RE: Audi RS3: Review
Discussion
350Matt said:
why is it 1600kg....
thats obscene for a hatch
no wonder it needs 367bhp
glad you awoke from your 20 year coma, all cars are heavy now thanks to strict crash regulations and buyers obsession with having more gadgets crammed in a car than your local apple centre thats obscene for a hatch
no wonder it needs 367bhp
the Mclaren 650S spyder weighs 1370kgs dry (so add 100kgs+) and that's a 2 seater made from carbon fibre
Chiefbadger said:
Bladedancer said:
If they make a proper estate version with a boot that you can actually put things in instead of that puny little thing hatches usually call a boot then perhaps it might be a contender to the title.
I had my name down for an RS3 as was trying to convince myself it could be used as a family car. Tried an S3 sportback and cancelled my rs3 earlier this week. Might be fine with 4-10 yr olds but with two young kids, buggy, scooters, bikes etc, it just doesn't work. Having read all the reviews in the last few days I'm feeling a little less annoyed about cancelling. If only they would do something similar to the golf r estate with a 5cyl!
Dave Hedgehog said:
i just dont know how all those parents managed to cope with the Mk1 or Mk2 golf back in the day, they are the size of a polo lol
+1. Some people seem to think they need a Transit to accommodate a family of 4. I can remember being shoehorned into the back seat of an old Corsa (as a 6-foot+ teenager) for a 150-mile journey...though Maybe that's why I have a Discovery now. 
8bit said:
GravelMachineGun said:
For that price is there a better all rounder?
Seems like a beast of a car.
http://used.jaguar.co.uk/search#/details/2580900Seems like a beast of a car.
5.0 supercharged V8.
You're welcome.
you will look like a pimp, unless your 70 and in the rotary club
you will die in a ball of flame going backwards into a ditch as soon as it rains
Dave Hedgehog said:
second hand
you will look like a pimp, unless your 70 and in the rotary club
you will die in a ball of flame going backwards into a ditch as soon as it rains
Second hand - yes but that's only a problem if you like depreciation.you will look like a pimp, unless your 70 and in the rotary club
you will die in a ball of flame going backwards into a ditch as soon as it rains
You'll just look like a t
t with no imagination in the Audi.You'd understeer into the path of an oncoming lorry in the Audi.
EricE said:
Hmm, understeer into the path of an oncoming lorry or be seen in that white jaguar... though call. I think I'd take my chances with the lorry.
I wouldn't; The XF is lovely and white is much better than "recession grey", though given the choice I'd either pick black or red.Ali_T said:
justa1972 said:
Sorry to repeat what has already been said but 0 - 60 in 4.3 seconds ????
Thats just insane !
Where will it end ?!?
Well, it started over a decade ago when STIs and Evos were happily doing those figures. Thats just insane !
Where will it end ?!?
Derwins Revenge said:
For a flagship version of a hatchback with much less 'look at me I rock', I think its pretty insane.
RS Audis, M BMWs etc. are hardly subtle these days and plenty of poseurs drive them...Audi A/S3s etc. being particularly adored by the "innit bruv" crowd. - As far as I can tell, the Q-car thing pretty much went out of the window about a decade ago, sadly.What this kind of car does offer over the older rally reps is decent fuel economy when not "on a mission" and hatchback practicality, though you could get that with the last Impreza.
Clivey said:
Derwins Revenge said:
For a flagship version of a hatchback with much less 'look at me I rock', I think its pretty insane.
RS Audis, M BMWs etc. are hardly subtle these days and plenty of poseurs drive them...Audi A/S3s etc. being particularly adored by the "innit bruv" crowd. - As far as I can tell, the Q-car thing pretty much went out of the window about a decade ago, sadly.What this kind of car does offer over the older rally reps is decent fuel economy when not "on a mission" and hatchback practicality, though you could get that with the last Impreza.
And really, can the innit bruv afford a new S3, even on lease? Granted with the R the cheap deals are widening the market, but even £280/month is a lot of money for the real chavs amongst us (not PH, in general
). I really like it, loved the last model but it wasn't a great drivers car, this seems much better and I couldn't care if it's not great on the track as I would never take it on one.
I've got a sneaking suspicion that the new M2 is going to give it a pasting though, but the 2.5T engine in the RS3 will likely be more raucous in noise than the M2's lump if it shares its engine with the M3/4.
Looking forward to getting down to my annoying Audi dealer soon to give it a go.
I've got a sneaking suspicion that the new M2 is going to give it a pasting though, but the 2.5T engine in the RS3 will likely be more raucous in noise than the M2's lump if it shares its engine with the M3/4.
Looking forward to getting down to my annoying Audi dealer soon to give it a go.
Well I like (the idea of) it.
It's not a trackday car - oh no, nightmare.
It's massively more appealing than the A45 to me. And whilst you can't brag (ha ha, that word) about being surrey's answer to Daigo Saito down the dog and duck like an M4 driver you will at least have a car that's a bit more usable and has a nice sounding engine.
I have always liked the idea of the 135i but then the Golf R came along and whilst it's desperately un-PH I think i'd have one of those instead as you know.. it's a road car and if you have to go putting lsds on it and the like then that's fine but you're going down a very specific route.
It does rather interest me when you get the vitriol against these cars for not being some hard core drift car.. whilst you might not get that impression from evo or whatever.. road cars just aren't all that good for the track unless you modify them (and make them less good for the road)*. if you're a real hardcore enthusiast well you'll have both won't you ? ( )
[ *an old Evo or something being a possible exception but with a 150 mile range etc etc that's not really all that realistic for many people. ]
and donl't get me wrong i am not wild about extra random stuck on crap on cars or anything like that and i couldn't give an arse about 'image'... but i like the idea of this car.
i think the 'image' conscious are all running around in 2.0 diesel s/r/m-sport efforts. in white. with blacked out rear windows. if anything BMW, the marque i always had more time for are the ones that are in some sort of weird 'what the feck are we doing' conundrum. making cars for the barratt brigade. certainly they're no better than VAG now. and certainly that makes them morally worse as BMW started (post bubble car!) on a higher footing but have gone worse... the m3 really does sound dull and the yas marina blue paint looks like it's off a 1990s Ka hire car that's been left in the sun. the m135i is fine and i have been in one and i wouldn;t say no but all this 'dab of oppo' 'RWD is the best thing ever innit' stuff is so dull. i haven;t driven one but from most things i have read a ruddy megane is supposed to have better steering feel than most bmws nowadays..
[ it's funny how things stick in your head. i caught and passed an e92 m3 in a 1.6 eunos at bedford and ever since i have been fully aware of the 'key board enthusiast'. i am a distinctly average driver but there are far too many people who buy these amazing rwd cars who then come on here and berate a perfectly good road car who can't drive for toffee).
(yes this post is littered with typos, poor syntax and dubious punctuation. that doesn't make a sierra a better car than an RS3 because it's RWD).
It's not a trackday car - oh no, nightmare.
It's massively more appealing than the A45 to me. And whilst you can't brag (ha ha, that word) about being surrey's answer to Daigo Saito down the dog and duck like an M4 driver you will at least have a car that's a bit more usable and has a nice sounding engine.
I have always liked the idea of the 135i but then the Golf R came along and whilst it's desperately un-PH I think i'd have one of those instead as you know.. it's a road car and if you have to go putting lsds on it and the like then that's fine but you're going down a very specific route.
It does rather interest me when you get the vitriol against these cars for not being some hard core drift car.. whilst you might not get that impression from evo or whatever.. road cars just aren't all that good for the track unless you modify them (and make them less good for the road)*. if you're a real hardcore enthusiast well you'll have both won't you ? (
)[ *an old Evo or something being a possible exception but with a 150 mile range etc etc that's not really all that realistic for many people. ]
and donl't get me wrong i am not wild about extra random stuck on crap on cars or anything like that and i couldn't give an arse about 'image'... but i like the idea of this car.
i think the 'image' conscious are all running around in 2.0 diesel s/r/m-sport efforts. in white. with blacked out rear windows. if anything BMW, the marque i always had more time for are the ones that are in some sort of weird 'what the feck are we doing' conundrum. making cars for the barratt brigade. certainly they're no better than VAG now. and certainly that makes them morally worse as BMW started (post bubble car!) on a higher footing but have gone worse... the m3 really does sound dull and the yas marina blue paint looks like it's off a 1990s Ka hire car that's been left in the sun. the m135i is fine and i have been in one and i wouldn;t say no but all this 'dab of oppo' 'RWD is the best thing ever innit' stuff is so dull. i haven;t driven one but from most things i have read a ruddy megane is supposed to have better steering feel than most bmws nowadays..
[ it's funny how things stick in your head. i caught and passed an e92 m3 in a 1.6 eunos at bedford and ever since i have been fully aware of the 'key board enthusiast'. i am a distinctly average driver but there are far too many people who buy these amazing rwd cars who then come on here and berate a perfectly good road car who can't drive for toffee).
(yes this post is littered with typos, poor syntax and dubious punctuation. that doesn't make a sierra a better car than an RS3 because it's RWD).
Ali_T said:
Nath1790 said:
I bet everyone will think you're a total 'boss' driving around in one.
Pretty sure that's not how you spell "knob".
To me, I totally agree with you. What a knob, but the world isn't made up of PHers. Probably a good thing though!
Derwins Revenge said:
You're right, the RS3 isn't overly subtle, but it's not rally rep style, which I think is too shouty (but then I'm 40!).
Obviously this is something that depends on individual models of cars but I can remember Subaru making the older Impreza WRX without the wing and with a few more interior refinements to appeal to a broader audience.
Plus TBH, the previous hatch appeared to be pretty generic...
...I mean; that could be a Corolla to the non-enthusiast.
Derwins Revenge said:
And tossers and poseurs are just that regardless of what they drive. I don't buy the folklore that people drive quick Audis and VWs to pose. I'm sure that most buyers just go for them because they like the fact they are fast enough when needed and sensible enough for everyday use. Not because they think it will impress Mr. Jones next door. But then maybe I don't have the poseur mindset.
Agree entirely with your first sentence, however it does seem that generally chavs are attracted to "German whips". I've spoken to several people, including my next door neighbour, that seem to think that a brand new Audi is a high score in their game of keeping up with the Jones'. Their look of horror when I park my Discovery up, caked in mud after an off-road trip, is hilarious! 
Derwins Revenge said:
And really, can the innit bruv afford a new S3, even on lease? Granted with the R the cheap deals are widening the market, but even £280/month is a lot of money for the real chavs amongst us (not PH, in general ).
As I said earlier, there are plenty of relatively wealthy chavs around. - I actually know of someone who's spending much more than that on car payments yet still lives with his parents! Even ignoring the "living with Mum & Dad" lot, you only have to look at the amount some people spend on bodykitted SUVs etc. to see that money does not equal class.). Clivey said:
As I said earlier, there are plenty of relatively wealthy chavs around. - I actually know of someone who's spending much more than that on car payments yet still lives with his parents! Even ignoring the "living with Mum & Dad" lot, you only have to look at the amount some people spend on bodykitted SUVs etc. to see that money does not equal class.
Absolutely, I just wouldn't use the term chav for those types, there are plenty of other words that the PH filter would obscure for them. Anyway, I think we're somewhat aligned and there's danger of a massive thread derail if we go into the semantics of the chav Just been having a laugh at the Audi website and the build an RS3 section. I'd have thought the magnetic ride control with RS Suspension (so what do you get as standard?) would be included but, oh, no, that'll be £995 extra, sir. Want it with a loud exhaust and an ECU flash to increase the limiter? £2495!!!! Cruise control? Optional. Rear side airbags? Optional (seriously? You allow people to gamble with their passenger's welfare for a few measly pounds?) Keyless entry? Optional. Sat nav? Optional. Privacy glass? Optional. Paint the callipers red (is anyone dumb enough to pay for this?)? Optional. Red seatbelt stitching (are they taking the piss?)? Optional. Best of all, hill hold assist? Optional. £90 to activate an extra piece of software already built into the ECU, I'll bet. I do despair of VAG. Even BMW aren't this ludicrously tight over their standard spec.
But, thegame is on. I've managed £53,600 OTR so far. Can anyone beat that?
But, thegame is on. I've managed £53,600 OTR so far. Can anyone beat that?
Edited by Ali_T on Thursday 16th April 15:31
Nath1790 said:
I reckon I'd love owning this car, I bet its a lovely place to be. I bet it sounds awesome. I bet everyone will think you're a total 'boss' driving around in one.
But even if I had money to buy a new car, I'd never choose it in the first place. £40k + options? Ugly alloys. 19" wheels!? A horrid elongated side profile like all recent a3's. No thanks. The only point in having the ceramic brake option is for bragging rights because it clearly isn't a track car. It's a big heavy straight line pose mobile.
In a saloon or actual estate form I bet it'd look fantastic but as is, it's not to my taste at all.
I'll stick to chavtastic 3dr hot hatches for now.
This is why I've bought the S1 instead of the S3. Plus I think the the S1 will be a more "exclusive" choice in a couple of years. But even if I had money to buy a new car, I'd never choose it in the first place. £40k + options? Ugly alloys. 19" wheels!? A horrid elongated side profile like all recent a3's. No thanks. The only point in having the ceramic brake option is for bragging rights because it clearly isn't a track car. It's a big heavy straight line pose mobile.
In a saloon or actual estate form I bet it'd look fantastic but as is, it's not to my taste at all.
I'll stick to chavtastic 3dr hot hatches for now.
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