'Diamond cut' wheels - what a pain!

[vsonix]

Klippie said:

I love the look of machined finish alloy wheels or diamond cut as its known these days, it doesn't last unfortunately the corrosion starts on the very fine edge where the lacquer is the thinnest a few stone chips on this edge and they are doomed nothing can be done to stop this happening.

One long term solution is to have the wheels refinished with proper chrome powder coating, it looks just like polished alloy when done correctly.

It does look good but the disadvantage with powdercoat is it can't be touched up very well, at least with paint you can sand back an area then touch it up with more paint of the same colour but with powdercoat whatever you paint on has to be baked. Unless you can find chrome paint the same colour as the powdercoat which AFAIK is impossible.

[FurtiveFreddy]

vsonix said:

It does look good but the disadvantage with powdercoat is it can't be touched up very well, at least with paint you can sand back an area then touch it up with more paint of the same colour but with powdercoat whatever you paint on has to be baked. Unless you can find chrome paint the same colour as the powdercoat which AFAIK is impossible.

True, but getting a whole rim re-coated is cheaper than getting a diamond rim recut.

[ITBScone]

Thread bump.

First outing with diamond cut on my A45 and had to swerve to avoid a lorry coming round a blind corner on the wrong side of the road. Has taken most of the edge of the rim out so will need to be recut.

After reading most experiences of recut diamond finishes, I've opted to buy a used one off a low mileage car with no visible scraping, and keep the other as a spare. It only cost £20 more than getting the wheel refurbished.

I agree with most here, though, they don't even look that great and they're not easy to maintain.

[Graveworm]

Deep Thought said:

Its not just clipping kerbs through parking. Its stone chips on the wheels, pot holes, and in the case of one of mine i cut a corner just a little too tight down a back road late at night when pushing on and clipped the inside left wheel.

Theres no "learning" to avoid that, these things just happen sometimes.

Seriously,
Never happened to me but only been driving for 37 years..

[ITBScone]

Graveworm said:

Deep Thought said:

Its not just clipping kerbs through parking. Its stone chips on the wheels, pot holes, and in the case of one of mine i cut a corner just a little too tight down a back road late at night when pushing on and clipped the inside left wheel.

Theres no "learning" to avoid that, these things just happen sometimes.

Seriously,
Never happened to me but only been driving for 37 years..

And my sweater is green. That has about the same relevance as your comment. German manufacturers don't allow claims under warranty for corrosion due to having copious amounts of love and kindness.

[Graveworm]

ITBScone said:

Graveworm said:

Deep Thought said:

Its not just clipping kerbs through parking. Its stone chips on the wheels, pot holes, and in the case of one of mine i cut a corner just a little too tight down a back road late at night when pushing on and clipped the inside left wheel.

Theres no "learning" to avoid that, these things just happen sometimes.

Seriously,
Never happened to me but only been driving for 37 years..

And my sweater is green. That has about the same relevance as your comment. German manufacturers don't allow claims under warranty for corrosion due to having copious amounts of love and kindness.

I was disagreeing that "Learning" can't help prevent damage to wheels from pot holes or cutting corners. So probably more relevant than your sweater.

[Deep Thought]

Graveworm said:

Deep Thought said:

Its not just clipping kerbs through parking. Its stone chips on the wheels, pot holes, and in the case of one of mine i cut a corner just a little too tight down a back road late at night when pushing on and clipped the inside left wheel.

Theres no "learning" to avoid that, these things just happen sometimes.

Seriously,
Never happened to me but only been driving for 37 years..

And what - am i supposed to be impressed there?

[ITBScone]

Graveworm said:

ITBScone said:

Graveworm said:

Deep Thought said:

Its not just clipping kerbs through parking. Its stone chips on the wheels, pot holes, and in the case of one of mine i cut a corner just a little too tight down a back road late at night when pushing on and clipped the inside left wheel.

Theres no "learning" to avoid that, these things just happen sometimes.

Seriously,
Never happened to me but only been driving for 37 years..

And my sweater is green. That has about the same relevance as your comment. German manufacturers don't allow claims under warranty for corrosion due to having copious amounts of love and kindness.

I was disagreeing that "Learning" can't help prevent damage to wheels from pot holes or cutting corners. So probably more relevant than your sweater.

The discussion is diamond cut alloys, so unless you've got access to a CNC machine bigger than most peoples garages and the proper materials, or perhaps don't even own diamond cut wheels then the UK "not me" award isn't applicable here.

[Graveworm]

Deep Thought said:

And what - am i supposed to be impressed there?

Well no as it's not exactly difficult, which is the point. If something happened to me that plenty of people manage to avoid I wouldn't feel safe concluding that there is nothing that can be done about it.

Edited by Graveworm on Friday 17th May 15:00

[Graveworm]

ITBScone said:

Graveworm said:

ITBScone said:

Graveworm said:

Deep Thought said:

Its not just clipping kerbs through parking. Its stone chips on the wheels, pot holes, and in the case of one of mine i cut a corner just a little too tight down a back road late at night when pushing on and clipped the inside left wheel.

Theres no "learning" to avoid that, these things just happen sometimes.

Seriously,
Never happened to me but only been driving for 37 years..

And my sweater is green. That has about the same relevance as your comment. German manufacturers don't allow claims under warranty for corrosion due to having copious amounts of love and kindness.

I was disagreeing that "Learning" can't help prevent damage to wheels from pot holes or cutting corners. So probably more relevant than your sweater.

The discussion is diamond cut alloys, so unless you've got access to a CNC machine bigger than most peoples garages and the proper materials, or perhaps don't even own diamond cut wheels then the UK "not me" award isn't applicable here.

I responded to a post in this thread that was about diamond cut alloys. I have them they present no issues for me.

[Deep Thought]

Graveworm said:

Deep Thought said:

And what - am i supposed to be impressed there?

Well no as it's not exactly difficult, which is the point. If something happened to me that plenty of people manage to avoid I wouldn't feel safe concluding that it's not anything that can done about it.

So once in 30 years its happened to me, on a dark road, on a dark corner, at speed, late at night, low kerb, when the rest of the preceeding and subsequent road wasnt kerbed, skimmed the edge of one wheel by a mm on the apex, but clearly i'm a bad driver and should have been able to pre-empt that?

OK.....

Edited by Deep Thought on Friday 17th May 15:08

[Deep Thought]

Graveworm said:

I responded to a post in this thread that was about diamond cut alloys. I have them they present no issues for me.

Then you've been fortunate and your experience isnt typically representative.

[Graveworm]

Deep Thought said:

So once in 30 years its happened to me, on a dark road, on a dark corner, at speed, late at night, low kerb, when the rest of the preceeding and subsequent road wasnt kerbed, skimmed the edge of one wheel by a mm on the apex, but clearly i'm a bad driver?

OK.....

I have no idea how good a driver you are. I never said that you were a bad driver.
I was trying to say you were wrong when you said in relation to that incident :
"Theres no "learning" to avoid that, these things just happen sometimes."
I still think you were.

[anonymous-user]

Graveworm said:

Deep Thought said:

So once in 30 years its happened to me, on a dark road, on a dark corner, at speed, late at night, low kerb, when the rest of the preceeding and subsequent road wasnt kerbed, skimmed the edge of one wheel by a mm on the apex, but clearly i'm a bad driver?

OK.....

I have no idea how good a driver you are. I never said that you were a bad driver.
I was trying to say you were wrong when you said in relation to that incident :
"Theres no "learning" to avoid that, these things just happen sometimes."
I still think you were.

Actually you are wrong. Things like this do just happen sometimes.

Count yourself very lucky if you've never kerbed a wheel over the years and also in a tiny minority. That's of course if you're actually telling the truth..........

[Deep Thought]

ruprechtmonkeyboy said:

Graveworm said:

Deep Thought said:

So once in 30 years its happened to me, on a dark road, on a dark corner, at speed, late at night, low kerb, when the rest of the preceeding and subsequent road wasnt kerbed, skimmed the edge of one wheel by a mm on the apex, but clearly i'm a bad driver?

OK.....

I have no idea how good a driver you are. I never said that you were a bad driver.
I was trying to say you were wrong when you said in relation to that incident :
"Theres no "learning" to avoid that, these things just happen sometimes."
I still think you were.

Actually you are wrong. Things like this do just happen sometimes.

Count yourself very lucky if you've never kerbed a wheel over the years and also in a tiny minority. That's of course if you're actually telling the truth..........

+1

I think any time you drive enthusiastically you run a very small risk of damage even if thats just a chip from a stone thrown up or an unexpected stone on the road. Drive enthusiastically often and the risk increases.

[Graveworm]

ruprechtmonkeyboy said:

Actually you are wrong. Things like this do just happen sometimes.

Count yourself very lucky if you've never kerbed a wheel over the years and also in a tiny minority. That's of course if you're actually telling the truth..........

I count myself lucky for a lot of reasons, not having had accidents features amongst that. But they don't just happen why on earth is kerbing a wheel, that different from any other accident?

Edited by Graveworm on Friday 17th May 16:03

[Deep Thought]

Graveworm said:

I count myself lucky for a lot of reasons, not having had accidents features amongst that. But they don't just happen why on earth is kerbing a wheel, that different from any other accident?

Edited by Graveworm on Friday 17th May 16:03

Oxford English dictionary definition -

(1) "an unfortunate incident that happens unexpectedly and unintentionally, typically resulting in damage or injury"

or

(2) "An event that happens by chance or that is without apparent or deliberate cause."

Neither definition implies any sort of preventability or negligence.

Sometimes accidents just happen.

Have you never ever hit a pothole on a road or an unexpected stone or bump then in your 37 years of driving?

[Graveworm]

Deep Thought said:

Oxford English dictionary definition -

(1) "an unfortunate incident that happens unexpectedly and unintentionally, typically resulting in damage or injury"

or

(2) "An event that happens by chance or that is without apparent or deliberate cause."

Neither definition implies any sort of preventability or negligence.

Sometimes accidents just happen.

Have you never ever hit a pothole on a road or an unexpected stone or bump then in your 37 years of driving?

Pothole not without meaning to - bump or stone sure. Never bad enough to damage anything though. All of them were preventable if I had driven better. We can use the PC term collision, or how courts define an RTA if you prefer. But you knew what I meant. Driving into a stationary object never just happens.

[Deep Thought]

Graveworm said:

Pothole not without meaning to - bump or stone sure. Never bad enough to damage anything though. All of them were preventable if I had driven better. We can use the PC term collision, or how courts define an RTA if you prefer. But you knew what I meant. Driving into a stationary object never just happens.

So the difference between you hitting that unexpected pothole, bump or stone is a matter of the difference of a few centimetres driving correction, and purely luck that it wasnt big enough to crack a rim or make a tyre bulge. I clipped that unexpected kerb by 1mm.....

[Graveworm]

Deep Thought said:

So the difference between you hitting that unexpected pothole, bump or stone is a matter of the difference of a few centimetres driving correction, and purely luck that it wasnt big enough to crack a rim or make a tyre bulge. I clipped that unexpected kerb by 1mm.....

Sure I get that, as I said I have never hit an unexpected pothole, but driven through loads because I live in Surrey for one thing, I wasn't presuming to judge your driving or - assuming I was in any way better. if any of these things had happened to me or I drove too fast through a pothole then - and I will leave it here, there IS "learning to avoid that" it didn't just happen.

Edited by Graveworm on Friday 17th May 17:04