Pistonheads vehicles you don't "get"
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maxdb said:
TVR's - as much as I try and like them, they just don't do it for me. They just remind me of a kit car.
Can't believe I got to page 4 before they were mentioned .....!They may look the part but they're uncomfortable to sit in, uncomfortable on the ears, have badly fitting panels and are generally badly built in every other department.
You've only got to see the amount of new daily threads that could be put under the general heading of 'Another TVR with another problem' to realise that to keep them in full working order they are nothing but an expensive and everlasting 'project'.
Nickbrapp said:
talksthetorque said:
Shedding Sheds.
Who wants to drive around taping/cable tie-ing their car together to keep it working for a year?
I heard it's the smug sense of self satisfaction you get over people driving their diesel financed rep mobiles or something as equally as pretentiousWho wants to drive around taping/cable tie-ing their car together to keep it working for a year?
Clio Trophy - the magazines go on and on about them. They should really try the megane R26 from the same era, miles better.
Terrible ride (so crash bang wallop it's a joke tbh), slow, poor brakes, weird driving position (wow it's got recaro seats!!) and not particularly cheap to run given it's only a clio. Was glad to see the back of it but the fuss still goes on?? Probably just me!!
Terrible ride (so crash bang wallop it's a joke tbh), slow, poor brakes, weird driving position (wow it's got recaro seats!!) and not particularly cheap to run given it's only a clio. Was glad to see the back of it but the fuss still goes on?? Probably just me!!
MX-5 - Just too female orientated for me.
Golf R - Rather get a Gti , just seems overkill for the brand.
Dacia Sandero - Just screams justified cheapskate.
TVR - The brand is just a joke now, i really hope them come up with a new prodcut but more chances of seeing pigs on the moon.
Big 2nd hand luxo barges for plutocratic wannerbe spendthrifts, who run it on a shoestring and then sell it on, just get a car you can afford.
Golf R - Rather get a Gti , just seems overkill for the brand.
Dacia Sandero - Just screams justified cheapskate.
TVR - The brand is just a joke now, i really hope them come up with a new prodcut but more chances of seeing pigs on the moon.
Big 2nd hand luxo barges for plutocratic wannerbe spendthrifts, who run it on a shoestring and then sell it on, just get a car you can afford.
heebeegeetee said:
My pal has one, it ferries his life while being fast at the same time, and it's going to cost him £6500 to use it for two years.
See that's the same as it cost me to get my Skyline from Japan, only life thing it can't ferry is long thin things from Ikea. RobinBanks said:
I'm not especially interested in the Golf, but in what way are those ANY more interesting?
I view the Golf in the same way that you view my selection. I'll give you the 850 is uninteresting, but the Aristo/Chaser both have detuned engine's from the Supra's in them, big engine in family saloon = fun & interesting in my books, the classic Impreza's I grew up watching slay much more exotic machines marks them out as something special, and the BMW's are alot of classic RWD fun E39 M5 would be a hoot compared to the VW. nunpuncher said:
The other is Volvo. They have always been the maker of safe but never exciting cars to me. "Good in a crash" seemed to be what they were known for when i was growing up (in the 80s) and the only one I can really remember thinking "that's verging on interesting" was the v90 turbo because the traffic police used them so they must have been quick. I then see lots of praise for older models, both petrol and diesel on here and I think "what the hell have I missed?"
(quote snipped)Did the coppers use the V90? That'd be news to me.
The go to Volvo in my experience is the V70/S60 (S70 if we are going old school), or the 850 if people are willing to venture a generation back (I owned an 850 T5R for a year and it was excellent in every way).
What did you miss? Probably nothing, in the grand scheme of things, tis' a diverse market afterall. True, they are a comfortable, spacious, sensible and reliable car - that isn't something to set the fireworks off to though, especially with them being as cheap and anonymous they are in this day and age, against ever present German counterparts.
You'd be mad to discount it, though, they *ARE* excellent cars, no doubt about it.
SidewaysSi said:
E46 M3-Very dull and lacks any focus or feel
Audi R8-a 911 will always be better
All Minis-as above but replace '911' with 'Clio'
All Boxsters-as above but replace 'Clio' with 'Elise /Caterham'
Good list and comparisons, only i'd see it completely the other way round, lolAudi R8-a 911 will always be better
All Minis-as above but replace '911' with 'Clio'
All Boxsters-as above but replace 'Clio' with 'Elise /Caterham'
Squiggs said:
maxdb said:
TVR's - as much as I try and like them, they just don't do it for me. They just remind me of a kit car.
Can't believe I got to page 4 before they were mentioned .....!They may look the part but they're uncomfortable to sit in, uncomfortable on the ears, have badly fitting panels and are generally badly built in every other department.
Impasse said:
McLaren F1. It's ugly and the exaggerated claims of no compromise design grate somewhat.
When it was launched I didn't appreciate it either...yet now when you consider the weight that supercars are and all the stupid trick gearboxes they have and the added weight that comes with it and all the turbo`s and hybrid stuff that come with them also...I look at the F1 now and think its an amazing bit of kit and the future just isn't very bright for supercars for me.The future for supercars is fast for sure but involving I don't think so.
cerb4.5lee said:
Squiggs said:
maxdb said:
TVR's - as much as I try and like them, they just don't do it for me. They just remind me of a kit car.
Can't believe I got to page 4 before they were mentioned .....!They may look the part but they're uncomfortable to sit in, uncomfortable on the ears, have badly fitting panels and are generally badly built in every other department.
Squiggs said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Squiggs said:
maxdb said:
TVR's - as much as I try and like them, they just don't do it for me. They just remind me of a kit car.
Can't believe I got to page 4 before they were mentioned .....!They may look the part but they're uncomfortable to sit in, uncomfortable on the ears, have badly fitting panels and are generally badly built in every other department.
For me most cars nowadays are quiet and sedate and I miss cars that are a little different and make a nice noise that's all.
Depthhoar said:
279 said:
Mercedes Benz W124.
I'm sure they were an excellent car back in the day, but I don't get the fawning over them in 2015 with what else you can buy for the price of a good one.
They don't handle, aren't fast*, poorly equipped in most cases, aren't particularly good looking and I'll be brutally honest, the interior quality ain't that amazing, or rather my expectations had be built up so high before hand from comments on here that I was rather disappointed.
!* I'm talking about the ones you can actually buy for sensible money, before someone posts up the hammer.
Kind of see where you're coming from. I'm sure they were an excellent car back in the day, but I don't get the fawning over them in 2015 with what else you can buy for the price of a good one.
They don't handle, aren't fast*, poorly equipped in most cases, aren't particularly good looking and I'll be brutally honest, the interior quality ain't that amazing, or rather my expectations had be built up so high before hand from comments on here that I was rather disappointed.
!* I'm talking about the ones you can actually buy for sensible money, before someone posts up the hammer.
They were very good at what they did back in the day without fussy or aggressive styling (had a sort of simple, clean-cut elegance), plus they were durable and comparatively simple cars. They appeal to a certain demographic who remember Mercedes as a peerless manufacturer...engineers rather than accountants...and all the other time-worn cliches.
Yes, not fast and they don't handle especially well, but great cruisers with awesome long-distance capability. I've had 3 of them and can attest to the quality (or should I say durability) of the interior. Mine were trimmed in the hardest, most unyielding leather I ever come across, which appealed in a masochistic sort of way. (Actually, would have loved one with 'Hamburg taxi'-spec MBtex which has close to ballistic resisting properties!)
You're right they fetch good money nowadays, the sort of sums that may get you something faster, modern and digital. Everything in fact that the W124 is not. Which in part, I guess, explains its current appeal.
cerb4.5lee said:
Squiggs said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Squiggs said:
maxdb said:
TVR's - as much as I try and like them, they just don't do it for me. They just remind me of a kit car.
Can't believe I got to page 4 before they were mentioned .....!They may look the part but they're uncomfortable to sit in, uncomfortable on the ears, have badly fitting panels and are generally badly built in every other department.
For me most cars nowadays are quiet and sedate and I miss cars that are a little different and make a nice noise that's all.
dbdb said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Squiggs said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Squiggs said:
maxdb said:
TVR's - as much as I try and like them, they just don't do it for me. They just remind me of a kit car.
Can't believe I got to page 4 before they were mentioned .....!They may look the part but they're uncomfortable to sit in, uncomfortable on the ears, have badly fitting panels and are generally badly built in every other department.
For me most cars nowadays are quiet and sedate and I miss cars that are a little different and make a nice noise that's all.
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