RE: New Land Rover Discovery spy shots

RE: New Land Rover Discovery spy shots

Monday 25th January 2016

New Land Rover Discovery spy shots

Discovery Sport not Land Rover enough for you? Looks like there's a proper one coming too



Of its type the new Discovery Sport is a smart, practical compact SUV and one with just enough Land Rover in it to qualify for the badge. But compared with the 'proper' Discovery 4 perhaps not quite the car it once was. Fear not though because the Sport is just the first member of a new Discovery range to bridge the gap between style statement Evoque and more senior Sport and Range Rover. The subtleties of branding mean the Land Rover badge underlines its intended role as a more functional, practical range, leaving Range Rover products as the 'statement' vehicles.

Discovery silhouette familiar here
Discovery silhouette familiar here
Enough marketing talk. Here we have a large, angular 4x4 more in keeping with the Discovery lineage we already know. Heavily disguised or not it's clearly got the Land Rover/Range Rover corporate front end but from there the flat sides, chunky C-pillar and conventional square back are all much more in keeping with Discovery tradition. No stepped roof this time and it's hard to see whether the trademark rear skylights/extended rear windows have been maintained but it's obvious enough this will be a much more practical vehicle than the existing Sport or more style-led Range Rovers.

Without any other vehicles around to offer a sense of scale it's hard to tell quite how big this Discovery is. But going by the placement of the spare wheel and exhausts surrounding it we'll take a punt on it sharing architecture with the aluminium Range Rover Sport - those rear wishbones look to have JLR's signature integral link format too. Its combination of clever packaging and ability to independently tune lateral and longitudinal compliance should mean the engineers can give the car its own character and avoid the sense it's simply a generic platform-based product.

Aluminium should save plenty of weight
Aluminium should save plenty of weight
Those aluminium Range Rover underpinnings will help address the Discovery 4's reputation for being a bit on the hefty side, its belt and braces combination of unitary construction AND a ladder frame chassis giving it proper Land Rover cred but leaving the scales creaking. Considering they took nearly half a tonne out of the Range Rover Sport in the switch to aluminium you'd have to hope for at least that - maybe more - for the Discovery. Will this harm the car's 'proper 4x4' credentials? Perhaps a tad but the benefits in on-road performance, economy and emissions are impossible to ignore. Engines will likely be diesel-focused, with the inevitable hybridisation at some stage to follow.  

We like a Range Rover on PH but there are plenty who find them a little too brash; if that's you but you want a full-size, British built SUV and true successor to the Discovery crown it looks like you won't have long to wait.

Search for a Land Rover Discovery in the PH classifieds here.



   
   

[Photos: S. Baldauf/SB-Medien]

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silentbrown

Original Poster:

8,844 posts

116 months

Monday 25th January 2016
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Pretty sure I saw one of these in fancy dress heading up the M40 past Gaydon last Monday...

Cotic

469 posts

152 months

Monday 25th January 2016
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I'm sure this'll be fine, and the current Disco is showing its age after 12 years. However, I suspect that we'll lose the excellent split tailgate, and that reduction in weight may also see a potential reduction in towing capacity.

As long as it retains the low-range box, luggage capacity and excellent ride then I imagine most owners will be happy with a quicker and more economical RR Sport-based replacement.

garyjpaterson

137 posts

102 months

Monday 25th January 2016
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It says no stepped roof, though I reckon there is, its just the writer fell for the disguise! Looks subtly though, much like the Disco 3.

I think this will be a very good looking car, proportions look spot on; front axle looks pushed forward, with a small front overhang, and long rear, just as a Dicso should.

I expect it'll be very very similar to the Concept shown a while back, same styling elements as the Sport just on a proper package.

threespires

4,295 posts

211 months

Monday 25th January 2016
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This is Pistonheads, not Farmers Weekly -

surveyor

17,836 posts

184 months

Monday 25th January 2016
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Cotic said:
I'm sure this'll be fine, and the current Disco is showing its age after 12 years. However, I suspect that we'll lose the excellent split tailgate, and that reduction in weight may also see a potential reduction in towing capacity.

As long as it retains the low-range box, luggage capacity and excellent ride then I imagine most owners will be happy with a quicker and more economical RR Sport-based replacement.
Suspect not

Split tailgate is due to height of vehicle, as short people would not be able to reach to close a non-split one.

Cotic

469 posts

152 months

Monday 25th January 2016
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threespires said:
This is Pistonheads, not Farmers Weekly -
It's not MumsNet either, despite the mysterious love for the Skoda Yeti.

Cotic

469 posts

152 months

Monday 25th January 2016
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surveyor said:
Suspect not

Split tailgate is due to height of vehicle, as short people would not be able to reach to close a non-split one.
Surely the upper part of the tailgate is at the same height when open, whether it's split or not? The new one will almost certainly have a powered tailgate anyway.

DoctorX

7,291 posts

167 months

Monday 25th January 2016
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garyjpaterson said:
It says no stepped roof, though I reckon there is, its just the writer fell for the disguise! Looks subtly though, much like the Disco 3.

I think this will be a very good looking car, proportions look spot on; front axle looks pushed forward, with a small front overhang, and long rear, just as a Dicso should.

I expect it'll be very very similar to the Concept shown a while back, same styling elements as the Sport just on a proper package.
Agreed, if you compare these photos with the Vision concept, there doesn't appear to be much difference (apart from the rear doors opening in the normal fashion). Nice enough I suppose but I think the Disco 3/4 is a superb, distinctive design and its a shame that's been lost.

SrMoreno

546 posts

146 months

Monday 25th January 2016
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Cotic said:
Surely the upper part of the tailgate is at the same height when open, whether it's split or not? The new one will almost certainly have a powered tailgate anyway.
Surely it's split to stop the tailgate projecting halfway across the space behind in the car-park?

Andy S15

399 posts

127 months

Monday 25th January 2016
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Roof line is still quite obviously stepped, it's just hidden by the camo lining up with the top of the roof rails.

Cotic

469 posts

152 months

Monday 25th January 2016
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SrMoreno said:
Surely it's split to stop the tailgate projecting halfway across the space behind in the car-park?
It's one of the benefits, I suppose; and that issue is far worse on a flat-back car like the Disco, compared to the rake-backed RR Sport. However, I use mine as a seat, and it's great to be able to open the top section of a heavily loaded boot without everything falling out.

A.J.M

7,915 posts

186 months

Monday 25th January 2016
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It has to keep the split tailgate.
It's a great feature. Perfect for a seat, a nappy change bed, place for the dog to stand to get dried off.
You can open the top, keep the bottom closed and it makes a decent weather breaker.

Step in roof is to help the stadium seating where each row is slightly higher than the row in front.

Weight loss will be great as its a heavy bugger and does show itself in mud and sand.

Engines should be the 3.0 v6, 8 speed auto box.

They need to watch the size of the brakes as that effects wheel and tyre size.
The market for off road tyres in 20 inch and above is very poor.
Even for 19s, it's not exactly superb so I've had to pick one that does most things.

The off road market uses 18s. Which isn't available from the factory on a D4 so they need to use aftermarket wheels or spacers and D3 wheels.

It will be a great car but they have to keep it with the ability to be modified for off road use with roof racks, etc.
They are imho losing touch with that side in the chase of easy cash.

oldtimer2

728 posts

133 months

Monday 25th January 2016
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My guess is it will look like a Discovery Sport "on steroids" as someone put it to me a while back. So it will probably share similar proportions, but on a bigger scale, with curved rather than angular corners. I do not see why towing capacity would be reduced - the current Range Rover and Range Rover Sport are rated at 3500kg maximum towing capacity; the new Discovery should be no different.

oldtimer2

728 posts

133 months

Monday 25th January 2016
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Cotic said:
Surely the upper part of the tailgate is at the same height when open, whether it's split or not? The new one will almost certainly have a powered tailgate anyway.
You can set the tailgate height to suit yourself - low or high - so that you can reach it easily on the latest JLR products.

MDMA .

8,901 posts

101 months

Monday 25th January 2016
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not sure whats new about this ? pictures have been doing the rounds for the last 3 months

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/spy-shots/land-rover/...


matt5791

381 posts

126 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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Obviously hard to see at this stage, but it looks like style is compromising luggage capacity to me - the sides are more angled inwards, as is the tail.

I really hope not - one of my big problems with BMW X5/Audi Q7/Grand Cherokee/RR sport/VW Touarag etc etc is they all have very little interior space vis à vis the size and weight of the vehicle.

On the tailgate - personally - I prefer a full size lifting tailgate, but with the facility to open the top half of it too - this way you get a decent sized "roof" in the rain, but you can open the top too for quick access.

Edited by matt5791 on Tuesday 26th January 06:28

loudlashadjuster

5,130 posts

184 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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MDMA . said:
not sure whats new about this ? pictures have been doing the rounds for the last 3 months

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/spy-shots/land-rover/...
PH gotta PH wink

supercampeao

211 posts

167 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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Would be a real shame if they lose spit tailgate. I don't think the top section of the new RRS boot now opens (as the old one did) which is a shame. Either that or I just could not find the button...

Konan

1,840 posts

146 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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Cotic said:
threespires said:
This is Pistonheads, not Farmers Weekly -
It's not MumsNet either, despite the mysterious love for the Skoda Yeti.
I'd quite like to be taken on a trip through the Carpathians too wink

Sixpackpert

4,560 posts

214 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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loudlashadjuster said:
MDMA . said:
not sure whats new about this ? pictures have been doing the rounds for the last 3 months

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/spy-shots/land-rover/...
PH gotta PH wink
And discussed here...
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...