Stupid things non petrolheads say... Vol 2

Stupid things non petrolheads say... Vol 2

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Zetec-S

5,874 posts

93 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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Just had someone tell me their new company car, a Kia Sportage, is basically a Korean Audi wobble

bumskins

1,369 posts

15 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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This person was even good enough to write it down on an eBay advert rofl

"*RARE TO MARKET – UNIQUE ACQUISITION* Unrivalled collector example – 1/27 Global | 1/10 RHD | 8/10 UK | BMW M5 E60 Competition Edition was built to celebrate the 25th anniversary of BMW M Cars."

Yep lovely car, but that'll be to celebrate the 25th anniversary of the BMW M5 model, given BMW Motorsport was over 30 years old by the time this matte grey version came to market. Honestly, selling a car and not even bothering to read up to get the correct information, absolute mouth breather.

M1C

1,833 posts

111 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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Zetec-S said:
Just had someone tell me their new company car, a Kia Sportage, is basically a Korean Audi wobble
Well....it is...? Probably better than an Audi now, too!

Speed addicted

5,574 posts

227 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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Zetec-S said:
Just had someone tell me their new company car, a Kia Sportage, is basically a Korean Audi wobble
In a good way or a bad way?

RizzoTheRat

25,165 posts

192 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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Zetec-S said:
Just had someone tell me their new company car, a Kia Sportage, is basically a Korean Audi wobble
Well it's a Hyundai Tucson with a different body/interior and a higher price tag isn't it? So maybe not that silly a comparison biggrin

ChemicalChaos

10,393 posts

160 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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Not so much a non-petrolhead, as my dad does know and about cars and understands mechanical stuff.

But....

My folks live in a very rural area with some particularly punishing roads. They've lived there for nearly 15 years. In that time, my dad has been through two BMWs which both came with M-Sport suspension and veneer tyres. Unsurprisingly, both of them were regularly in the tyre shop for new rubber due to getting sidewall eggs from pothole damage. Every single time, I'd remind him that he went ahead and picked those cars from the dealer's forecourt stock knowing what the roads were like, and point to my then-current RR/Jeep/Ranger/Hilux whose donut tyres all got hammered over the same roads daily with no issue.

2 months ago he went to buy his latest car, a new XC60. These come as standard with a pretty sensible profile tyre on, I think, 19" wheels.
When I saw the car for the first time, he commented "doesnt it look great on those R-design wheels? They're 22 inch!"

Yesterday, with a handful of miles on the car, he was in the tyre shop again having two of those eye-wateringly expensive 265/35s replaced due to sidewall eggs.

You can lead a horse to water.......

Alex_225

6,263 posts

201 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Car goes up for sale on a FB Merc group. It's a nice enough example but it's a 17 year old 170k on the clock and over double what it's actually worth.

Then all the comments come in,

'Epic engine. Will be a classic!'. It's a diesel.

'Price of an old Merc depends on the condition. If it's as good a claimed it's worth every penny of the asking price!'. Erm, well no you can't just pluck a figure out of the air and say, 'it's really tidy so I'll just sell it for this much'.

I suppose I'm expecting too much, it is Facebook after all.

Jakg

3,463 posts

168 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Alex_225 said:
Car goes up for sale on a FB Merc group. It's a nice enough example but it's a 17 year old 170k on the clock and over double what it's actually worth.
It's in an owners group, what do you expect? Every one always talked up the values.

Typically the car is also considered a "classic" it it's sub-£5k and the owner demographic is also... "classic".

Alex_225

6,263 posts

201 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Jakg said:
Alex_225 said:
Car goes up for sale on a FB Merc group. It's a nice enough example but it's a 17 year old 170k on the clock and over double what it's actually worth.
It's in an owners group, what do you expect? Every one always talked up the values.

Typically the car is also considered a "classic" it it's sub-£5k and the owner demographic is also... "classic".
I shouldn't expect so much I know! haha

Thing is you hope that people in those groups know enough to the point they've bothered joining a group. That said, the more generic groups will attract muppets.

Just find it funny how people really don't grasp the concept of what could be a classic. Not a diesel estate if I'm honest.

donkmeister

8,166 posts

100 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Alex_225 said:
Car goes up for sale on a FB Merc group. It's a nice enough example but it's a 17 year old 170k on the clock and over double what it's actually worth.

Then all the comments come in,

'Epic engine. Will be a classic!'. It's a diesel.

'Price of an old Merc depends on the condition. If it's as good a claimed it's worth every penny of the asking price!'. Erm, well no you can't just pluck a figure out of the air and say, 'it's really tidy so I'll just sell it for this much'.

I suppose I'm expecting too much, it is Facebook after all.
I think Mercedes cars/owners are a fairly extreme example of this so far as non-classics go. Some will spend a fortune keeping them up to snuff, my local Indy had a fairly mundane one in for a new exhaust and the owner insisted on OEM (the parts cost more than the car was worth). The danger is that some then assume the car is worth what they've spent on it rather than what someone will pay for it.

C6s went through a similar phase; the low miles ones were up for "I know what I've got" money, which meant some with interstellar mileage minicab-quality ones thought they were worth the same.

Alex_225

6,263 posts

201 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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donkmeister said:
I think Mercedes cars/owners are a fairly extreme example of this so far as non-classics go. Some will spend a fortune keeping them up to snuff, my local Indy had a fairly mundane one in for a new exhaust and the owner insisted on OEM (the parts cost more than the car was worth). The danger is that some then assume the car is worth what they've spent on it rather than what someone will pay for it.

C6s went through a similar phase; the low miles ones were up for "I know what I've got" money, which meant some with interstellar mileage minicab-quality ones thought they were worth the same.
Yes I think that is often the way. People pay out on a car regardless of value then assume that adds to the overall value of the car. Just doesn't work that way. Just because a car drives perfectly, it's age and mileage is relevant.

Like those people with modified cars that throw thousands at it, then expect to add those costs onto the price when they sell!

Pixelpeep Electric

8,600 posts

142 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Way back when i had my Astra H VXR....

Friends son: "This is a VXR innit? my mates got one of these, they're well quick..."
me: "uh huh"
Friends son: "is this the petrol or diesel"
me: "...."

biggbn

23,342 posts

220 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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M1C said:
Zetec-S said:
Just had someone tell me their new company car, a Kia Sportage, is basically a Korean Audi wobble
Well....it is...? Probably better than an Audi now, too!
...an insult to Kia's reliability that...

Pixelpeep Electric

8,600 posts

142 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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biggbn said:
M1C said:
Zetec-S said:
Just had someone tell me their new company car, a Kia Sportage, is basically a Korean Audi wobble
Well....it is...? Probably better than an Audi now, too!
...an insult to Kia's reliability that...
Like my mate who bought one of those REXTON 4x4s - 'it's basically a merc ML.. it uses all the same stuff'



Pica-Pica

13,792 posts

84 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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biggbn said:
M1C said:
Zetec-S said:
Just had someone tell me their new company car, a Kia Sportage, is basically a Korean Audi wobble
Well....it is...? Probably better than an Audi now, too!
...an insult to Kia's reliability that...
Yes, I think I would prefer a Kia.

vaud

50,503 posts

155 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Had one as a hire car and was very impressed. Better ride quality than an Audi, seemed more suited to UK roads.

Zetec-S

5,874 posts

93 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Speed addicted said:
Zetec-S said:
Just had someone tell me their new company car, a Kia Sportage, is basically a Korean Audi wobble
In a good way or a bad way?
To be honest, I really couldn't work out what point they were trying to make.

Dermot O'Logical

2,579 posts

129 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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The Korean manufacturers head-hunted a lot of very senior engineering talent from Germany in recent years, so there may be more than a grain of truth in some of the inane-sounding "Korean Audi" remarks.

WarrenB

2,407 posts

118 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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Dermot O'Logical said:
The Korean manufacturers head-hunted a lot of very senior engineering talent from Germany in recent years, so there may be more than a grain of truth in some of the inane-sounding "Korean Audi" remarks.
Am I right in saying the chap that designed some of the recent Kias was the same chap who designed the TT?

MartG

20,678 posts

204 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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Pixelpeep Electric said:
Way back when i had my Astra H VXR....

Friends son: "This is a VXR innit? my mates got one of these, they're well quick..."
me: "uh huh"
Friends son: "is this the petrol or diesel"
me: "...."
I had the same question more than once about my Calibra Turbo