Are these Vloggers just a scam? SOL or Shmee etc???????

[Shotaro]

I don't understand why some people don't like these videos but keep watching more, such as Chicken Guacamole Burrito, you didn't like TGE's revving video or SOL's fishing video, so just stop watching them. Time is finite so spend it doing/watching something you do enjoy and then you won't get wound up. YouTube gives people the platform to make pretty much whatever content they want, some you'll like, some you won't, just watch what the you like and ignore the rest

[El Guapo]

roystinho said:

Bayerische said:

Quickmoose said:

This Irish needs support and desrves every bit he's got so far. Damn near terrestrial TV quality production.
Really 1st class viewing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta7Yk8cW-TA

Thanks for the heads up on this guy ( George Karellas ). I have really enjoyed his videos.

I completely agree, His videos are better than most of the car shows on the Discovery channel

He deserves to be discovered by one of the big players and no doubt he will with his natural TV presenting talent.

Since this was posted up the other day I just watched all of his vids back to back. Brilliant little series, and as you say, needs to be picked up by someone really

Thanks for this, I have watched 4 of George's videos so far and they have been excellent.

[InitialDave]

Streetrod said:

I am just been reading the new Octane magazine which has just dropped through my door and have fallen upon an advert for Archie Hamilton's dads classic car business "Duncan Hamilton & Co Ltd". Now his dad has a couple of serious cars for sale, the first an ex Derek Bell 1976 Jag XJ12C Broadspeed and a rare 1964 Dodge Dart that has raced at the Goodwood Revival. Now these cars currently share a garage with his R8.

This has to be a perfect platform to raise himself above and beyond the normal vloggers, whilst at the same time promoting his dads business. Imagine he took these cars to Goodwood to film and demonstrate them. With his racing experience and not having to thrash them, he could produce a great video about the history of these cars and what they are like to drive. The noise would be enough to attract a huge number of likes.

If he did this his credibility would jump through the roof, or maybe his dad just does not want anything to do with his sons YouTube ramblings

Maybe it's just not his taste in cars? I mean, that would mean his taste in cars is one I'd disagree with, but still. Can understand people not making videos if the subject matter doesn't interest them.

Though MCM's latest video was great because it was entirely based on "we think this is bloody stupid and want nothing to do with it, but if we do, will you shut up about it?"

roystinho said:

Demonisation?

Demonetisation.

Youtube has had some wrangles with how their metrics assign adverts to videos, with advertisers being unimpressed that their products appear alongside "inappropriate" content (though the mechanism for what adverts people get are influenced by their own profile for what they go looking for), and it doesn't do brands any favours if you get promos about how to get your sheets white next to footage of a KKK rally or something.

So to try and avoid really pissing off companies, Youtube have taken steps over what videos get what adverts, and some people posting "controversial" stuff have seen a massive drop in income from advertising. Actually, they've also updated the dashboard so you can see if your videos have been flagged as "well, this probably isn't something all advertisers would be on board with". But they were a bit clumsy with how they did this, lack of communication to people, couple of missteps with trying to get people to voluntarily police/tag content (which would've been a complete mess in short order) and so on.

Anyway, I think most people doing car videos and the like are probably fairly safe, they're unlikely to be saying/doing things that would cause consternation (in that sense), and ultimately may actually benefit by being a solid/reliable bet for advert placement that won't attract trouble.

[jon-]

InitialDave said:

Demonetisation.

Anyway, I think most people doing car videos and the like are probably fairly safe, they're unlikely to be saying/doing things that would cause consternation (in that sense), and ultimately may actually benefit by being a solid/reliable bet for advert placement that won't attract trouble.

A good summary above, but some of the stuff I've been seeing, no one is safe.

Eg

http://i.imgur.com/8QXMhrP.png
http://i.imgur.com/HM33CAd.jpg

and I can't find it now, but someone made a video just with the letter A in it, the title was "letter A" and the description was the same, and that got it.

[br d]

Shmee said:

Not a single video of my >3,000 has been hit by this fortunately so it hasn't affected my channel at all. By keeping 'clean' in content has kept me out of trouble more than once before now as well as quite honestly being the right image I want to show.

Tim, off this topic but...
Does the 720S Stop/Start system default to on or off at ignition?

[Shmee]

br d said:

Tim, off this topic but...
Does the 720S Stop/Start system default to on or off at ignition?

I think it returns to 'on' at each startup, I don't believe it remembers the last setting like the Ferrari HELE system.

[BlackLabel]

camshafted said:

I thought Twitter and Facebook were bad, but JFC the comments beneath SOL's fishing video on YouTube take the biscuit.

Mum lines all over the place. Must be demoralising for Paul, Shmee, TGE etc having to read through that rubbish. Makes Mail Online commenters look like FT letter writers.

YT comments have always been brutal - I imagine you need the skin of a rhino to post a video up and then read all the comments.

[johnwilliams77]

This one is a bit weird
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP0QBlDDFJQ
He is promoting some game for about 20 secs at the start of the video. I wonder what that pays?

[camshafted]

BlackLabel said:

YT comments have always been brutal - I imagine you need the skin of a rhino to post a video up and then read all the comments.

It's not just the brutality, but the banality. Nothing original in the criticism or insults.

[anonymous-user]

It's an interesting time for YouTube - the live streaming has brought in a different angle to it, sometimes great, sometimes random. It'll be quite handy for some content. In terms of the content from the UK based guys & girls - overall I enjoy it, and there's some talented people involved. There's been some great stuff over the last 6 months, with a swing towards more classic stuff recently (never a bad thing in my book).

I was in the process of getting my channel up and running, not with the view of it becoming a career, but just for somewhere to throw racing content with the Vette - not much happening with that until next Easter though I expect. Sadly I wasn't allowed to feature the Aston in any videos, so will have to stick to 3000+ horsepower fibreglass crap

However...
One day, I shall wear expensive cashmere sweaters like Tim...
One day, I shall have a garage containing many cars, with many battery conditioners...
One day, I shall drive to MaccyD's in a DB5 just to order some chicken nuggets & fries (and BBQ sauce).

[br d]

Shmee said:

br d said:

Tim, off this topic but...
Does the 720S Stop/Start system default to on or off at ignition?

I think it returns to 'on' at each startup, I don't believe it remembers the last setting like the Ferrari HELE system.

Okay thanks.

[RSbandit]

Have to say STGs video with the vintage Ferrari from yesterday is top class ...great content brilliantly edited and great soundtrack as well ...whatever you think of these guys there is real talent on show sometimes

[twoblacklines]

Horsey McHorseface said:

I stopped watching SOL ages ago. He’d just financed himself to the hilt for a Lambo or some such, whilst still living at home with his Mum, and the only thing he could think of doing with it, in the next video, was to go to his local Macy D’s and order what the previous driver had ordered on the drive-through. That was the entire video. Definitely a banana short of a full milkshake, that one.

Edited by Horsey McHorseface on Friday 18th August 11:46

Same. I love the Huracan and might end up in one (think I am too tall sadly) if life keeps going like it is currently.

But I have not watched any of SOL's videos for the entirety that he owned his Huracan. And he got me watching all the others... because I wanted an R8 V8 manual coupe in silver since they released it.

I should probably correct this problem but his videos are so cringe, along with all the dear diary boring crap he vlogs, like when he used to spend a whole video in front of a nursing home or in the office of that car garage that fitted his exhaust.

TGE's video made me crack up recently "hes in the river" ha ha I just wish he would stop using bleep noises as my dog goes ballistic.

[twoblacklines]

InitialDave said:

Demonetisation.

Youtube has had some wrangles with how their metrics assign adverts to videos, with advertisers being unimpressed that their products appear alongside "inappropriate" content (though the mechanism for what adverts people get are influenced by their own profile for what they go looking for), and it doesn't do brands any favours if you get promos about how to get your sheets white next to footage of a KKK rally or something.

So to try and avoid really pissing off companies, Youtube have taken steps over what videos get what adverts, and some people posting "controversial" stuff have seen a massive drop in income from advertising. Actually, they've also updated the dashboard so you can see if your videos have been flagged as "well, this probably isn't something all advertisers would be on board with". But they were a bit clumsy with how they did this, lack of communication to people, couple of missteps with trying to get people to voluntarily police/tag content (which would've been a complete mess in short order) and so on.

Anyway, I think most people doing car videos and the like are probably fairly safe, they're unlikely to be saying/doing things that would cause consternation (in that sense), and ultimately may actually benefit by being a solid/reliable bet for advert placement that won't attract trouble.

I don't blame them. It is advertising psychology.

If you see Bold detergent ads next to racism videos enough, you subconsciously relate Bold detergent to something you don't like, and you subconsciously choose something else when in the supermarket. At least, this theory works the other way round, which is why Coca Cola spend billions a year advertising coke on platforms like TV even back in the 90's when people couldn't buy any right at that moment. But next time they were out and they saw Coke for sale, they subconsciously linked it with a happy moment....

If people didn't take shortcuts, didn't monetize from the back of negative but controversial content, they wouldn't have this problem. And now all these Youtubers who did have a quality problem - when they go back to creating their "mundane" content, their new subscribers won't be interested.

Unfortunatly Generation X are an entitled generation so even those smart enough to go out and do something, take shortcuts, because they want everything now. They don't see the long game.

[twoblacklines]

johnwilliams77 said:

This one is a bit weird
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP0QBlDDFJQ
He is promoting some game for about 20 secs at the start of the video. I wonder what that pays?

About £2.75 per signup.

[roystinho]

RSbandit said:

Have to say STGs video with the vintage Ferrari from yesterday is top class ...great content brilliantly edited and great soundtrack as well ...whatever you think of these guys there is real talent on show sometimes

Completely agree. More of this please

[jon-]

Tim,

Have you done the math on skippable vs non-skippable ads? EG uplift in income vs increase in abandoment?

It's lovely your channel is still allowing skipping, where as a number of the others aren't.

I don't monetize my channel so can't do the test myself.

[Shmee]

jon- said:

Tim,

Have you done the math on skippable vs non-skippable ads? EG uplift in income vs increase in abandoment?

It's lovely your channel is still allowing skipping, where as a number of the others aren't.

I don't monetize my channel so can't do the test myself.

To be honest, I'm not aware that's actually an option that you can change. I believe it feeds the best advert chosen by the algorithms at the time regardless of whether it's skippable or fixed.

[BlackLabel]

johnwilliams77 said:

This one is a bit weird
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP0QBlDDFJQ
He is promoting some game for about 20 secs at the start of the video. I wonder what that pays?

Bloody hell Yianni is almost at 1m subscribers - he's come a long way in only 3 years.

[jon-]

Shmee said:

jon- said:

Tim,

Have you done the math on skippable vs non-skippable ads? EG uplift in income vs increase in abandoment?

It's lovely your channel is still allowing skipping, where as a number of the others aren't.

I don't monetize my channel so can't do the test myself.

To be honest, I'm not aware that's actually an option that you can change. I believe it feeds the best advert chosen by the algorithms at the time regardless of whether it's skippable or fixed.

I've not seen the options, but this would indicate it's a publisher choice, or at least you have to specifically allow them.

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/188038?h...

"Enabling this ad format across your videos can lead to lower video views and watch time."