RE: Honda S660 Mugen
Discussion
Fetchez la vache said:
It does make you wonder why the Kei car idea didn't catch on here with the people that make decisions for city drivers. If the city roads are crowded, simply make the cars bloody smaller! I'd rather that approach than the electro-car nonsense whose through-life environmental impact is way higher than a petrol.
Agreed! This is exactly what the world needs right now. Bring back the Suzuki Capaccino too!
I think these are fantastic, I love Kei cars and it's great to see Honda getting their mojo back 
(ps, they look great in yellow. http://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/honda/07-2dr/fi... )
(ps, they look great in yellow. http://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/honda/07-2dr/fi... )I had a Suzuki Cappuccino for a couple of years. It was incredible fun, handled like a dream and from a fuel consumption standpoint, very frugal. It was however a pain in the neck in terms of convenience. A miniature boot meant running with the roof off used up most of the available space and storage generally was low. So not ideal for touring..
Mechanically though it was easy to look after and cost me very little to run. I hope this Honda provides the same fun factor.
Mechanically though it was easy to look after and cost me very little to run. I hope this Honda provides the same fun factor.
sideways sid said:
Fetchez la vache said:
It does make you wonder why the Kei car idea didn't catch on here with the people that make decisions for city drivers. If the city roads are crowded, simply make the cars bloody smaller! I'd rather that approach than the electro-car nonsense whose through-life environmental impact is way higher than a petrol.
Agreed! This is exactly what the world needs right now. Bring back the Suzuki Capaccino too!
Fetchez la vache said:
It does make you wonder why the Kei car idea didn't catch on here with the people that make decisions for city drivers. If the city roads are crowded, simply make the cars bloody smaller! I'd rather that approach than the electro-car nonsense whose through-life environmental impact is way higher than a petrol.
Kei cars enjoy substantial tax breaks and much cheaper parking permits in Japan, hence the popularity over there.Love that the KEI principle has been kept alive!
I can understand why people see the £21k price tag ridiculous, Because I guess it is unless your some die-hard Mugen fiend or genuinely love the Mugen car. Mugen aero has always been marmite.
Although 12k for the base model I think is relatively good value, And looks are a bit more neutral, It also comes equipped with AD08R's from factory as well.
It was like the Mugen Civic RR, Cost nigh on 40k GBP.. I can't imagine the expect to sell an awful lot of these Mugen 660's.
I highly approve of the rear end, Looks great IMO.
I can understand why people see the £21k price tag ridiculous, Because I guess it is unless your some die-hard Mugen fiend or genuinely love the Mugen car. Mugen aero has always been marmite.
Although 12k for the base model I think is relatively good value, And looks are a bit more neutral, It also comes equipped with AD08R's from factory as well.
It was like the Mugen Civic RR, Cost nigh on 40k GBP.. I can't imagine the expect to sell an awful lot of these Mugen 660's.
I highly approve of the rear end, Looks great IMO.
Chuckles? This thing looks genuinely mint! Look at that rear view! I'd love one. This country really needs more Kei cars. As roads become more crowded and buyers look for more efficiency from their vehicle, wouldn't it make more sense to have everyone drive to work in a Kei car rather than sitting, one up, in an awful Insignia or 320d belching out diesel fumes as they wait in traffic?
This one has just flown up my lottery win list!
This one has just flown up my lottery win list!
Baryonyx said:
Chuckles? This thing looks genuinely mint! Look at that rear view! I'd love one. This country really needs more Kei cars. As roads become more crowded and buyers look for more efficiency from their vehicle, wouldn't it make more sense to have everyone drive to work in a Kei car rather than sitting, one up, in an awful Insignia or 320d belching out diesel fumes as they wait in traffic?
This one has just flown up my lottery win list!
Makes small roads feel big, and small speeds feel big. Living in south east England this seems so well suited to the roads/space/crowding here. Looks characterful, and I imagine sounds it too. Winner. This one has just flown up my lottery win list!
350Matt said:
I like this and it reminds me of my old Cappuccino
however the main issue with driving a car of this size on UK roads is other road users
when driving my Cappo every roundabout became a game of will they pull out on me or not?
Everyone and I mean everyone ( mums in people carriers) would look you right in the eye and accelerate into your path, even if I was doing 80mph across the roundabout
no-one takes you seriously, you must be slow because its so small kind of thinking...
it was that and the never ending rust that made me sell it
shame because it was an utter delight to drive
The Cappo was great, the few survivors still are.however the main issue with driving a car of this size on UK roads is other road users
when driving my Cappo every roundabout became a game of will they pull out on me or not?
Everyone and I mean everyone ( mums in people carriers) would look you right in the eye and accelerate into your path, even if I was doing 80mph across the roundabout
no-one takes you seriously, you must be slow because its so small kind of thinking...
it was that and the never ending rust that made me sell it
shame because it was an utter delight to drive
stuck between an Audi Q7 and a RangeRover though is no fun, unless you like to study rear diffs .
The Japanese government saw the car congestion problems early ( in time) and used tax rules to invent kei , Britain has probably left it too late to solve the problem.
Smart coupe owners will be sobbing at that 6 speed manual
In a world of bloat I want this to do well, with more bhp and more European styling I think it would.
Halo cars from Germany etc tend to be top models trickling downward. Honda with this, their side saddle bike engine car and the Civic R seem to be doing halo products from the bottom up. Which is refreshing.
Toyota need to do the same too. A classic high revving Jap cars from the past, pre VW diesel apocalypse -
just reduce that down to a smaller version to fit under the GT86....
In a world of bloat I want this to do well, with more bhp and more European styling I think it would.
Halo cars from Germany etc tend to be top models trickling downward. Honda with this, their side saddle bike engine car and the Civic R seem to be doing halo products from the bottom up. Which is refreshing.
Toyota need to do the same too. A classic high revving Jap cars from the past, pre VW diesel apocalypse -
just reduce that down to a smaller version to fit under the GT86....
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