RE: Bentley Bentayga - official

[KTF]

SirSquidalot said:

It will be to wind the watch.

Why would it not be plugged into the cars electrical system like every other clock?

I realise that I am not the target market but what are the people who buy them do, invite their friends to sit in the thing and watch it spin round as they drive along. "Hold on, my timepiece needs winding, check this out... it only cost me £150K."

[DonkeyApple]

sealtt said:

Who the hell would pay £100k for a Breitling, pathetic. And what is the relevance of the spinning? Is that to fill the power reserve - like a watch winder does? Surely there would be a far better and far less tacky solution for this.

The whole thing is just a low rent publicity stunt to grab a couple of headlines.

Well, it also has the upside of allowing owners to buy a £160k car that the general public will think is a £260k car because of the media headlines.

It's interesting that to try and get enough 'air' between it and the Rangie they've used a weird 'option'.

[DonkeyApple]

KTF said:

Why would it not be plugged into the cars electrical system like every other clock?

I realise that I am not the target market but what are the people who buy them do, invite their friends to sit in the thing and watch it spin round as they drive along. "Hold on, my timepiece needs winding, check this out... it only cost me £150K."

Won't it be worn in public in a Flava Flave style? Or whoever the chap was who used to wear his mum's kitchen clock round his neck so he knew when to be home for his tea. It was the American version of Normski.

I'm pretty sure that within seconds of availability the clock will be a necklace in a music video and give Bentley a load of free advertising. They've even chosen the specific brand to do this with as it obviously wouldn't work with a Patek or ine of the other real brands. It does seem rather clever.

[sorrel]

We have no taste....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/bentley/news/the-q...

[DonkeyApple]

sorrel said:

We have no taste....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/bentley/news/the-q...

Yes but I've offered my faecal waste at the next flush to the Pope instead of Thames Water. This makes my crap far superior to yours.

Whether the Pope reads the letter I sent or accepts my generous offer or has a scooby doo about what I am whittering on about is moot. My pooh is better than yours.

[KTF]

KTF said:

SirSquidalot said:

It will be to wind the watch.

Why would it not be plugged into the cars electrical system like every other clock?

I realise that I am not the target market but what are the people who buy them do, invite their friends to sit in the thing and watch it spin round as they drive along. "Hold on, my timepiece needs winding, check this out... it only cost me £150K."

The Telegraph article has answered my question:

"The timepiece spins on its axis every so often to wind itself up, so drawing no power from the car’s electrical system and fractionally saving fuel compared with a standard electric clock. "

Of course, its an energy saving feature. I wonder how many miles you would have to drive to recover the cost of the clock back in fuel savings. Quite a few I imagine.

[sealtt]

Yeah, great MPG boosting idea, well except for the energy required to spin the thing surely...!

DonkeyApple said:

Well, it also has the upside of allowing owners to buy a £160k car that the general public will think is a £260k car because of the media headlines.

It's interesting that to try and get enough 'air' between it and the Rangie they've used a weird 'option'.

I think it's a good idea actually. Stick on a really expensive option to prove that you really do need to be richer than your average FFRR owner to buy a Bentayga (after all, surely the price is going to be one of the big reasons for people buying one of these things!), but they got the execution all wrong.

First of all £100k+ is such a ridiculous amount, especially for a Breitling, that no-one will really take it seriously. Second, IT SAYS BREITLING ON THE FRONT!!! Not Patek, not Audemars Piguet, not even bloody ROLEX but Brietling... will anyone fall for this? I mean people who actually generate their own income as opposed to those living off oil well/family handouts.

[Atmospheric]

Fools and their money can be easily parted. So appropriate in this case.

Two words:

Range Rover. However you slice it, it will be better than this.


For the unaware:

Audi Q7, trimmed with a sumptuous interior and a boat anchor of an engine (and I love 12-cylinder cars) and 160k starting price
It may be able to do 300 clicks, but I am almost certain the lighter Q7 would with the W12 engine (even the Touareg for that matter, it's cousin).

Hilariously, they'll be a diesel engine variant, No doubt shared with the Q7.

Bentley could have done much better with this.

The FFRR, the F-Pace and the Cayenne are all more desirable than this. I honestly can't wait to laugh at the inflated servicing and parts cost.

I await the traditional PH configurator price revelation.

[DonkeyApple]

That's the thing though. How ever much you want to believe it, someone with £160k+ for a car isn't going to be a fool. They might not be a connoisseur of taste, but very few people are, they might not be car enthusiasts, again, few people are but the chances of them being fools is slim.

[EricE]

DonkeyApple said:

That's the thing though. How ever much you want to believe it, someone with £160k+ for a car isn't going to be a fool. They might not be a connoisseur of taste, but very few people are, they might not be car enthusiasts, again, few people are but the chances of them being fools is slim.

There are car buyers out there that will set out to buy the most expensive car in the segment just to make a statement. Most of them with arab oil money.
"Value" doesn't matter for these people, they just want the most expensive most exclusive item to show off.
A £100k clock is both very expensive and presumably very exclusive so it does the job. I can also think of a few other adjectives for this product but they would be far less kind.

[sealtt]

The thing about Bentley products is that EVERYONE knows they cost a lot, does everyone know that a well spec'd FFRR is 6-figures? Do people know that an S65 AMG costs over £180k? Surely not... hence, people who want to prove something will take a Bentley any day over a Range/Merc/etc regardless of which car is better, as it is far more effective at communicating to the outside world that they are 'rich'.

So long as Bentley keep on sticking big price tags on their products that's not likely to change. Though a diesel one could be interesting longer term, as it means that second hand it may becomes a semi-sensible purchase (financially), which none of their products currently are with the huge engines and equally big maintenance bills.

[sorrel]

So this car has been produced so people with more money than sense can show the world they are "rich".

What a sad world we live in...

[WCZ]

sorrel said:

So this car has been produced so people with more money than sense can show the world they are "rich".

What a sad world we live in...

the world has always been like this, it's human nature

[sorrel]

Maybe so, but it's still sad.

Funnily enough, the richest guy I know personally (owns a few petrol stations and shops) is also one of the most modest. He drives a C class estate and doesn't feel the need to flash his wealth to the world.

Some people still have some style.

[amg master]

Was just on the worldcarfans site and it said that the car can be specced up to £500k . You really would be crazy to pay £500k for that car. They also said that they have 3600 units on order.
Seems like people have more money than sense.

[amg master]

WCZ said:

sorrel said:

So this car has been produced so people with more money than sense can show the world they are "rich".

What a sad world we live in...

the world has always been like this, it's human nature

Is it human nature to show off,or is it that we have been told to act like this?

[amg master]

WCZ said:

sorrel said:

So this car has been produced so people with more money than sense can show the world they are "rich".

What a sad world we live in...

the world has always been like this, it's human nature

Is it human nature to show off,or is it that we have been told to act like this?

[DonkeyApple]

amg master said:

WCZ said:

sorrel said:

So this car has been produced so people with more money than sense can show the world they are "rich".

What a sad world we live in...

the world has always been like this, it's human nature

Is it human nature to show off,or is it that we have been told to act like this?

I suspect that you can go back to the dawn of mankind and find Dave who needed larger stone wheels on his cart to impress the ladies.

As blokes we are all competitive and this manifests itself in many ways. It is afterall why all societies have always regulated debt as people cannot control their basic need to to compete.

I do have to at that what I like about things like this Bentley is that it generally appals the type of people who enjoy touring English country estates and being close to landed folk, little realising that the people who built those houses were the brash, vulgar and nouveau punters of their age, showing off their wealth with ghastly and ostentatious displays of wealth.

Only time separates.

[amg master]

DonkeyApple said:

amg master said:

WCZ said:

sorrel said:

So this car has been produced so people with more money than sense can show the world they are "rich".

What a sad world we live in...

the world has always been like this, it's human nature

Is it human nature to show off,or is it that we have been told to act like this?

I suspect that you can go back to the dawn of mankind and find Dave who needed larger stone wheels on his cart to impress the ladies.

As blokes we are all competitive and this manifests itself in many ways. It is afterall why all societies have always regulated debt as people cannot control their basic need to to compete.

I do have to at that what I like about things like this Bentley is that it generally appals the type of people who enjoy touring English country estates and being close to landed folk, little realising that the people who built those houses were the brash, vulgar and nouveau punters of their age, showing off their wealth with ghastly and ostentatious displays of wealth.

Only time separates.

thats what I mean everything seems to be about impressing other people so that they might like you for what you have and not the person you are.what happened to people having class/style humbleness.

[RosscoPCole]

sorrel said:

So this car has been produced so people with more money than sense can show the world they are "rich".

What a sad world we live in...

This is why the roads are full of Audis, BMWs and Mercedes Benz instead of Fords and Vauxhalls. People are obsessed with brands and the image they are meant to portray. It is the same with clothing, mobile phones, baby buggies, whatever you care to mention. It is the consumer society we live in today.