Car damaged whilst in care of garage - appropriate compo?

[Motorrad]

Studio117 said:

Tips are taxed retard.

IE Collected by the business, taxed then distributed amongst the waiting staff.

Edited by Studio117 on Thursday 7th May 11:19

bks, you're the fking retard if you think tips are going to be fairly distributed by the type of sts who add these sort of charges automatically to the bill.

Also I want my tip to go directly to the person who gave me good service.

When I think of how my friends who worked in the industry were ripped off by a well known chain that had the french word for red in their name it makes my piss boil.

[AyBee]

Jim AK said:

Shows presenter has said that she could take dealer to court because the offer from dealer didn't set a price for the meal.

She has said she does not know what to do & has been told about various mediation services that may help.

The listeners seem to now be judge & jury. I have to go out so won't hear their comments.

Since a large proportion of the bill was drinks and Audi offered a "meal", I'm not convinced she'll get far on that one...

[9mm]

A mechanic put a car of mine through a wall during an unauthorised drive. The dealership repainted most of the car and gave me a new loaner for the duration of the repair. Didn't occur to me to ask for anything 'on top'. It was an older car so I wasn't concerned about any effect on value but even if it had been new I wouldn't have expected anything above putting me back in the position I was pre-accident.

[Studio117]

Motorrad said:

Studio117 said:

Tips are taxed retard.

IE Collected by the business, taxed then distributed amongst the waiting staff.

Edited by Studio117 on Thursday 7th May 11:19

bks, you're the fking retard if you think tips are going to be fairly distributed by the type of sts who add these sort of charges automatically to the bill.

Also I want my tip to go directly to the person who gave me good service.

When I think of how my friends who worked in the industry were ripped off by a well known chain that had the french word for red in their name it makes my piss boil.

facepalm

I'm speaking from my experience in that industry you fking mong

[MitchT]

Jayho said:

What Limit in the future?

Whatever limit they see fit. In the woman's position I'd have sought clarification, but I do think the dealer was naive in not setting out some reasonable guidelines and it still makes me chuckle that a 'premium' brand's main dealership has been reamed for a change ... I bet their hourly labour rate is as inflated as her meal was.

[Devil2575]

Leptons said:

It's a second hand Audi. Where would you like them to find this Mythical undamaged car? Bearing in mind even brand new ones get pranged and repaired before PDI.

The woman is a stupid . If she drives a second hand A3 the Chances are she wouldn't normally spend £700 on a meal for 2. I suspect the Audi Manager was expecting her to go to her usual place - The local 2 4 1 and perhaps order a sharing platter each and a bottle of the £17 house Blossom hill. Naughty.

Bit of predjudice creeping in there perhaps?

I drive a 12 year old Focus and my usual place isn't the local 2 4 1...

[Motorrad]

Studio117 said:

facepalm

I'm speaking from my experience in that industry you fking mong

What does your job as a dinner lady have to do with the fact I don't like turds who add spurious service charges to restaurant bills and I prefer paying servers direct?

edit to add:
It's by no means compulsory for tips to be collected by thieving management pricks so they can then 'tax' it.

Edited by Motorrad on Thursday 7th May 13:37

[Sump]

Motorrad said:

Studio117 said:

facepalm

I'm speaking from my experience in that industry you fking mong

What does your job as a dinner lady have to do with the fact I don't like turds who add spurious service charges to restaurant bills and I prefer paying servers direct?

edit to add:
It's by no means compulsory for tips to be collected by thieving management pricks so they can then 'tax' it.

Edited by Motorrad on Thursday 7th May 13:37

Depends if you think it's fair that the tip goes 100% to the server.

What about the bookings lady? Floor cleaning staff? Dish boy?

[Motorrad]

Sump said:

Depends if you think it's fair that the tip goes 100% to the server.

What about the bookings lady? Floor cleaning staff? Dish boy?

Better it going to the server than having some management/owner scum thieves keeping it/taxing it.

[9mm]

To lighten the mood:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-qV9wVGb38

[Sump]

Motorrad said:

Sump said:

Depends if you think it's fair that the tip goes 100% to the server.

What about the bookings lady? Floor cleaning staff? Dish boy?

Better it going to the server than having some management/owner scum thieves keeping it/taxing it.

Why are you so fixated on this?

Are you an employee that's annoyed because you make someone else a big wad of cash or something?

[Tyre Tread]

Motorrad said:

Sump said:

Depends if you think it's fair that the tip goes 100% to the server.

What about the bookings lady? Floor cleaning staff? Dish boy?

Better it going to the server than having some management/owner scum thieves keeping it/taxing it.

Were they playing tennis?

[Motorrad]

Sump said:

Why are you so fixated on this?

Are you an employee that's annoyed because you make someone else a big wad of cash or something?

I'm a contractor so effectively self employed and am happy to make the people that employ me a 'big wad of cash'.

The reason I don't like service charges in place of direct tipping is as I outlined management/owners who are s often steal them or use them to top up wages. If management collect them then NI has to be paid as well as income tax.

It makes a lot more sense to tip direct. On every occasion I've eaten at a place with a 'surprise' service charge added I've got them to remove it and tipped direct.

edit to add: if you prefer TireTread I'll use the term 'ober' or 'serversteer'

[Studio117]

Motorrad said:

Studio117 said:

facepalm

I'm speaking from my experience in that industry you fking mong

What does your job as a dinner lady have to do with the fact I don't like turds who add spurious service charges to restaurant bills and I prefer paying servers direct?

edit to add:
It's by no means compulsory for tips to be collected by thieving management pricks so they can then 'tax' it.

Edited by Motorrad on Thursday 7th May 13:37

said:

1. Overview
If you get tips at work, they don’t count towards the National Minimum Wage, but you do have to pay tax on them.

How tips are paid
You could get your tips as:

cash at the end of a shift or from a customer
part of your pay packet
an amount that’s pooled and shared between all staff - this is called a ‘tronc’ and the person who looks after it is called the ‘troncmaster’

Obviously cash in hand tips will go untaxed as there is no way of recording them but many employers have a process in place to demonstrate that tax is being paid. How each employer handles this can vary though.

[Motorrad]

Studio117 said:

Obviously cash in hand tips will go untaxed as there is no way of recording them but many employers have a process in place to demonstrate that tax is being paid. How each employer handles this can vary though.

I've already covered that in my earlier reply. Do try and keep up.

The point is that tipping direct saves them Ni contributions you fking moron .

[Studio117]

Motorrad said:

Studio117 said:

Obviously cash in hand tips will go untaxed as there is no way of recording them but many employers have a process in place to demonstrate that tax is being paid. How each employer handles this can vary though.

I've already covered that in my earlier reply. Do try and keep up.

The point is that tipping direct saves them Ni contributions you fking moron .

Which makes next to no difference for the poor sod on minimum wage you bellend.

[Motorrad]

Studio117 said:

Which makes next to no difference for the poor sod on minimum wage you bellend.

So all waitrons are poor sods on minimum wage in your tiny mind?

Point is I'll carry on tipping direct and getting st establishments that add these charges to remove them.

[Old Merc]

I think the best way to solve arguments about tipping is stop doing it all together.Ban restaurants from adding a "service charge" on the bill.Ensure that all their staff get a proper living wage.I suspect many pay below the minimum hourly rate because of tipping.I like most people prefer to tip in cash,but by doing so we can be accused of encouraging tax evasion.
Why are we expected to tip restaurant waiting staff and not airline cabin staff? why tip a taxi driver and not a bus driver?

[Jayho]

MitchT said:

Jayho said:

What Limit in the future?

Whatever limit they see fit. In the woman's position I'd have sought clarification, but I do think the dealer was naive in not setting out some reasonable guidelines and it still makes me chuckle that a 'premium' brand's main dealership has been reamed for a change ... I bet their hourly labour rate is as inflated as her meal was.

Sorry I was meaning more along the lines that there probably wont be another instance in the future where they offer such good will. Rather than open themselves up to being stung twice, they'd probably opt for not offering such good will again.

[31mph]

What an utterly selfish woman, yes, maybe Audi should have stated a price limit, but to actually state one to her probably would have come across as a bit stingy.

Everyone wants something for nothing these days, accidents happen, I'd have been happy for them to just fix it and provide a courtesy car in the mean time...