A clown takes a pratfall

A clown takes a pratfall

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LocoCoco

1,428 posts

177 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Mave said:
Ghibli said:
So you don't get it either.
No. Because you still haven't answered the question. Responding with rhetorical questions is not answering the question. So let's try again.

What specifically is it about the cyclist's observable behaviour that makes him a selfish tt?
The 200 odd videos of altercations on the road?

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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heebeegeetee said:
Gaz. said:
My point exactly. Too busy being argumentative to see it though.

There's still pages and pages about cyclists, widths, gaps etc, which is completely missing the point imo. None of that is here nor there at all, imo.

The only thing worth talking about, once we've stopped laughing, is why is a lunatic allowed to drive?
Cool story bro.

f1nn

2,693 posts

193 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Amazing really. Two grown men, one just generally angry with life, and one a bit of a road captain, allowing what should have been a nothing incident, at most waved off with an acknowledgement of apology, allowing it to descend into that.

They were only a string of sausages and a crocodile away from a Punch and Judy show FFS.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Mave said:
No. Because you still haven't answered the question. Responding with rhetorical questions is not answering the question. So let's try again.

What specifically is it about the cyclist's observable behaviour that makes him a selfish tt?
I would say not paying attention to other road users.

It's also down to cyclists to read the road, there is two lanes enough for a cyclist and a car. If you don't want the hassle of a close pass make sure you don't get one when you hear a car behind.

I don't think the pass was that close, I know where the camera is mounted, his rear camera seems to be mounted further out as it no longer shows his back wheel. Whether this is to make car look like they closer I don't know.

I take it you have seen his YT channel ? He must spend half his life down the police station, I've not seen one of him being knocked of yet.

How much room should there have been on that road ?

Mave

8,209 posts

216 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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LocoCoco said:
The 200 odd videos of altercations on the road?
I'm assuming that the 405 driver didn't recognise him as the star of those videos when "planning" his overtake...

LocoCoco

1,428 posts

177 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Mave said:
LocoCoco said:
The 200 odd videos of altercations on the road?
I'm assuming that the 405 driver didn't recognise him as the star of those videos when "planning" his overtake...
Oh, you meant observable behaviour from the 405 driver's point of view at the time of the overtake. My bad.

LocoCoco

1,428 posts

177 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Mave said:
LocoCoco said:
The 200 odd videos of altercations on the road?
I'm assuming that the 405 driver didn't recognise him as the star of those videos when "planning" his overtake...
Oh, you meant observable behaviour from the 405 driver's point of view at the time of the overtake. My bad.

Mave

8,209 posts

216 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Ghibli said:
Mave said:
No. Because you still haven't answered the question. Responding with rhetorical questions is not answering the question. So let's try again.

What specifically is it about the cyclist's observable behaviour that makes him a selfish tt?
I would say not paying attention to other road users.
I don't think there's any observable evidence that he's not paying attention to other road users. He's cycling along in a straight line with sensible road positioning. That doesn't make him a selfish tt. Or is every other road user driving along in a straight line with sensible road positioning also a selfish tt?

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Mave said:
LocoCoco said:
The 200 odd videos of altercations on the road?
I'm assuming that the 405 driver didn't recognise him as the star of those videos when "planning" his overtake...
He could have a fan club in that area ?

http://youtu.be/aU-aTbF6Oy0

walm

10,609 posts

203 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Ghibli said:
If you don't want the hassle of a close pass make sure you don't get one when you hear a car behind.
Repeating this nonsense just makes you look even more ridiculous.

It is the job of the vehicle behind to make sure they leave enough room when they overtake.
Not the other way round.

Mave

8,209 posts

216 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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LocoCoco said:
Mave said:
LocoCoco said:
The 200 odd videos of altercations on the road?
I'm assuming that the 405 driver didn't recognise him as the star of those videos when "planning" his overtake...
Oh, you meant observable behaviour from the 405 driver's point of view at the time of the overtake. My bad.
Yep :-) his behaviour before the overtake that justifies branding him a selfish tt and therefore deserving of a close pass ;-)

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Mave said:
Ghibli said:
Mave said:
No. Because you still haven't answered the question. Responding with rhetorical questions is not answering the question. So let's try again.

What specifically is it about the cyclist's observable behaviour that makes him a selfish tt?
I would say not paying attention to other road users.
I don't think there's any observable evidence that he's not paying attention to other road users. He's cycling along in a straight line with sensible road positioning. That doesn't make him a selfish tt. Or is every other road user driving along in a straight line with sensible road positioning also a selfish tt?
I guess we can both agree that it wasn't a close overtake then ? Bearing in mind the road is wide enough for a cyclist and a car. Or are you saying the motorist wasn't close enough to the parked cars on the right.

LocoCoco

1,428 posts

177 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Mave said:
LocoCoco said:
Mave said:
LocoCoco said:
The 200 odd videos of altercations on the road?
I'm assuming that the 405 driver didn't recognise him as the star of those videos when "planning" his overtake...
Oh, you meant observable behaviour from the 405 driver's point of view at the time of the overtake. My bad.
Yep :-) his behaviour before the overtake that justifies branding him a selfish tt and therefore deserving of a close pass ;-)
I can't see anything.

:-) I'd say that selfish tts deserve a close pass or worse but nobody would be justified in doing so, two wrongs don't make a right.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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walm said:
Ghibli said:
If you don't want the hassle of a close pass make sure you don't get one when you hear a car behind.
Repeating this nonsense just makes you look even more ridiculous.

It is the job of the vehicle behind to make sure they leave enough room when they overtake.
Not the other way round.
Well I will stick to leaving room for cars to overtake me when I am cycling, it's worked well over the last 40 years. In that perticular case there were no obstacle ahead and made an easy road for an overtake.

I won't be taking advice from you.



anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Ghibli said:
Mave said:
Ghibli said:
Mave said:
No. Because you still haven't answered the question. Responding with rhetorical questions is not answering the question. So let's try again.

What specifically is it about the cyclist's observable behaviour that makes him a selfish tt?
I would say not paying attention to other road users.
I don't think there's any observable evidence that he's not paying attention to other road users. He's cycling along in a straight line with sensible road positioning. That doesn't make him a selfish tt. Or is every other road user driving along in a straight line with sensible road positioning also a selfish tt?
I guess we can both agree that it wasn't a close overtake then ? Bearing in mind the road is wide enough for a cyclist and a car. Or are you saying the motorist wasn't close enough to the parked cars on the right.
Maeve doesn't know. She's just guessing but as already pointed out by a few posters, it's difficult to judge the gap due to how the camera is mounted on the bike.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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St John Smythe said:
Maeve doesn't know. She's just guessing but as already pointed out by a few posters, it's difficult to judge the gap due to how the camera is mounted on the bike.
We do know the road is wide enough for a car and cyclist. I would say the end section before the junction isn't.


Mave

8,209 posts

216 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Ghibli said:
I guess we can both agree that it wasn't a close overtake then ? Bearing in mind the road is wide enough for a cyclist and a car. Or are you saying the motorist wasn't close enough to the parked cars on the right.
Nope, can't agree to that. I've referred to it a number of times as a close pass, so I think my opinion should be fairly clear.

What's not clear is why you won't explicity answer the question of what observable behaviour you think makes the cyclist a selfish tt before the overtake.

Mave

8,209 posts

216 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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St John Smythe said:
Maeve doesn't know. She's just guessing but as already pointed out by a few posters, it's difficult to judge the gap due to how the camera is mounted on the bike.
It's difficult to judge in absolute terms to a few cm. It's not difficult to judge that it's less than an acceptable distance especially when there's a known linear dimension to scale off.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Mave said:
St John Smythe said:
Maeve doesn't know. She's just guessing but as already pointed out by a few posters, it's difficult to judge the gap due to how the camera is mounted on the bike.
It's difficult to judge in absolute terms to a few cm. It's not difficult to judge that it's less than an acceptable distance especially when there's a known linear dimension to scale off.
Ok poppet smile

Mave

8,209 posts

216 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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St John Smythe said:
Ok poppet smile
Flirting doesn't strengthen your arguement :-*