RE: Ford Focus RS: Review
Discussion
Fastdruid said:
Er you do know Ford are in no way connected to GM? That's a totally different company.
If Ford wanted a "performance" longitudinal engine there was always the V6 3.5 Ecoboost (320-380hp and 600hp in the new Ford GT).
Pardon the slip of the tongue, I meant Ford America - and I had a picture of a 90's GMC truck in my head as I was typing! If Ford wanted a "performance" longitudinal engine there was always the V6 3.5 Ecoboost (320-380hp and 600hp in the new Ford GT).
murphy968 said:
Down the years I have been a real enthusiast of the RS Fords, owning a few and wanting many others. I think it's a shame that the legacy of this marque is diminished by this car. I'm sure it's a great car and excellent VFM, but IMHO Ford should keep the RS badge for real homologation cars or at least those intended for competition. This is clearly designed as a fast road car for the family man.
The days of the homologation special are dead.WRC no longer represents anything you can use on the road and touring cars are much even further away from road cars now than they were in the 80's/90's... and it was a stretch for WRC/touring cars then. Racing categories that require any form of homologation are a thing of the past. The only reason race cars have a similar outline to road cars is so that they can convince the gullible to buy a Hyundai i20 some day.
So, what for the RS badge? A pale pastiche of a "sporting" Fiesta, á la "Citroën C4 by Sébastien Loeb"? Far better to see it used on something like this than the sort of travesties that PSA Group have been wasting their WRC heritage on.
The lack of soft touch plastics really annoys me. I went in to a London department store recently and all the wardrobes and beds were made of hard to touch wood, the Mont Blanc fountain pens were all cold and dard, and don't get me started on the Swiss watches, so uncomfortable to have metal against your skin.
havoc said:
Axionknight said:
Terror Factor said:
Good stuff, very interesting car imo, and I'm not much for new stuff generally speaking 
As for the 4wd, how does an EVO do it? they also have a transverse engine, and don't seem to have much problems doing impressive drifts!
http://www.lancerregister.com/faq/G04/g04.htmlAs for the 4wd, how does an EVO do it? they also have a transverse engine, and don't seem to have much problems doing impressive drifts!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Yaw_Control
Like so.
I like these, a lot. I'd take one in grey - being as useless as I am I've been threatening to buy another car for some time now but never taken the plunge as it were, I got close with the Civic Type R until I saw the criminal finance deals. I think I'll give the Ford dealer a call later and see what the crack is.
http://www.evo.co.uk/ford/focus-rs
On a different level to the golf, amg, etc. according to this. Now imagine it with a mountune mp or mr pack. Ok, sound generator is a little sad but pull the fuse. I think this is the car we hoped for, or as close as it's possible to get at this price.
On a different level to the golf, amg, etc. according to this. Now imagine it with a mountune mp or mr pack. Ok, sound generator is a little sad but pull the fuse. I think this is the car we hoped for, or as close as it's possible to get at this price.
After_Shock said:
The piped noise through speakers will be an irritation, can it be de-activated?
Waiting to see what price they will be where I live, if its sensible im ordering, if its not then will get something else.
It's barely noticeable in the Fiesta ST during normal driving IMO, my girlfriend has a Fiesta ST2 and it's only really noticeable when you're pressing on to be honest. It can be disabled, yes, the tubing/pipe can be removed and both open ends blanked off.Waiting to see what price they will be where I live, if its sensible im ordering, if its not then will get something else.
From what I've read it seems to be a great all rounder with a bit of fun factor added into the mix, it seems that Ford deliberately left the hardcore stuff to Renault/Honda/Seat. Yes the cabin may not be as well appointed as a Golf but at £35,000 fully loaded it counters with price & fun also it's not as blingy as the R imo.
The fake noise is a sad reflection of the times but a fuse cures that I'd leave the pipe open though for when the mountune induction kit is added along with the non warranty affecting remap that'll add 40-50bhp.
The fake noise is a sad reflection of the times but a fuse cures that I'd leave the pipe open though for when the mountune induction kit is added along with the non warranty affecting remap that'll add 40-50bhp.
1599Kg seems high.
If more effort had gone into weight saving then not so much power would be required.
Drifting on a public road is illegal as deemed not to be in full control of the vehicle. if caught by boys in blue then expect dangerous driving charge.
So can only be used on private land as track day organisers don't allow drifting either. What a waste of development time.
lack of under steer is welcome though.
If more effort had gone into weight saving then not so much power would be required.
Drifting on a public road is illegal as deemed not to be in full control of the vehicle. if caught by boys in blue then expect dangerous driving charge.
So can only be used on private land as track day organisers don't allow drifting either. What a waste of development time.
lack of under steer is welcome though.
Bright Halo said:
1599Kg seems high.
If more effort had gone into weight saving then not so much power would be required.
Are there any contemporary 4 wheel drive hatches of comparable size, class and cost as the focus that are notably lighter?If more effort had gone into weight saving then not so much power would be required.
Stiffening the body comes at a weight penalty, likewise the 4wd components are hardly lightweight. I don't think you could reasonably expect carbon or aluminium components for the price of the focus considering what else you get. Besides, if the car corners, accelerates and brakes well the weight is irrelevant unless you care about fuel costs. And if you're considering this car I doubt fuel is of huge concern.
Bright Halo said:
1599Kg seems high.
If more effort had gone into weight saving then not so much power would be required.
Drifting on a public road is illegal as deemed not to be in full control of the vehicle. if caught by boys in blue then expect dangerous driving charge.
So can only be used on private land as track day organisers don't allow drifting either. What a waste of development time.
lack of under steer is welcome though.
I guarantee there is a handful of idiots that have bought the car on the strength of the button aloneIf more effort had gone into weight saving then not so much power would be required.
Drifting on a public road is illegal as deemed not to be in full control of the vehicle. if caught by boys in blue then expect dangerous driving charge.
So can only be used on private land as track day organisers don't allow drifting either. What a waste of development time.
lack of under steer is welcome though.
Axionknight said:
It's barely noticeable in the Fiesta ST during normal driving IMO, my girlfriend has a Fiesta ST2 and it's only really noticeable when you're pressing on to be honest. It can be disabled, yes, the tubing/pipe can be removed and both open ends blanked off.
Isn't the Fiesta ST just a resonator pipe though? (the same as fitted in the last generation Focus ST, current Megane RS, Clio RS ect.). That's a bit different to a synthetic sound being fed through the speakers. Unless Ford have specifically allowed for it to be turned on, I'm quite sure it won't be as simple as removing a fuse (look at the trouble M3/M4 owners have had trying to disable theirs).Adam Ansel said:
One reason for the weight is that the bodyshell is different to that of the standard Focus, with quite a lot of extra strengthening.
Compared to the Mustang it is not only the twin scroll turbo. The Focus RS also has different, Cosworth designed, cylinder heads.
And cylinder liners and induction system according to the bloke I spoke to who was part of the 'RS team' at a Ford dealer recently.Compared to the Mustang it is not only the twin scroll turbo. The Focus RS also has different, Cosworth designed, cylinder heads.
That makes it a bit cooler in itself (to me)
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