The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread Vol II

The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread Vol II

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apotts

254 posts

208 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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jamei303 said:
Ped is being an arse. The requirement is for the cyclist to give way, not to stop. If the ped had kept going the cyclist would have simply passed behind them. The ped is of course entitled to suddenly change direction on the crossing, but it's a bit of s trick. I bet the ped wouldn't have tried that with a car.
Is that how ped crossings work? I must be out of date. There were peds going in both directions, and you are claiming that it's fine for vehicles to weave and swerve across the ped crossing, at a fair old speed too?

Or did you not see the ped going from left to right as well?

PoleDriver

28,651 posts

195 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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I love the way all the other cyclists offered their support!

Fish

3,976 posts

283 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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jamei303 said:
Ped is being an arse. The requirement is for the cyclist to give way, not to stop. If the ped had kept going the cyclist would have simply passed behind them. The ped is of course entitled to suddenly change direction on the crossing, but it's a bit of s trick. I bet the ped wouldn't have tried that with a car.
You are supposed to stop and give way to pedestrians while they are on the crossing. The Cyclist should not cross until the pedestrian steps onto the pavement. The cyclist is a prat and is ignoring the crossing..

Bluedot

3,598 posts

108 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Fish said:
jamei303 said:
Ped is being an arse. The requirement is for the cyclist to give way, not to stop. If the ped had kept going the cyclist would have simply passed behind them. The ped is of course entitled to suddenly change direction on the crossing, but it's a bit of s trick. I bet the ped wouldn't have tried that with a car.
You are supposed to stop and give way to pedestrians while they are on the crossing. The Cyclist should not cross until the pedestrian steps onto the pavement. The cyclist is a prat and is ignoring the crossing..
Whilst this is 100% true and I'm normally the one to jump on cyclists for the slightest misdemeanor. I think in this case there needs to be some common sense, it's a busy road and a busy crossing. Priority should always be 100% with the pedestrians but you do feel that if the cyclists had to stop for every pedestrian crossing (or looking to cross) and waiting till they were on the pavement then nothing would move.
Whilst I don't condone cycling past someone at speed coming within a whisker of them is a wise thing to do, I don't really have a problem with them slowing down and cycling through when there is a suitable gap.


Dark85

665 posts

149 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Bennet said:
It may be more difficult than you think, since that wasn't a merge in the sense we'd usually use that word.

I'd have let him in as well, but there was never really a gap there. The van driver should have held back when it became clear what was happening. It's interesting to me that he, and you, it would seem, think he had a right to that space.
I done thunk it was a merge point boxedin. It's still good manners to let him in though, I'll go with "when two cocks meet" in this case.



jamei303 said:
Ped is being an arse. The requirement is for the cyclist to give way, not to stop. If the ped had kept going the cyclist would have simply passed behind them. The ped is of course entitled to suddenly change direction on the crossing, but it's a bit of s trick. I bet the ped wouldn't have tried that with a car.
I was always taught to stop if there are pedestrians anywhere on a zebra crossing, even if they were clearly on the other side of the road and walking away, although when there is an island in the middle, as here, you can treat the them as two separate crossings. Still there was not one but two peds on that crossing and the cyclist should absolutely have stopped. If you were crossing a road and a soon as you had passed the edge of a car they sped off, would you be impressed?

Now, whether the ped should have gone out of their way to start a confrontation is highly debatable - but cyclists lack of respect for red lights and particularly pedestrian crossings in London is a genuine problem and I can why someone could be frustated enough to do something like this.




Krikkit

26,566 posts

182 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Bluedot said:
Fish said:
jamei303 said:
Ped is being an arse. The requirement is for the cyclist to give way, not to stop. If the ped had kept going the cyclist would have simply passed behind them. The ped is of course entitled to suddenly change direction on the crossing, but it's a bit of s trick. I bet the ped wouldn't have tried that with a car.
You are supposed to stop and give way to pedestrians while they are on the crossing. The Cyclist should not cross until the pedestrian steps onto the pavement. The cyclist is a prat and is ignoring the crossing..
Whilst this is 100% true and I'm normally the one to jump on cyclists for the slightest misdemeanor. I think in this case there needs to be some common sense, it's a busy road and a busy crossing. Priority should always be 100% with the pedestrians but you do feel that if the cyclists had to stop for every pedestrian crossing (or looking to cross) and waiting till they were on the pavement then nothing would move.
Whilst I don't condone cycling past someone at speed coming within a whisker of them is a wise thing to do, I don't really have a problem with them slowing down and cycling through when there is a suitable gap.
I think if the cyclist was more than an arm's length away from any ped it wouldn't be an issue, but he's within a step's width of that chap, who could stop/switch direction without any indication.

Bluedot

3,598 posts

108 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Krikkit said:
Bluedot said:
Fish said:
jamei303 said:
Ped is being an arse. The requirement is for the cyclist to give way, not to stop. If the ped had kept going the cyclist would have simply passed behind them. The ped is of course entitled to suddenly change direction on the crossing, but it's a bit of s trick. I bet the ped wouldn't have tried that with a car.
You are supposed to stop and give way to pedestrians while they are on the crossing. The Cyclist should not cross until the pedestrian steps onto the pavement. The cyclist is a prat and is ignoring the crossing..
Whilst this is 100% true and I'm normally the one to jump on cyclists for the slightest misdemeanor. I think in this case there needs to be some common sense, it's a busy road and a busy crossing. Priority should always be 100% with the pedestrians but you do feel that if the cyclists had to stop for every pedestrian crossing (or looking to cross) and waiting till they were on the pavement then nothing would move.
Whilst I don't condone cycling past someone at speed coming within a whisker of them is a wise thing to do, I don't really have a problem with them slowing down and cycling through when there is a suitable gap.
I think if the cyclist was more than an arm's length away from any ped it wouldn't be an issue, but he's within a step's width of that chap, who could stop/switch direction without any indication.
Agreed. This cyclist was being an arse.
I was more pointing out that if there is a suitable gap for cyclists then as long as they slow down and take care then a bit of common sense can be applied.


jamei303

3,005 posts

157 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Fish said:
You are supposed to stop and give way to pedestrians while they are on the crossing. The Cyclist should not cross until the pedestrian steps onto the pavement. The cyclist is a prat and is ignoring the crossing..
There is no requirement to stop, only to give way to pedestrians actually on the crossing. In a car giving way is likely to mean stopping, but for a bicycle stopping may not be necessary.

jamei303

3,005 posts

157 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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The Zebra, Pelican and Puffin Pedestrian Crossings Regulations and General Directions 1997:

25.—(1) Every pedestrian, if he is on the carriageway within the limits of a Zebra crossing, which is not for the time being controlled by a constable in uniform or traffic warden, before any part of a vehicle has entered those limits, shall have precedence within those limits over that vehicle and the driver of the vehicle shall accord such precedence to any such pedestrian.
Pedestrians not to delay on crossings

but also:

19. No pedestrian shall remain on the carriageway within the limits of a crossing longer than is necessary for that pedestrian to pass over the crossing with reasonable despatch.

Ped is in the wrong

R11ysf

1,936 posts

183 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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jamei303 said:
The Zebra, Pelican and Puffin Pedestrian Crossings Regulations and General Directions 1997:

25.—(1) Every pedestrian, if he is on the carriageway within the limits of a Zebra crossing, which is not for the time being controlled by a constable in uniform or traffic warden, before any part of a vehicle has entered those limits, shall have precedence within those limits over that vehicle and the driver of the vehicle shall accord such precedence to any such pedestrian.
Pedestrians not to delay on crossings

but also:

19. No pedestrian shall remain on the carriageway within the limits of a crossing longer than is necessary for that pedestrian to pass over the crossing with reasonable despatch.

Ped is in the wrong
I guess you are a cyclist then??

Would you be thinking exactly the same if that was a motorbike?

Vipers

32,913 posts

229 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Doh........... I wonder why those cyclists are stopped at that crossing, oh someone is crossing, Ill just zip past them, oh dear I am a wker.

Bloody scroat.

And I will give the pedestrian 1 out of 10 for not looking.



smile

Edited by Vipers on Friday 30th September 10:18

Some Gump

12,717 posts

187 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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why are people talking about "peds"? It makes you sound like mentallists.

Bloke on bike is a knob. Walker is a knob. Cyclist was a knob first (also FPKW), so he gets mrore of the blame, maybe 65:35. Both would have had better days if they weren't cocks.

Europa1

10,923 posts

189 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Some Gump said:
why are people talking about "peds"? It makes you sound like mentallists.

Bloke on bike is a knob. Walker is a knob. Cyclist was a knob first (also FPKW), so he gets mrore of the blame, maybe 65:35. Both would have had better days if they weren't cocks.
Agreed. The pedestrian was merely a bit of a stroker, whereas the cyclist was a world class onanist. Presumably if the cyclist had demonstrated some common sense and courtesy he would have risked beating his PB on Strava...

Also agree about referring to "peds".

Janesy B

2,625 posts

187 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Some Gump said:
why are people talking about "peds"? It makes you sound like mentallists.

Bloke on bike is a knob. Walker is a knob. Cyclist was a knob first (also FPKW), so he gets mrore of the blame, maybe 65:35. Both would have had better days if they weren't cocks.
Probably happens all the time and it was just this lycra clad bellend in particular that bore the brunt of the bloke's frustrations. Happened all the time when I was working in Holborn, was half tempted to kick them off and teach them a lesson but I am not a complete knob, just a partial one.

ashleyman

6,992 posts

100 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Janesy B said:
Probably happens all the time and it was just this lycra clad bellend in particular that bore the brunt of the bloke's frustrations. Happened all the time when I was working in Holborn, was half tempted to kick them off and teach them a lesson but I am not a complete knob, just a partial one.
I got hit by cycle rider in Oxford Circus one day by exactly the same thing that happened in the video posted. He just rode into my leg and fell off. He was a probably bit of a pussy though as he just got back up and rode off rather than giving it the verbal. I had to walk around for the rest of the day with people asking me why I had a rubber tyre mark on my leg.

Edited by ashleyman on Friday 30th September 11:54

Cfnteabag

1,195 posts

197 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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imdeman87 said:
Undertaker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7Vqwh7sD-A

Edited by imdeman87 on Thursday 29th September 22:43
Looks more like a Paramedic Ambulance and I don't think you would get a body in the Fiesta although it is black

😜

mattlad

261 posts

166 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Talking of cyclists..... @3:41

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mgIYGbM4QI#t=221.578167

Ha ha ha!

Edited by mattlad on Friday 30th September 12:56


Edited by mattlad on Friday 30th September 12:57

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

187 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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mattlad said:
Talking of cyclists..... @3:41

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mgIYGbM4QI#t=221.578167

Ha ha ha!
For some reason your link doesn't work:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mgIYGbM4QI#t=221....

I presume the cyclist was all ready to blame the driver when he stopped...


mattlad

261 posts

166 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Johnnytheboy said:
mattlad said:
Talking of cyclists..... @3:41

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mgIYGbM4QI#t=221.578167

Ha ha ha!
For some reason your link doesn't work:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mgIYGbM4QI#t=221....

I presume the cyclist was all ready to blame the driver when he stopped...
Seem to be struggling with the link for some reason, but at 3:41 the coach blows its horn and the cyclist, who I assume has started to pull out falls over!

Edited to say your link seems to work......

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

187 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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mattlad said:
Seem to be struggling with the link for some reason, but at 3:41 the coach blows its horn and the cyclist, who I assume has started to pull out falls over!
Ah, being at work I had it on silent.
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