moving in the first place, not move for some time, then it is entirely acceptable that you get held up occasionally by something, anything, cyclist, bus, bin wagon, milk float, etc, that is travelling more slowly than you but actually using the road properly. If you cannot see the hypocrisy in this, then you, and anyone who has to put up with sharing life with you, have my deepest sympathies.
Goodbye.
One single thing that makes me think "Knob!"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIhfwjWuj-I&fe...
That lad who killed a woman in London and then went on to be an arse about it? He was charged with Manslaughter over not having a front brake fitted. I wonder what this Cod Head would get charged with if his deliberately, and criminally dangerous electric motorcycle were to be involved in an accident that caused injury or death?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIhfwjWuj-I&fe...
That lad who killed a woman in London and then went on to be an arse about it? He was charged with Manslaughter over not having a front brake fitted. I wonder what this Cod Head would get charged with if his deliberately, and criminally dangerous electric motorcycle were to be involved in an accident that caused injury or death?
In my area of South London at the moment (it's probably been the case for a long time but i've only lived in this area for a year) there seems to be an epidemic of absolute idiots that just fly across mini roundabouts without slowing at all. It makes driving up to one a bit of a gamble as the chance of getting T-Boned or T-Boning (pfft) somebody else is actually pretty high. Extra Knobtacular points go to the driver of a Q7 who went straight across one at about 40 mph whilst bending down to get something out of the passenger footwell, not slowing down whilst looking straight down inside his car. This would have been horrendous driving if he was driving a little i10 or similar but to do it in that monster of a vehicle is just asking to kill somebody. How these people can continue to drive without writing their own or somebody else's car off once a month or more is beyond me.
Anybody who's visited Selhurst Park may have also noted a junction just behind it (Holmesdale Road/ Park Road junction) there which is nearly as bad , one of my run routes takes me past that way and in the last month alone i've seen 3 very near misses and one pretty horrendous crash last Sunday as people who are supposed to give way just seem to gamble and hope it's clear when they fly along Holmesdale Road. I'm unsure if it's just a reliance on a sat nav and thinking that as the road continues they have right of way or sheer boneheadedness which causes it.
Anybody who's visited Selhurst Park may have also noted a junction just behind it (Holmesdale Road/ Park Road junction) there which is nearly as bad , one of my run routes takes me past that way and in the last month alone i've seen 3 very near misses and one pretty horrendous crash last Sunday as people who are supposed to give way just seem to gamble and hope it's clear when they fly along Holmesdale Road. I'm unsure if it's just a reliance on a sat nav and thinking that as the road continues they have right of way or sheer boneheadedness which causes it.
2 knobs in the last week.
An older woman in a silver 04plate Micra (what else is always so badly driven) pulls straight out of a side road in front of me. rather than slam on the brakes and make a fuss, I could see well ahead the carriageway was clear so I overtook her at 30mph as she made no progress at all when pulling out. after my overtake she blasts the horn and flashes the lights at me well its her mistake I should of had the red carpet handy for her.
2nd knob coming to junction 4A on M3, where the M3 was shut the other evening and it was conned down to 1lane to allow traffic to exit onto 4a and follow the diversion.
The new average speed cameras were showing 40mph so I slowed to exactly 40 to avoid a camera flash
Retard in a 40odd tonne BOC tanker decided to flash his lights and tailgate and generally use his truck as a weapon at a protest of me keeping the limit . I'm keeping my licence clean thank you very much you w
ker you are a disgrace to your profession .
An older woman in a silver 04plate Micra (what else is always so badly driven) pulls straight out of a side road in front of me. rather than slam on the brakes and make a fuss, I could see well ahead the carriageway was clear so I overtook her at 30mph as she made no progress at all when pulling out. after my overtake she blasts the horn and flashes the lights at me well its her mistake I should of had the red carpet handy for her.
2nd knob coming to junction 4A on M3, where the M3 was shut the other evening and it was conned down to 1lane to allow traffic to exit onto 4a and follow the diversion.
The new average speed cameras were showing 40mph so I slowed to exactly 40 to avoid a camera flash
Retard in a 40odd tonne BOC tanker decided to flash his lights and tailgate and generally use his truck as a weapon at a protest of me keeping the limit . I'm keeping my licence clean thank you very much you w
ker you are a disgrace to your profession . Professional complainers http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41320615
Specifically:
Specifically:
James Doman-Pipe said:
he will not use South West Trains after a delayed journey.
"In January, I booked a train from Weymouth to London to visit family."
"Three weeks before the journey we saw a tweet about engineering works. This meant the journey would now take an hour longer.
"I phoned to complain and at first they made it seem like it was my fault for not checking. They would only offer a refund and no alternative journey, which meant being stuck in Weymouth.
"We ended up taking the refund and hiring a car - we've not used them since."
What does he expect them do do? Charter a private jet?"In January, I booked a train from Weymouth to London to visit family."
"Three weeks before the journey we saw a tweet about engineering works. This meant the journey would now take an hour longer.
"I phoned to complain and at first they made it seem like it was my fault for not checking. They would only offer a refund and no alternative journey, which meant being stuck in Weymouth.
"We ended up taking the refund and hiring a car - we've not used them since."
PaulGL790 said:
2 knobs in the last week.
An older woman in a silver 04plate Micra (what else is always so badly driven) pulls straight out of a side road in front of me. rather than slam on the brakes and make a fuss, I could see well ahead the carriageway was clear so I overtook her at 30mph as she made no progress at all when pulling out. after my overtake she blasts the horn and flashes the lights at me well its her mistake I should of had the red carpet handy for her.
2nd knob coming to junction 4A on M3, where the M3 was shut the other evening and it was conned down to 1lane to allow traffic to exit onto 4a and follow the diversion.
The new average speed cameras were showing 40mph so I slowed to exactly 40 to avoid a camera flash
Retard in a 40odd tonne BOC tanker decided to flash his lights and tailgate and generally use his truck as a weapon at a protest of me keeping the limit . I'm keeping my licence clean thank you very much you wker you are a disgrace to your profession .
These ring true. I had some little car once pull out from a side road when I was coming down a hill with about 1/2 mile visibility. Just because I van passed between me and him didn't mean I ceased to exist An older woman in a silver 04plate Micra (what else is always so badly driven) pulls straight out of a side road in front of me. rather than slam on the brakes and make a fuss, I could see well ahead the carriageway was clear so I overtook her at 30mph as she made no progress at all when pulling out. after my overtake she blasts the horn and flashes the lights at me well its her mistake I should of had the red carpet handy for her.
2nd knob coming to junction 4A on M3, where the M3 was shut the other evening and it was conned down to 1lane to allow traffic to exit onto 4a and follow the diversion.
The new average speed cameras were showing 40mph so I slowed to exactly 40 to avoid a camera flash
Retard in a 40odd tonne BOC tanker decided to flash his lights and tailgate and generally use his truck as a weapon at a protest of me keeping the limit . I'm keeping my licence clean thank you very much you w
ker you are a disgrace to your profession . 
At least they didn't do the flashy tooty when I just pulled onto the dashed box which is for the right turn coming the other way. They then drove at 30 mph, so glad I passed them instead of e-braking 
As for the average limit, I had them same on the M3, with a 50 limit and a Romanian lorry. Absolute cretins.
Edited by Solocle on Thursday 21st September 17:08
The resident in my road today having an argument with the Skanska operative(s) that were tasked with disconnecting / making safe the electrics of the damaged street light on the pavement directly outside their property / bottom of their drive. Their complaint was that they'd blocked said residents drive with their truck.
It's worth noting that the same contractors were also tasked with cutting off and lowering / removing the unsafe / leaning upper section and preparing the base (electric) section for removal at some point in the future, which isn't exactly a 5 minute job.
Now, personally I'd have said it isn't a good idea to get involved in an argument with them about it really. Especially when the resident doing the arguing is the same person responsible for damaging the street light in the first place as evidenced by the rather obviously damaged front grille, cracked front number plate, and bent / cracked upper & lower sections of the front bumper on their 3 series all of which perfectly match the shape of the damaged streetlight and the impact mark on it's lower section
Funnily enough the damage to the car didn't go unnoticed by the contractors and an hour later someone from the Highways Agency and Surrey Council had arrived and were taking pictures of the damage to the car
It's worth noting that the same contractors were also tasked with cutting off and lowering / removing the unsafe / leaning upper section and preparing the base (electric) section for removal at some point in the future, which isn't exactly a 5 minute job.
Now, personally I'd have said it isn't a good idea to get involved in an argument with them about it really. Especially when the resident doing the arguing is the same person responsible for damaging the street light in the first place as evidenced by the rather obviously damaged front grille, cracked front number plate, and bent / cracked upper & lower sections of the front bumper on their 3 series all of which perfectly match the shape of the damaged streetlight and the impact mark on it's lower section
Funnily enough the damage to the car didn't go unnoticed by the contractors and an hour later someone from the Highways Agency and Surrey Council had arrived and were taking pictures of the damage to the car
Edited by AlexRS2782 on Friday 22 September 17:19
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