RE: Mini Cooper S JCW: Driven
Discussion
Snubs said:
Today's word, children, is 'gopping'. Now let's use it in a sentence; "the current generation Mini is absolutely gopping". Well done, you can repeat this to your parents when you get home.
It is. Its massive too. Had one parked next to by R-reg volvo V40 and while its not quite as long, it seems to dwarf it everywhere else. A right Mr Blobby, along with the Mercedes A-Class.HJMS123 said:
daveco said:
I don't get how this has the same straight line performance as an E46 330 that weighed over 300kg more...
Is it down to gearing?
Or the driven wheels?Is it down to gearing?
kambites said:
daveco said:
I don't get how this has the same straight line performance as an E46 330 that weighed over 300kg more...
Is it down to gearing?
Traction, surely? Is it down to gearing?
*doffs cap and leaves thread happy*
I doubt 80% will be manuals. If you look on the MINI forums it's the opposite, most are going for the auto.
Not sure you can compare to the Fiesta, these are a lot more refined nowadays and are aiming at the Golf market. Couldn't see myself stumping up £30k but will have a look at a used one in a couple of years.
Not sure you can compare to the Fiesta, these are a lot more refined nowadays and are aiming at the Golf market. Couldn't see myself stumping up £30k but will have a look at a used one in a couple of years.
Oddball RS said:
Small car - automatic, its the equivalent of automotive dumbing down.
smaller class of car....but actually not a small car, unless the driver is 3ft 6"With that description and the fact that there are actually snmaller cars beneath he 'Mini', all its doing is keeping up with zeitgeist.
Having said that...the zeitgeist is dumbing down so...
More comfy inside and far better trimmed than mine - I know, I've been in one.
But it can never look as good as the R56 JCW, and I bet I can still give it a run for its money! Jeez, they've even tried to use my colour scheme (I know it's an option, but hardly anyone chose it, the majority went for black red roof mirrors. Ahh, just looked, it's not white, the new JCW is in that awful silvery white. Pepper white/Red much better!
Nah, still love mine - 3 years on in a month's time.
But it can never look as good as the R56 JCW, and I bet I can still give it a run for its money! Jeez, they've even tried to use my colour scheme (I know it's an option, but hardly anyone chose it, the majority went for black red roof mirrors. Ahh, just looked, it's not white, the new JCW is in that awful silvery white. Pepper white/Red much better!
Nah, still love mine - 3 years on in a month's time.
"But that's set to change because tens of thousands of the new Mini JCW's development miles have been carried out right here, on British roads."
I have an R52 Coopers S Works. The original R50/2/3 were mainly designed in the UK and the Works by the Cooper garage. So not sure the why statement above is made unless referring to the more BMW designed R56. I am sure that they tested the R52/3 on UK roads...since they were close to R&D. Maybe you could argue that they could have done a better job, although I love the way the way our JCW handles.
I have an R52 Coopers S Works. The original R50/2/3 were mainly designed in the UK and the Works by the Cooper garage. So not sure the why statement above is made unless referring to the more BMW designed R56. I am sure that they tested the R52/3 on UK roads...since they were close to R&D. Maybe you could argue that they could have done a better job, although I love the way the way our JCW handles.
Turbobanana said:
Equal-length drive shafts do work: Saab did it from 1967 onwards, admittedly with a longitudinal engine installation. No torque steer (lots of turbo lag, though).
Maybe in a straight line on a flat piece of road, but add cambers & corners into the mix and I'll bet £50 this still does it. 
t.Almost seems down on power compared to the rival 2L turbo's on the market. only has a new more BHP than most 1.6T's
Have to say im not a fan looks like a Mini Clubman as the front is so big. Sure it will really good to drive like previous models but i wouldnt be paying 25k+ for one. If im honest prefer the old one like the one pictured above
Have to say im not a fan looks like a Mini Clubman as the front is so big. Sure it will really good to drive like previous models but i wouldnt be paying 25k+ for one. If im honest prefer the old one like the one pictured above
Edited by texr2000 on Monday 11th May 19:49
Edited by texr2000 on Monday 11th May 20:11
I had a drive in one on Saturday thinking it could be a potential next car purchase and was left a little disappointed - I don't think it was the auto box, in fact I was glad to have both hands on the wheel at times under hard acceleration. I just don't remember it feeling as sweet as the Cooper S I drove previously - both of which had adaptive dampers. Cant remember if the S was on 17s or 18s but the JCW was 18s. Exhaust note sounded nice but the rev limiter comes too quickly/isn't high enough. Still a very good car but not for me.
hettonmassive said:
Who buys a car for the looks? Its expensive, popular and like our lass, does the business. That does me.
me to a large extent.I don't have the disposable income to do track days.
Very rare I find a bit of road to drive at 9 or 10/10ths where I live... even if it were legal. Roads are just in bad nick, or traffic is terrible - all those types of things.
How it drives IS important of course, along with the financials, the engineering, the build quality, relability, economy, performance etc...but personally I gain a lot of satisfaction owning a car that appeals to me aesthetically.
I wouldn't buy a car if beauty was it's only saving grace, but it is one of/the most important aspect to me.
The least most important aspect is how other people feel about my choice.
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