RE: Audi RS4 (B5) Avant: PH Heroes
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I drove one of these 10 years ago and through it was a hilariously ballistic engine fitted to a crashingly inept chassis. I doubt time has improved it.
Interesting that now it's old enough that criticising won't irritate VAG and jeopardize advertising revenue and free jollies to car launches a journalist feels they can actually say what has been true all along: Audi A4 interiors are absolutely nothing special in terms of design or quality.
I'm sure the latest A4 is blah blah granite blah perfection blah soft touch ball bag rest and all the usual nonsense though...
Interesting that now it's old enough that criticising won't irritate VAG and jeopardize advertising revenue and free jollies to car launches a journalist feels they can actually say what has been true all along: Audi A4 interiors are absolutely nothing special in terms of design or quality.
I'm sure the latest A4 is blah blah granite blah perfection blah soft touch ball bag rest and all the usual nonsense though...
Edited by dme123 on Thursday 22 October 14:36
blade7 said:
Really fancied one of these for my daily around 3 years ago, did some research and had a bit of a reality check. Sub 20mpg and big bills when it went wrong made me decide buying and running one everyday wasn't practical for me. They seemed a bit fragile compared to the RS2 as well.
Only 1 or 2 mpg worse than the contemporary S4.dme123 said:
I drove one of these 10 years ago and through it was a hilariously ballistic engine fitted to a crashingly inept chassis. I doubt time has improved it.
Interesting that now it's old enough that criticising won't irritate VAG and jeopardize advertising revenue and free jollies to car launches a journalist feels they can actually say what has been true all along: Audi A4 interiors are absolutely nothing special in terms of design or quality.
I'm sure the latest A4 is blah blah granite blah perfection blah soft touch ball bag rest and all the usual nonsense though...
I think the quality of Audi interiors has got worse.Interesting that now it's old enough that criticising won't irritate VAG and jeopardize advertising revenue and free jollies to car launches a journalist feels they can actually say what has been true all along: Audi A4 interiors are absolutely nothing special in terms of design or quality.
I'm sure the latest A4 is blah blah granite blah perfection blah soft touch ball bag rest and all the usual nonsense though...
Edited by dme123 on Thursday 22 October 14:36
My RS4 and S4 from 2000 interiors felt much better put together than a later S3 I had for a (short) while.
Andy20vt said:
I think both cars are equally special, the RS2 because it was first and fettled by Porsche,
The Porsche link, and Mclaren F1 beating acceleration are only part of the RS2 legend. The other part is that the engine, which was the ultimate evolution of the 5 cylinder engine fitted to the legendary Quattro rally cars. The RS4 can't compete with that. This isn't to detract from the RS4, which is a great car in its own right. But the RS2 is truly an all time great.
Just back from Glasgow ( to Suffolk ) today!!! Having collected my 6th yes 6th B5 RS4.... Just turned 102k on arrival home and feels pretty damn good..... If you like the feeling of driving the car as opposed to the car driving you these old girls are about as much bang for your buck as you'll get!!!! Can be pricey to run but I've made money overall on my last 3......yes most of them out there need a bit of work but to me that's part of the enjoyment....
Searider still got my old nogaro S4 avant?? (RicR1)
Searider still got my old nogaro S4 avant?? (RicR1)
Haha, looks like a coach trip from audisrs.com has turned up!
It's great for UK driving where you're invariably at the back end of 5-6 cars nose-to-tail doing 45mph on an NSL A-road and need a massive dollop of mid-range torque to squirt past them all in one go. The B5 will dispatch them with ease and you'll still be within the speed limit pulling back in - the torque is that brutal. For me, its natural habitat is the autobahn - up to 60mph and it's a tad unforgiving. Once over 60 it's a different car and once into triple-figures it just makes ALL kinds of sense.
If you get one, upgrade the suspension to a Bilstein B12/ Pro kit and uprated ARB - it will transform it's only (albeit, minor) weak point.
It's great for UK driving where you're invariably at the back end of 5-6 cars nose-to-tail doing 45mph on an NSL A-road and need a massive dollop of mid-range torque to squirt past them all in one go. The B5 will dispatch them with ease and you'll still be within the speed limit pulling back in - the torque is that brutal. For me, its natural habitat is the autobahn - up to 60mph and it's a tad unforgiving. Once over 60 it's a different car and once into triple-figures it just makes ALL kinds of sense.
If you get one, upgrade the suspension to a Bilstein B12/ Pro kit and uprated ARB - it will transform it's only (albeit, minor) weak point.
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