engines - crappiest of them all ?
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The absolute worst I have had the pleasure of driving was in a Ford Fusion, a truly terrible car with a crap engine - t'was a 1.4 diesel that managed to be gutless, noisy and totally st in every way, to top it off it wasn't even good on the old jungle juice because you had to tan it to make it go.
I wouldn't even use one as a boat anchor.
I wouldn't even use one as a boat anchor.
I drove plenty of rubbish petrols in the late 70's and early 80's but they were paragons of refinement compared to many modern diesels. I think the prize for noisiest must go to the diesel Jag X Type. Looks like a Jag (sort of) but sounds like a 1996 diesel Montego van.
An Harleys. Don't get that noise. V twins can sound great. Dukes and TLR's sound like heaven. A mate had a 78 Guzzi Le Mans and it made a tremandous noise. But Harleys sound my ears like some piece of industrial plant gone wrong. And then the owners take the silencers off. Every time one goes past it makes me feel ill.
An Harleys. Don't get that noise. V twins can sound great. Dukes and TLR's sound like heaven. A mate had a 78 Guzzi Le Mans and it made a tremandous noise. But Harleys sound my ears like some piece of industrial plant gone wrong. And then the owners take the silencers off. Every time one goes past it makes me feel ill.
AC43 said:
I drove plenty of rubbish petrols in the late 70's and early 80's but they were paragons of refinement compared to many modern diesels. I think the prize for noisiest must go to the diesel Jag X Type. Looks like a Jag (sort of) but sounds like a 1996 diesel Montego van.
An Harleys. Don't get that noise. V twins can sound great. Dukes and TLR's sound like heaven. A mate had a 78 Guzzi Le Mans and it made a tremandous noise. But Harleys sound my ears like some piece of industrial plant gone wrong. And then the owners take the silencers off. Every time one goes past it makes me feel ill.
Old mans TLR had open harpoon race cans, the smtek airbox mods and yoshibox, it sounded glorious An Harleys. Don't get that noise. V twins can sound great. Dukes and TLR's sound like heaven. A mate had a 78 Guzzi Le Mans and it made a tremandous noise. But Harleys sound my ears like some piece of industrial plant gone wrong. And then the owners take the silencers off. Every time one goes past it makes me feel ill.
Much like this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqeiAXIMi-M
Edited by cirian75 on Friday 22 May 07:16
Many will disagree but how the combined resources of Volkswagen Group could create such a dull, characterless engine as the 1.8T lump is beyond me. Had two cars with those engines and hared them - tuneable maybe but that's like sprinkling a dog turf with glitter and saying its now pretty
Tango13 said:
Mr E said:
castex said:
Crappiest flat 12?
Life racing?Google tells me it was a coloni-Subaru effort; and never made a race.
itcaptainslow said:
pigeonskirt said:
Rover K series??
Why?I accept that the K is very innovative, and has lots of positive attributes, but it has this massive, fundamental issue that you can't really overlook if you plan to own one for any period of time.
Two completely different engines, but with similar top end power, producing similar performance figures, but are night and day in use:
BMW S54 - E46 M3. A joy to use, hugely charismatic, goads you on to drive it harder. Hugely characterful.
BMW N55 - M135i. Near silent in operation, drives a bit like a good TDI, suffers turbo-lag. There almost doesn't seem any point in revving it out. At tickover, you wouldn't even know it was on.
BMW S54 - E46 M3. A joy to use, hugely charismatic, goads you on to drive it harder. Hugely characterful.
BMW N55 - M135i. Near silent in operation, drives a bit like a good TDI, suffers turbo-lag. There almost doesn't seem any point in revving it out. At tickover, you wouldn't even know it was on.
Limpet said:
itcaptainslow said:
pigeonskirt said:
Rover K series??
Why?I accept that the K is very innovative, and has lots of positive attributes, but it has this massive, fundamental issue that you can't really overlook if you plan to own one for any period of time.
Stuart70 said:
British Leyland 1750 engine found in the Austin Maxi . "E" series? Slow, gutless, thirsty, sounded dreadful, could not Rev to save its life; and still at the time, I loved it.
Until I killed it by trying to treat it like a GTI rather than a 3 bed roomed Victorian terraced house which it wanted to be.
The joy of first cars. Still, the engine really was crap. And the gearbox made the engine seem impressive, but that is a different thread....
My Mum had a yellow one (replaced a 1500 and felt no different). It was the first car I ever drove. It had a five speed gearbox! Within a year she replaced it with a Maestro 1600. That I thought that Maestro was a tight-handling performance machine by comparison shows just how awful the Maxi was.Until I killed it by trying to treat it like a GTI rather than a 3 bed roomed Victorian terraced house which it wanted to be.
The joy of first cars. Still, the engine really was crap. And the gearbox made the engine seem impressive, but that is a different thread....
Edited by Stuart70 on Friday 22 May 05:37
Zod said:
My Mum had a yellow one (replaced a 1500 and felt no different). It was the first car I ever drove. It had a five speed gearbox! Within a year she replaced it with a Maestro 1600. That I thought that Maestro was a tight-handling performance machine by comparison shows just how awful the Maxi was.
And a developement of that engine in a Maestro , mated to a VW gear box , a chimera of a car Today though, a marmite of an engine , my Daughters 1.4 Ecotmotive Seat Ibiza , a 3pot diesel ,from outside sounds like a bag of spanners with sanded ball bearings as a dressing ,inside though not so bad when under way , BUT ZERO road tax and getting on for 60mpg ,
Edited by MX51ROD on Friday 22 May 09:57
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