Are these Vloggers just a scam? SOL or Shmee etc???????

[Shmee]

egor110 said:

Because the vloggers need new different cars otherwise people get bored and stop watching.

To an extent yes but I'm pretty sure the sweet spot would be more like once per year rather than constant chopping and changing.

[e30m3Mark]

You'd think people would be more interested in seeing them actually do something with these cars, other than cretinous ''rev battles'' or taking to a drive-thru? How about a road trip down to Wales, or spanking that Lambo you're borrowed, sorry bought, around Brands Hatch? No, we get to see it wrapped in cling film instead. There's nowt so queer as folk.

[Ari]

Shnozz said:

dannyDC2 said:

For reference, the MR2 vs S2000 video took a few hours to make, probably 6 or so to edit, and has pulled 31k views. $88 is the estimated revenue. Wouldn't even cover one of the cars to get there.

The last sentence should be expanded into a youtube video in itself and shown to all aspiring 16 year old groupies that want their own "channel". Straight through the smoke and mirrors and the B/S spouted by so many of these youtube guys about how they started XYZ when they were 12 in their bedroom and have multiple other businesses that they just don't feel like talking about right now etc etc.

The idea that all youtube roads are paved with gold should be dispelled from the minds of these kids.

Woah, wait, what? A youtube video with 31,000 views only earns $88?

I thought all these guys were claiming to run multiple Ferraris and Bentleys from their youtube earnings?

[Shmee]

Ari said:

Woah, wait, what? A youtube video with 31,000 views only earns $88?

I thought all these guys were claiming to run multiple Ferraris and Bentleys from their youtube earnings?

I don't think anybody outside of Paul, Sam and I are claiming to run their cars from their social media earnings (note, not just YouTube).

[Ari]

egor110 said:

S11Steve said:

egor110 said:

does anyone care if they actually own the cars ?

surely the viewer just want's to see new shiny , who owns it doesn't matter.

When they are claiming that they are all self made by "playing the markets", or investing in property, when in reality they have hit the short lived peak of being a binary trading affiliate or had a lucky viral video, it's somewhat disingenuous at best.

So what , i watch to see shiny cars i'll never own.

I don't care if you pretend to be a businessman whilst actually living off mummy/daddy just show make videos.

If i want to watch somebody real then there's danny dc2 or monkey london .

I think a lot of (perhaps very naive) people watch these videos for the 'lifestyle', believing that there is a living to be made and they could be the next one jetting first class around the world and buying Lamborghinis just as soon as their youtube channel takes off - 'Whaaaaats up guys!' etc

Nice to dream I guess, but a little unfair if it's simply not true.

[dannyDC2]

Ari said:

Shnozz said:

dannyDC2 said:

For reference, the MR2 vs S2000 video took a few hours to make, probably 6 or so to edit, and has pulled 31k views. $88 is the estimated revenue. Wouldn't even cover one of the cars to get there.

The last sentence should be expanded into a youtube video in itself and shown to all aspiring 16 year old groupies that want their own "channel". Straight through the smoke and mirrors and the B/S spouted by so many of these youtube guys about how they started XYZ when they were 12 in their bedroom and have multiple other businesses that they just don't feel like talking about right now etc etc.

The idea that all youtube roads are paved with gold should be dispelled from the minds of these kids.

Woah, wait, what? A youtube video with 31,000 views only earns $88?

I thought all these guys were claiming to run multiple Ferraris and Bentleys from their youtube earnings?

It varies on engagement of the adverts (people accidentally clicking them), and what devices the views come from. Plus other factors I imagine. I wouldn't want it to be my sole income as it's pretty unstable, I can only imagine how stressful it would be to convert into being a "full time" YouTuber!

[CooperS]

e30m3Mark said:

You'd think people would be more interested in seeing them actually do something with these cars, other than cretinous ''rev battles'' or taking to a drive-thru? How about a road trip down to Wales, or spanking that Lambo you're borrowed, sorry bought, around Brands Hatch? No, we get to see it wrapped in cling film instead. There's nowt so queer as folk.

However the reality is the majority of viewers probably don't aspire to drive through quality roads and enjoy the countryside nor can many relate. What they all can do however is know what driving through a Maccys is like and wonder / dream what sort of looks they'd get if they had a lambo... Know the audience

[Craig_89]

So The Sun has basically just revealed that TGE doesn't "buy" his cars, they are given to him for a short period for exposure on social media and paid accordingly. No wonder he changes cars so often.

[ghost83]

Craig_89 said:

So The Sun has basically just revealed that TGE doesn't "buy" his cars, they are given to him for a short period for exposure on social media and paid accordingly. No wonder he changes cars so often.

If that's true then that's hilarious!

[jon-]

ghost83 said:

Craig_89 said:

So The Sun has basically just revealed that TGE doesn't "buy" his cars, they are given to him for a short period for exposure on social media and paid accordingly. No wonder he changes cars so often.

If that's true then that's hilarious!

Read the article, it certainly didn't reveal that to me.

"Brands get in touch with Tom and let him loan new releases and custom-made models. He is paid to share videos and photos on his channels."

He's made it clear the Rangie he has is a loan, it's also custom. This is just like any other loan car automotive journalists get.

If you think someone like Lambo are lending him vehicles you're well off the mark.

You know Tom, it's all smoke and mirrors in aid of solid PR, he does a great job.

Biggest revelation of the article is that he has a gf.

[Beefmeister]

jon- said:

Read the article, it certainly didn't reveal that to me.

"Brands get in touch with Tom and let him loan new releases and custom-made models. He is paid to share videos and photos on his channels."

He's made it clear the Rangie he has is a loan, it's also custom. This is just like any other loan car automotive journalists get.

If you think someone like Lambo are lending him vehicles you're well off the mark.

You know Tom, it's all smoke and mirrors in aid of solid PR, he does a great job.

Biggest revelation of the article is that he has a gf.

Exactly. Plus I'm well aware that Tom isn't happy with how the article was written at all. Plus all the glaringly obvious factual car errors!


Re: the gf, I don't think he went to the Maldives by himself...

[S11Steve]

Beefmeister said:

Exactly. Plus I'm well aware that Tom isn't happy with how the article was written at all. Plus all the glaringly obvious factual car errors!

It's The Sun... lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas. But I still would have thought if it was a PR exercise, somebody at TGE Towers would have proofread it.

[ashleyman]

They can't even spell McLaren so I doubt the article has been properly fact checked and proof read!

[BlackLabel]

jon- said:

ghost83 said:

Craig_89 said:

So The Sun has basically just revealed that TGE doesn't "buy" his cars, they are given to him for a short period for exposure on social media and paid accordingly. No wonder he changes cars so often.

If that's true then that's hilarious!

Read the article, it certainly didn't reveal that to me.

"Brands get in touch with Tom and let him loan new releases and custom-made models. He is paid to share videos and photos on his channels."

He's made it clear the Rangie he has is a loan, it's also custom. This is just like any other loan car automotive journalists get.

If you think someone like Lambo are lending him vehicles you're well off the mark.

You know Tom, it's all smoke and mirrors in aid of solid PR, he does a great job.

Biggest revelation of the article is that he has a gf.

article said:

He’s also tried out a £250,000 custom-built Lamborghini Aventador, a Porsche GT3 RS and a BMW M4 DTM.

'Tried out' the M4 and GT3 RS is a strange way of describing a car that you own. But then again it is the Sun and looking at the rest of that piece a GCSE English student would probably do a better job of writing it.

Also £8k/month from just 80,000 subscribers? If true that's impressive.

[andrewparker]

S11Steve said:

Beefmeister said:

Exactly. Plus I'm well aware that Tom isn't happy with how the article was written at all. Plus all the glaringly obvious factual car errors!

It's The Sun... lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas. But I still would have thought if it was a PR exercise, somebody at TGE Towers would have proofread it.

I work with PR agencies on a regular basis, and honestly, very often you just don’t get an opportunity, particularly when the gutter press are involved.

[Craig_89]

BlackLabel said:

article said:

He’s also tried out a £250,000 custom-built Lamborghini Aventador, a Porsche GT3 RS and a BMW M4 DTM.

'Tried out' the M4 and GT3 RS is a strange way of describing a car that you own. But then again it is the Sun and looking at the rest of that piece a GCSE English student would probably do a better job of writing it.

Also £8k/month from just 80,000 subscribers? If true that's impressive.

This was the part my post was aimed at, 3 cars mentioned in the article were given to him to try out yet he tells us he bought them and then sold/will sell pretty soon.

It might be The Sun and a poor article but they surely would have taken facts such as those from TGE himself. Shame really as I enjoy TGE's videos but it does give a false view to those that follow him.

[Japveesix]

Craig_89 said:

BlackLabel said:

article said:

He’s also tried out a £250,000 custom-built Lamborghini Aventador, a Porsche GT3 RS and a BMW M4 DTM.

'Tried out' the M4 and GT3 RS is a strange way of describing a car that you own. But then again it is the Sun and looking at the rest of that piece a GCSE English student would probably do a better job of writing it.

Also £8k/month from just 80,000 subscribers? If true that's impressive.

This was the part my post was aimed at, 3 cars mentioned in the article were given to him to try out yet he tells us he bought them and then sold/will sell pretty soon.

It might be The Sun and a poor article but they surely would have taken facts such as those from TGE himself. Shame really as I enjoy TGE's videos but it does give a false view to those that follow him.

I think people are reading far too much into a badly written and fairly uninformative Sun article. They probably didn't eve talk to Tom about those particular cars and simply scanned his youtube channel and picked the car names randomly from those regularly mentioned on it without any research into whether he owned them etc,

[bluemason]

BlackLabel said:

'Tried out' the M4 and GT3 RS is a strange way of describing a car that you own. But then again it is the Sun and looking at the rest of that piece a GCSE English student would probably do a better job of writing it.

Also £8k/month from just 80,000 subscribers? If true that's impressive.

Could be from just his business ventures or just a random cheeky estimate as you need to gaining millions of views on a monthly basis and be having over 250k subscribers to be making thousands of pounds per month.
And when you start to generate tens of millions of views per month with consistent likes per month for years on a consistent basis is when you do have the potential to earn well over 10k a month
Hence in why youtubers start to sell books and t shirts when they start to gain a large cult following to make more revenue

Edited by bluemason on Thursday 30th November 19:09

[georgefreeman918]

Shmee said:

egor110 said:

Because the vloggers need new different cars otherwise people get bored and stop watching.

To an extent yes but I'm pretty sure the sweet spot would be more like once per year rather than constant chopping and changing.

Shmee, out of all the automotive you tubers, you seem to be the only one who uses their cars to the extent that they are meant to, and what I would be doing in your position.

You do swap and change, but at least they are driven, and not just used for posing in London and then flipping with a very small number of miles.

Taking your McLaren 675lt on track at Spa must be a dream! No others seem to be doing this.

For that I take my hat off to you.

[egor110]

georgefreeman918 said:

Shmee said:

egor110 said:

Because the vloggers need new different cars otherwise people get bored and stop watching.

To an extent yes but I'm pretty sure the sweet spot would be more like once per year rather than constant chopping and changing.

Shmee, out of all the automotive you tubers, you seem to be the only one who uses their cars to the extent that they are meant to, and what I would be doing in your position.

You do swap and change, but at least they are driven, and not just used for posing in London and then flipping with a very small number of miles.

Taking your McLaren 675lt on track at Spa must be a dream! No others seem to be doing this.

For that I take my hat off to you.

And the seen thru glass bloke , don't forget he got his ferrari then took it over Italy and back for a drive.