RE: McLaren 540C Coupe revealed
Discussion
br d said:
mb1 said:
br d said:
Got a nice Euro hoon lined up in mine in 6 weeks time Street!
Le Mans ?(Then got another, much longer one lined up through France, Switzerland, Austria and Germany for July!)
garyhun said:
br d said:
mb1 said:
br d said:
Got a nice Euro hoon lined up in mine in 6 weeks time Street!
Le Mans ?(Then got another, much longer one lined up through France, Switzerland, Austria and Germany for July!)
My first one is just me and a guitar but the second one is 2 couples/cars so get your arse in gear and I'll race you to Füssen!
br d said:
No mb1, come back the week before. Heading a bit further down the Loire and then a few days coming back along the North coast.
(Then got another, much longer one lined up through France, Switzerland, Austria and Germany for July!)
Sounds like a good trip. Enjoy and post some nice pictures on the McLaren forum (that would change us from the usual discussions.... Follow my eyes !)(Then got another, much longer one lined up through France, Switzerland, Austria and Germany for July!)
I'll be representing McLaren at Le Mans on my own then (I am sure I will not be the only one given its the F1 victory anniversary)
Really impressed, in three years they offer an alternative to Porsche, go for it Maclaren, British, and hitting Porsche head on, I think the UK public should be very proud of a company doing this well and making a profit, I have been a Porsche man for 25 years but now I may change brands 
7lucky7 said:
Maldini35 said:
ZesPak said:
Maldini35 said:
ZesPak said:
Wow, really can't see anyone taking an R8 over something like this?
R8 has a 'snow mode'.The Macca is a nice looking car but not sure how many we'll see out when the weather turns iffy
You're right, I forgot all about that. How foolish of me, the Macca doesn't stand a chance.
Ask yourself which car would most people say is more useable? (Perception is reality in the big bad world)
Perhaps they want something exciting but also be reliable (by super car standards) so can it can be driven all year around.
Not everybody is willing to put up with a car likely to be beset by a host of teething issues and recalls symptomatic of a small volume manufacturer.
So the choice is :
One with long service intervals with over a hundred dealers around the country, quattro AWD and a snow mode
or £120k RWD Mclaren?
You're right the Macca doesn't stand a chance....
Silly boy
t about when it snows here, which is utterly irrelevant to 99% of supercar owners.7lucky7 said:
I don't know anyone who spends 125K plus on a supercar that doesn't have other vehicles in the family, or access to a more suitable day to day vehicle.
My take on it is that a carbon tubbed, gull wing door supercar from an F1 manufacturer will easily be abe to hold its own against the millionth version of the 911 (yawn) or an Audi.
I agree. Rich W does make a sensible argument but in my experience, the majority of these owners will be living in large cities if it is the case that they only have one car. Ie only having one car is a function of only being able to park one car. And as such, this car isn't used for commuting or essential daily travel so the need to drive in rare snow events isn't really there. Plus, having to drive in a city when it snows is something that only impacts people who don't live in the city but work there. My take on it is that a carbon tubbed, gull wing door supercar from an F1 manufacturer will easily be abe to hold its own against the millionth version of the 911 (yawn) or an Audi.
Edited by 7lucky7 on Monday 20th April 22:17
My personal view on this new model is that Maclaren are a fledgling car manufacturer who are still finding their way and that as they find themselves with spare factory capacity and debt to be serviced they are simply taking what they have and creating various packages in order to find the price point at which factory capacity is filled. It seems perfectly logical to me.
If capacity was taken up by the dearer model then they wouldn't have launched this but at this price point they open their brand up to not just the very successful people in their respective fields but the massive army of mediocre people and also not just middle aged succesful people but much younger ones.
The only risk is that this Macca may be far too exciting for your average public sector punter or mid level accountant, lawyer or dentist.
DonkeyApple said:
7lucky7 said:
Maldini35 said:
ZesPak said:
Maldini35 said:
ZesPak said:
Wow, really can't see anyone taking an R8 over something like this?
R8 has a 'snow mode'.The Macca is a nice looking car but not sure how many we'll see out when the weather turns iffy
You're right, I forgot all about that. How foolish of me, the Macca doesn't stand a chance.
Ask yourself which car would most people say is more useable? (Perception is reality in the big bad world)
Perhaps they want something exciting but also be reliable (by super car standards) so can it can be driven all year around.
Not everybody is willing to put up with a car likely to be beset by a host of teething issues and recalls symptomatic of a small volume manufacturer.
So the choice is :
One with long service intervals with over a hundred dealers around the country, quattro AWD and a snow mode
or £120k RWD Mclaren?
You're right the Macca doesn't stand a chance....
Silly boy
t about when it snows here, which is utterly irrelevant to 99% of supercar owners.
I wouldn't have put it quite like that but I agree with you.
The Macca is a lovely car and hopefully it'll be a pleasure to own for the lucky few but to many people it will be seen as a more risky choice.
They might be wrong (the Macca might turn out be more reliable than a Honda) but the point I was making is there will be a market for both this and the R8.
7lucky7 said:
You say you don't want to start an argument but then insult him in your final sentence...
but sir, he started it All I said that the R8 had a snow mode and he got all sarky.
I wish this new McLaren well, I really do, but to say that the R8 is now dead because of it is a bit silly IMO.
mb1 said:
garyhun said:
Does anyone know if there is any pricing anywhere on the McLaren configurator?
Have you tried to ring any of the dealers ?The last time I was with them, prior to the launch, they said they had deposits down already for the cars, so they must have.
garyhun said:
Phones? Pish!!! I just assumed, like the Porsche configurator, that you could see the basic and option prices as you build the car.
No no! When I was speccing my 650s on the configurator I was using a bad scan of an option list in Euros I found on the internet, didn't get any accurate figures until I sat down at the dealers.
GTEYE said:
Too many models too quickly, in my opinion. It was only 2011 (I think) when the MP4-12C arrived), I'm now losing track and to be honest losing interest, as they all seem to be rather similar.
And I'm sure they'll miss your custom terribly,assuming they ever move into the low end turbo deisel repmobile market.Don't understand the model consternation being expressed here. The original MP4-12C incurred massive start up costs along with the associated R&D. It's sales then predicated whether other models were possible. The complaints about the 12C were addressed in the 650S which, of course, included a new approach to model names. The P1 programme is worked through to its conclusion and then the 650S gets a longtail special which mirrors the later models specials offered by other supercar manufacturers. Having got their place in the market they can now up production and adapt some of their existing tech to make the simpler, less costly and higher volume 540/570. This will minimise the development costs of a new model whilst giving entry level customers a lot of car for their money. All seems very sensible to me. I once heard someone say that a 911 turbo costs around £3000 more to manufacture than a Carrera 2. The expense is in the R&D. Once that is being successfully recouped with a more profitable halo model you go for the volume model. I am now boring myself so I'd better stop. Just don't understand the McLaren flaming when other manufacturers like Porsche have proved the success of a wide and varied model range based around similar cars.
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