RE: Shed Of The Week: Jaguar S-Type 4.2
Discussion
jamieduff1981 said:
abitlikefiennes said:
EggsBenedict said:
Weren't these build on some Yank Ford underpinnings? Lincoln Town Car? Dunno.
Mondeo I think? I'll ask my father-in-law. He's owned a fair few Jags but struggles to find anything nice to say about these.The S-Type started life using Lincoln LS floor pan and some suspension and steering components as well as either the Ford 5R55N auto box, Ford manual gearbox (both V6s) or ZF 5 speed for 4.0 V8s. This was the 1999 model. It drove like crap though, so it received an extensive mechanical re-engineering for 2002 onwards with virtually no parts compatibility between <2002 and >2002, let alone >2002 and Lincoln LS. Post 2002 S-Types also received a completely redesigned interior.
Even the V6s were only Ford short blocks. The heads used the Mazda castings from the Duratec V6 family but machined to Jaguar specifications. Amongst chances to Ford spec V6s the Jaguar ones had different valve port geometry, introduced inlet cam variable valve timing, dumped the hydraulic lifters in favour of direct acting mechanical buckets (solid tappets) and had new manifolds designed. That's why the Jaguar V6s have far healthier torque and power curves compared to Ford V6s of the same capacity. They were built in Ford's engine plants alongside the Ford engines however, which is Ford enough for the misinformed - despite the Jag V6s producing more power than contemporary BMW I6s of the same capacity.
johnxjsc1985 said:
How many people who comment on this car have driven one? just curious.
Long term owner of a non-knackered one.In my experience lots of people have an opinion about the car overall based solely upon what they think it looks like. They see "old man", assume it wobbles about on jelly suspension and steers like a ship based upon this, then they fabricate "an uncle" who used to have one upon which their imaginary driving experience is derived.
They do look old-manish. They will corner with any E39 5-series though, and do so with a superior ride quality.
pSyCoSiS said:
Totally agree - some really pointless and unjustified comments within these forums!
Most XJs (apart from the 350 and latest model) suit wearing the leaper on the bonnet. And that has never detracted me from buying one or judging the previous owner...
I hope you declare it as a modification to your insurance company. People who fit them obviously don't give a st about pedestrian safety. It's sort of understandable on series XJ and XJS cars as many dealers fitted them as an option but there is no excuse on anything newer. Certainly not on XK's and F-Types.Most XJs (apart from the 350 and latest model) suit wearing the leaper on the bonnet. And that has never detracted me from buying one or judging the previous owner...
johnxjsc1985 said:
How many people who comment on this car have driven one? just curious.
I drove one in the US, it was alright really, but now, the image is a bit iffy, it has the sort of cheesy aspects of older Jags without the redeeming features like a massive Supercharged V8 and being massiveJ4CKO said:
I drove one in the US, it was alright really, but now, the image is a bit iffy, it has the sort of cheesy aspects of older Jags without the redeeming features like a massive Supercharged V8 and being massive
Come on J4CKO who gives a toss about image? Oh that's right, almost everyone on PH.I like this and would love a supercharged one. They have definitely improved with age.
I like it, it fits shed of the week perfectly, 4.2ltr V8, auto, rwd, full leather etc and chances are with being a 1 owner car and that sort of mileage, its either done lots of trips to the golf course or motorway miles, either way, that engine can take it, as can the gearbox and for less than a grand... if I wasnt getting a dog this weekend I would buy this (oh and no dog jokes either please )
Pickled Piper said:
It was only ever "OK" at best. Remember the competition was the E39 BMW 5 Series.
So giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming you have driven both of these types personally for any distance, objectively in which ways was the E39 5-series better, and by how much?plasticpig said:
pSyCoSiS said:
Totally agree - some really pointless and unjustified comments within these forums!
Most XJs (apart from the 350 and latest model) suit wearing the leaper on the bonnet. And that has never detracted me from buying one or judging the previous owner...
I hope you declare it as a modification to your insurance company. People who fit them obviously don't give a st about pedestrian safety. It's sort of understandable on series XJ and XJS cars as many dealers fitted them as an option but there is no excuse on anything newer. Certainly not on XK's and F-Types.Most XJs (apart from the 350 and latest model) suit wearing the leaper on the bonnet. And that has never detracted me from buying one or judging the previous owner...
Totally agree, I think the leapers should be reserved to only the XJS, XJ up to X308 and anything older. Not an S Type, X Type, XK, etc.
All IMHO, of course!
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