Are these Vloggers just a scam? SOL or Shmee etc???????

Are these Vloggers just a scam? SOL or Shmee etc???????

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Fckitdriveon

1,039 posts

91 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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johnwilliams77 said:
Fckitdriveon said:
With the exception of a couple of Vloggers it’s all abit cringe isn’t it. That said it must be very hard to create original content constantly when you ve spent all the money on the car, hence the drive thru videos presumably.

TGEs latest Range Rover offering was st in the extreme, half of what he talked about as being specific to that car was just standard autobiography spec. Trimmed steering wheel and a bigger bumper with DRLs . That’s not been done before has it.

As for the AVs collection video, was it the school holidays?! He ll be on Operation Yewtrees radar before long.
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On the other hand: Harry’s latest Range Rover video actually told you stuff with is informative. i.e I don’t want the running costs of a Bentley!
As a Range Rover owner It was easy to pick apart the bullst.

I enjoyed Harry’s video on the Svr (iirc).

Interested in a bentaga though I must confess.

johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

104 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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InitialDave said:
Yes, I have to say, I put a lot more weight in Harry's opinions than I would a lot of Youtubers.
I had a look at TGEs comments too and he responds to every ‘hater’ by ‘where’s your lambo m8’. Quite amusing in that he sees that as having ‘made it’. Yes he has more money than me, but I’d rather be me than him!

Fckitdriveon

1,039 posts

91 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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InitialDave said:
Fckitdriveon said:
It was more a slight on our PC culture than how it may have first appeared. Look again Dave sometimes things aren’t what they seem.
Fair enough if it was from that angle, but people have made such comments before.
With my sarcastic ‘wit’ and your snap judgments we could make a powerful alliance dave. ; )

Fckitdriveon

1,039 posts

91 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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johnwilliams77 said:
InitialDave said:
Yes, I have to say, I put a lot more weight in Harry's opinions than I would a lot of Youtubers.
I had a look at TGEs comments too and he responds to every ‘hater’ by ‘where’s your lambo m8’. Quite amusing in that he sees that as having ‘made it’. Yes he has more money than me, but I’d rather be me than him!
That’s half funny to be fair. Someone will probably back hand him at some point though which will obviously be funnier.

Edited by Fckitdriveon on Thursday 23 November 10:56

_dobbo_

14,385 posts

249 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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johnwilliams77 said:
I had a look at TGEs comments too and he responds to every ‘hater’ by ‘where’s your lambo m8’. Quite amusing in that he sees that as having ‘made it’. Yes he has more money than me, but I’d rather be me than him!
"I'd rather be me than him" would have a lot more weight if you weren't watching his videos, commenting on them here, and then commenting on his comments on those videos. For the amount you seem to dislike him you do pay a lot of attention to what he says and does.

Just sayin.


InitialDave

11,927 posts

120 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Fckitdriveon said:
With my sarcastic ‘wit’ and your snap judgments we could make a powerful alliance dave. ; )
Didn't exactly come across well, though.

Fckitdriveon said:
That’s half funny to be fair. Someone will probably back hand him at some point though which will obviously be funnier.
"Which one?"

jon-

16,511 posts

217 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Why are we comparing TGE TV to Harry's garage?

Isn't that like comparing Casey Neistat's travel vlogs to the blue planet?

Totally different shows. Just because they're both based around cars doesn't mean they're after the same audience.

I'd suggest very few of TGE's audience watch Harry, and vice versa. I expect that has to do with the average ages of the audiences (and this thread).

limpsfield

5,887 posts

254 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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99dndd said:
Dandanfings said:
camshafted said:
Brutal review of the YouTube vlogger generation on the back of the I'm A Sleb contestant.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2017/11/22/jack-mayn...

One plus for the car vloggers though:

"The YouTubers with a specialism - the gamers, fashionistas, beauty experts, chefs and fitness trainers - can at least justify their existence by offering a service. The self-styled “content creators”, “digital ambassadors” and “influencers” who rely solely on confessional material and ker-ay-zee personalities might soon find that personality wearing thin."
excellent read, thanks smile
I'll +1 that. The good thing for car youtubers is that there's always a new car out to review.
Thanks for this - really well-written piece.

"Is this a generational divide? Are these the grumpy grumblings of a middle-aged man who just doesn’t “get it”? That’s doubtless what these vloggers’ devoted fans would argue. Yet there’s a swelling tide of opinion that they’re vain, inane and taking the mick for clicks. "

AyBee

10,536 posts

203 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Horsey McHorseface said:
national said:
Beefmeister said:
Anyway, I see Seb has got a new long term test car - a Kia Stinger GT-S.
It seems his lotus is still for sale 3 months on, he needs something to drive back and fourth between his parents house and his parents other house, he needs a lesson in selling cars from TGE.
I watched this last w/end: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIdug5IkkaQ TGE ‘really really struggled to sell’ the 720S, then sells it to a private guy who then makes a very quick profit selling it to a dealer? How does that happen? TGE is no Terry Tibbs.
Ermm, was it not on sale or return at the dealer? i.e. the guy he sold it to didn't make a quick profit, he put it up for sale at a price which would, if it had sold, made him a big profit.

dannyDC2

7,543 posts

169 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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InitialDave said:
johnwilliams77 said:
On the other hand: Harry’s latest Range Rover video actually told you stuff with is informative. i.e I don’t want the running costs of a Bentley!
Yes, I have to say, I put a lot more weight in Harry's opinions than I would a lot of Youtubers.
Harrys L322 buyers guide was excellent. Really enjoying his channel at the moment.

egor110

16,879 posts

204 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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@ DannyDC2 what i'd like to see on your channel would be something like you did with that mr2 but comparison of fwd hot hatches ( because nobody else does anything with fwd)

Maybe a clio 182 , civic and maybe a puma chucked in and then just compare there stength's/weakness .

downhillmalins

149 posts

147 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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egor110 said:
@ DannyDC2 what i'd like to see on your channel would be something like you did with that mr2 but comparison of fwd hot hatches ( because nobody else does anything with fwd)

Maybe a clio 182 , civic and maybe a puma chucked in and then just compare there stength's/weakness .
Happy to offer up our Clio 172 Cup for said comparison - there are plenty of vids featuring it on our channel (Guys That Drive) if you want immediate fwd gratification

egor110

16,879 posts

204 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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downhillmalins said:
egor110 said:
@ DannyDC2 what i'd like to see on your channel would be something like you did with that mr2 but comparison of fwd hot hatches ( because nobody else does anything with fwd)

Maybe a clio 182 , civic and maybe a puma chucked in and then just compare there stength's/weakness .
Happy to offer up our Clio 172 Cup for said comparison - there are plenty of vids featuring it on our channel (Guys That Drive) if you want immediate fwd gratification
I'd love to see if / how much off the pace the puma would be compared to the cup/civic bearing in mind the price difference.

Fckitdriveon

1,039 posts

91 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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InitialDave said:
Fckitdriveon said:
With my sarcastic ‘wit’ and your snap judgments we could make a powerful alliance dave. ; )
Didn't exactly come across well, though.

Fckitdriveon said:
That’s half funny to be fair. Someone will probably back hand him at some point though which will obviously be funnier.
"Which one?"
Your attitude is making me rethink our alliance...

It may not have come across well, if you’re 2 dimensional and unable to compute satire.....or at least the appreciation something that you may not fully understand could be happening.

Maybe it’s you Dave .......


Edited by Fckitdriveon on Thursday 23 November 12:14

dannyDC2

7,543 posts

169 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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egor110 said:
@ DannyDC2 what i'd like to see on your channel would be something like you did with that mr2 but comparison of fwd hot hatches ( because nobody else does anything with fwd)

Maybe a clio 182 , civic and maybe a puma chucked in and then just compare there stength's/weakness .
Are you referring to the MR2 vs S2000 video? I had fun making that, but didn't really have fun editing/uploading it. Driving cars fast on the road whilst filming yourself isn't very wise IMO, I have a bad feeling its going to catch up with me one day.

I see loads of YouTubers doing it, Matt Farrah's channel is basically just that, but maybe they can get away with it over there. One of my pals at work knows someone who had their house raided by the police for video evidence relating to them uploading motorcycle runs to YouTube. They were lairy, and a life was lost which sprung the investigation, but still, it's worrying.

You could say, just do it on track then, but that would be an expensive day out if we're comparing say 3 cars. Wouldn't be able to do it justice myself. Fifth Gear have a production team and funding from advertisers, I have 2 GoPros, a camera, and a 5 year old Macbook.

For reference, the MR2 vs S2000 video took a few hours to make, probably 6 or so to edit, and has pulled 31k views. $88 is the estimated revenue. Wouldn't even cover one of the cars to get there.



Edited by dannyDC2 on Thursday 23 November 12:25

Davey S2

13,097 posts

255 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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e30m3Mark said:
Devastated. I was so looking forward to him taking it to a drive thru. frown
Fear not. A new vid of an exhaust battle between his Aventador and Archie Nice But Dim's purple R8 is now up on Youtube*

  • no I didn't watch it before anyone asks.






InitialDave

11,927 posts

120 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Fckitdriveon said:
Your attitude is making me rethink our alliance...

It may not have come across well, if you’re 2 dimensional and unable to compute satire.....or at least the appreciation something that you may not fully understand could be happening.

Maybe it’s you Dave .......
Given the stuff we see people come out with in this thread, you really don't see how what you wrote might not be taken to mean what you intended?

Quickmoose

4,495 posts

124 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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I see Matt Farah is hanging up his one-take series... frown

I watch Harry and Savage Geese for technical/review/mature car stuff
STG and JWW for well made popcorn
and SOUP for general entertainment

oh and I'm 45 and talk of old grumpy bloles 'not-getting' the lifestyle car flippin' vlog doesn't apply tongue out

InitialDave

11,927 posts

120 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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dannyDC2 said:
Are you referring to the MR2 vs S2000 video? I had fun making that, but didn't really have fun editing/uploading it.
This.
dannyDC2 said:
Driving cars fast on the road whilst filming yourself isn't very wise IMO
And that.

GreatGranny

9,128 posts

227 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Danny, I'm an old fart (52) and watch only a few Youtubers including you, Adam and Car Throttle (and Lee Lockwood for a laugh, it's my guilty secret).

Your latest one with you just working on the Audi was excellent. Not into drifting but still watch and also your track days.

Have you seen there's a no timing ban at the Nurburg? You can't mention times or have timing equipment.

Misha Charoudin has done a pretty comprehensive video on it.

And bin Facebook and create new account just for 'real' friends!


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