Stupid things non petrolheads say... Vol 2

Stupid things non petrolheads say... Vol 2

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blueg33

36,127 posts

225 months

Tuesday 30th April
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Alex@POD said:
NDA said:
"Does your Morgan have a wooden chassis?"
To be fair, there's so much blurb about them having a wooden frame that you can probably forgive that assumption!
IIRC Clarkson once said they had wooden chassis and that stuck.

Didn't some Marcos cars have wooden chassis?

RustyMX5

7,245 posts

218 months

Tuesday 30th April
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blueg33 said:
Alex@POD said:
NDA said:
"Does your Morgan have a wooden chassis?"
To be fair, there's so much blurb about them having a wooden frame that you can probably forgive that assumption!
IIRC Clarkson once said they had wooden chassis and that stuck.

Didn't some Marcos cars have wooden chassis?
Seems like they did

https://www.marcosheritage.com/wooden-chassis-hist...

ChemicalChaos

10,412 posts

161 months

Tuesday 30th April
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urquattroGus said:
DaiB said:
urquattroGus said:
This one comes up a lot and I try not to wince as people are well intentioned:

"Have you been to the Nuremburg Ring"

"You should go to the Nuremburg Ring"
I mean, there's definitely a motorsport connection, all those rallies...
claphehe
Of course, there is an actual Nuremberg Ring - the Norisring circuit uses part of the old parade ground.... nerd

Wills2

23,011 posts

176 months

Wednesday 1st May
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urquattroGus said:
This one comes up a lot and I try not to wince as people are well intentioned:

"Have you been to the Nuremburg Ring"

"You should go to the Nuremburg Ring"
An old friend set out for the Nurburgring and ended up driving around Nuremburg asking where the race track was, he wasn't happy when it was pointed out he'd driven past it over 200 miles earlier.









MartG

20,712 posts

205 months

Wednesday 1st May
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Wills2 said:
urquattroGus said:
This one comes up a lot and I try not to wince as people are well intentioned:

"Have you been to the Nuremburg Ring"

"You should go to the Nuremburg Ring"
An old friend set out for the Nurburgring and ended up driving around Nuremburg asking where the race track was, he wasn't happy when it was pointed out he'd driven past it over 200 miles earlier.
rofl

SCJM21

183 posts

151 months

Had a bit of an odd back and forth with a colleague yesterday - he sent me a list of links to cars out of nowhere asking for my opinion on them. Looks like he just searched for a local car supermarket and sorted under £x price, I said I didn't realise he wanted a new car and the response was "well my MOT is due in 2 weeks and I don't have a spare key nor know where the V5 is"...I'm certain he said his finance is up soon so *shrug* (it's a 5-door Ibiza FR).

Anyway, I plucked a 118i out of the bunch as probably the better of the lot (think it was in the £12-13k area). The response was that he was going to test drive it in 20 minutes.

Later that night I messaged asking how it went and he replied saying he's picking it up shortly, got £4k for the Ibiza and signed up for £220 a month over 48 months on finance for the 1 series. Asked if he was satisfied and the response was "not really, was probably a bit hasty and I've probably made a mistake but oh well"..

I'm still a bit miffed. On the plus side, he asked if I could help him get rid of the eyelids, fake badges and 3D plates!

RazerSauber

2,304 posts

61 months

SCJM21 said:
Had a bit of an odd back and forth with a colleague yesterday - he sent me a list of links to cars out of nowhere asking for my opinion on them. Looks like he just searched for a local car supermarket and sorted under £x price, I said I didn't realise he wanted a new car and the response was "well my MOT is due in 2 weeks and I don't have a spare key nor know where the V5 is"...I'm certain he said his finance is up soon so *shrug* (it's a 5-door Ibiza FR).

Anyway, I plucked a 118i out of the bunch as probably the better of the lot (think it was in the £12-13k area). The response was that he was going to test drive it in 20 minutes.

Later that night I messaged asking how it went and he replied saying he's picking it up shortly, got £4k for the Ibiza and signed up for £220 a month over 48 months on finance for the 1 series. Asked if he was satisfied and the response was "not really, was probably a bit hasty and I've probably made a mistake but oh well"..

I'm still a bit miffed. On the plus side, he asked if I could help him get rid of the eyelids, fake badges and 3D plates!
A fool and his money..

SCJM21

183 posts

151 months

RazerSauber said:
A fool and his money..
Yes, it wasn't necessarily 'stupid things non-petrolheads say', but more just a demonstration of rash decision making when it comes to cars which left many question marks floating around above my head!

I didn't get too involved, I always keep these kinds of conversations at arms reach with friends/colleagues etc as past experiences have told me (and probably many other people) that the more involved you get in buying decisions for other people, the more accountability you end up having if things don't work out.

WarrenB

2,438 posts

119 months

SCJM21 said:
Yes, it wasn't necessarily 'stupid things non-petrolheads say', but more just a demonstration of rash decision making when it comes to cars which left many question marks floating around above my head!

I didn't get too involved, I always keep these kinds of conversations at arms reach with friends/colleagues etc as past experiences have told me (and probably many other people) that the more involved you get in buying decisions for other people, the more accountability you end up having if things don't work out.
My brother is like that. Was telling me he wants a Range Rover, but only has £5k to spend. He runs cars on less than a shoe string, he doesn't spend a penny maintaining them. Managed to get through to him that a Range Rover with his budget would have issues, and he'd need to be constantly spending on it to keep it going. So he decided on a Disco 3. Explained that it wouldn't be much different to the RR for running costs. As he was adamant he wanted a Land Rover I convinced him a Freelander 2 would be the best bet. For a Land Rover they're pretty reliable, and there were plenty of decent ones within his budget.

I found 5 or 6 that were decent spec quite local, within his budget, all decent spec with full history and clean looking. He found one with a godawful body kit in Birmingham. No history, tatty looking, seat bolsters worn away. And it was over his budget. Told him no, lots of red flags, don't even entertain it.

Couple of days later I asked him if he'd looked at any of the Freelanders I found. 'No, I got the one from Birmingham. They're delivering it for free this afternoon'. Turns out he'd just phoned up and asked for it, transferred the money and they were driving it up. It arrived a couple of hours later, they handed the keys over and disappeared in another car. No receipt or invoice and no V5.

The car looked even worse in the metal. The body kit was held on with woodscrews, the tyres were bald, the interior looked like it had been sprayed with silicone from a hose. Everything was shiny and greasy feeling. I drove it up the road, it pulled heavily to the left, trip computer said it had averaged 21mpg over the last 120 miles. Either they'd been hammering it up the M6 or something was amiss.

Told him to book it in for a full service, wheel alignment, new tyres.. 'Yeah yeah yeah'.

He didn't, obviously.

Couple of weeks later it broke down, and it was my fault because I told him to buy a Freelander. Spent £800 getting it fixed up. Needed a lot of welding too as it was rotten underneath.

Broke down again a few weeks later. Needed new glow plugs, but he could start it with a can of easy start so didn't bother replacing them.

Every couple of weeks he had a new issue with it, but never actually got it sorted. Rather than spending money fixing issues he spent money getting them bodged.

So then in a move similar to your colleague he went to the local car supermarket, found a black 1 series and signed up to a ridiculous finance scheme for it.

He offloaded the Freelander to a mate of his, but he couldn't afford to pay him in full so he's paying him £20 a week.

The mind boggles.

murphyaj

661 posts

76 months

SCJM21 said:
Had a bit of an odd back and forth with a colleague yesterday - he sent me a list of links to cars out of nowhere asking for my opinion on them. Looks like he just searched for a local car supermarket and sorted under £x price, I said I didn't realise he wanted a new car and the response was "well my MOT is due in 2 weeks and I don't have a spare key nor know where the V5 is"...I'm certain he said his finance is up soon so *shrug* (it's a 5-door Ibiza FR).

Anyway, I plucked a 118i out of the bunch as probably the better of the lot (think it was in the £12-13k area). The response was that he was going to test drive it in 20 minutes.

Later that night I messaged asking how it went and he replied saying he's picking it up shortly, got £4k for the Ibiza and signed up for £220 a month over 48 months on finance for the 1 series. Asked if he was satisfied and the response was "not really, was probably a bit hasty and I've probably made a mistake but oh well"..

I'm still a bit miffed. On the plus side, he asked if I could help him get rid of the eyelids, fake badges and 3D plates!
On the plus side idiots like this throwing money into the hands of car companies and dealers helps to subsidise the rest of us.

SCJM21

183 posts

151 months

WarrenB said:
My brother is like that. Was telling me he wants a Range Rover, but only has £5k to spend. He runs cars on less than a shoe string, he doesn't spend a penny maintaining them. Managed to get through to him that a Range Rover with his budget would have issues, and he'd need to be constantly spending on it to keep it going. So he decided on a Disco 3. Explained that it wouldn't be much different to the RR for running costs. As he was adamant he wanted a Land Rover I convinced him a Freelander 2 would be the best bet. For a Land Rover they're pretty reliable, and there were plenty of decent ones within his budget.

I found 5 or 6 that were decent spec quite local, within his budget, all decent spec with full history and clean looking. He found one with a godawful body kit in Birmingham. No history, tatty looking, seat bolsters worn away. And it was over his budget. Told him no, lots of red flags, don't even entertain it.

Couple of days later I asked him if he'd looked at any of the Freelanders I found. 'No, I got the one from Birmingham. They're delivering it for free this afternoon'. Turns out he'd just phoned up and asked for it, transferred the money and they were driving it up. It arrived a couple of hours later, they handed the keys over and disappeared in another car. No receipt or invoice and no V5.

The car looked even worse in the metal. The body kit was held on with woodscrews, the tyres were bald, the interior looked like it had been sprayed with silicone from a hose. Everything was shiny and greasy feeling. I drove it up the road, it pulled heavily to the left, trip computer said it had averaged 21mpg over the last 120 miles. Either they'd been hammering it up the M6 or something was amiss.

Told him to book it in for a full service, wheel alignment, new tyres.. 'Yeah yeah yeah'.

He didn't, obviously.

Couple of weeks later it broke down, and it was my fault because I told him to buy a Freelander. Spent £800 getting it fixed up. Needed a lot of welding too as it was rotten underneath.

Broke down again a few weeks later. Needed new glow plugs, but he could start it with a can of easy start so didn't bother replacing them.

Every couple of weeks he had a new issue with it, but never actually got it sorted. Rather than spending money fixing issues he spent money getting them bodged.

So then in a move similar to your colleague he went to the local car supermarket, found a black 1 series and signed up to a ridiculous finance scheme for it.

He offloaded the Freelander to a mate of his, but he couldn't afford to pay him in full so he's paying him £20 a week.

The mind boggles.
Indeed, asking for advice then ignoring it just takes things to another level.

In my scenario, he actually abided by my advice, I mean, of the cars he sent to me I just selected the car I thought seemed best for value / spec / options etc. I could have been all "you don't want any of those, you want one of these" but it's not my car, like I said I'm keeping my distance here.

It was a real lucky dip of motors too, a base spec A1, a Sportage, MG ZS, T-Roc, Scirocco and an Arona. If I had that budget these would all be rock bottom of the selections list, but that's just me, I'd be looking at what flavour of Megane RS I could get for that wonga.

LARK F1 GTR

3,320 posts

147 months

SCJM21 said:
Indeed, asking for advice then ignoring it just takes things to another level.
This is always the way!! banghead Oh you know about so and so yeah? I do yeah, what's up? Oh can you help me with this?? blah blah blah. Give advice, they will always ignore it, then report back when something has gone wrong.

Sometimes is best to keep your hobbies and interests to yourself.

The Mad Monk

10,484 posts

118 months

murphyaj said:
On the plus side idiots like this throwing money into the hands of car companies and dealers helps to subsidise the rest of us.
If only it were true. I think it simply increases the profits for unscrupulous dealers, who spend the money on ... -insert what you think would be a complete waste of money.


DickyC

49,915 posts

199 months

Daughter #2 borrowed my car. A day or so later she rang,

"Does your car use unleaded?"
"Petrol, yes. The last one was diesel."
"Unleaded?"
"Yes."

It was easier to go with the flow than explain how leaded petrol hasn't been available for years. The distinction is between petrol and diesel, that's all you need to know.

Next time I bought fuel I looked at the pump to reassure myself of my infallibility.



Wha...? I could hardly believe it. Regular petrol is called Unleaded.

STUPID THINGS PETROLHEADS SAY

paperbag

NDA

21,670 posts

226 months

Saturday
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WarrenB said:
My brother is like that. Was telling me he wants a Range Rover, but only has £5k to spend. He runs cars on less than a shoe string, he doesn't spend a penny maintaining them. Managed to get through to him that a Range Rover with his budget would have issues, and he'd need to be constantly spending on it to keep it going.
Having said that....

I sold my 150,000 mile 2005 supercharged Range Rover recently. I had it from new, main dealer serviced, no issues, no rust, never an engine problem. Most I could get for it was £5k. But they're not cheap to run and every service had 'something' requiring £1k to be spent.

Disco You

3,687 posts

181 months

Saturday
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NDA said:
WarrenB said:
My brother is like that. Was telling me he wants a Range Rover, but only has £5k to spend. He runs cars on less than a shoe string, he doesn't spend a penny maintaining them. Managed to get through to him that a Range Rover with his budget would have issues, and he'd need to be constantly spending on it to keep it going.
Having said that....

I sold my 150,000 mile 2005 supercharged Range Rover recently. I had it from new, main dealer serviced, no issues, no rust, never an engine problem. Most I could get for it was £5k. But they're not cheap to run and every service had 'something' requiring £1k to be spent.
“ no issues”

“ every service had 'something' requiring £1k to be spent.”


Err….


rottenegg

463 posts

64 months

Saturday
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My missus made me chuckle today. Her Golf's air con pump failed a few weeks ago but I didn't have the heart to tell her. She went out in it earlier and came back and said the "Always Cold" (AC) button doesn't work anymore laugh

NDA

21,670 posts

226 months

Yesterday (05:48)
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Disco You said:
“ no issues”

“ every service had 'something' requiring £1k to be spent.”


Err….
Fair comment, that did sound a bit contradictory.

I meant nothing major - it was always the little things that added up, suspension bush, fault with air compressor etc Always a something as it got older. But never more than a few hundred which would put a service up to £1k typically. I regarded it as fairly normal for an elderly car and was lucky not to have ever had any major faults.

donkmeister

8,272 posts

101 months

Yesterday (10:32)
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ChemicalChaos said:
urquattroGus said:
DaiB said:
urquattroGus said:
This one comes up a lot and I try not to wince as people are well intentioned:

"Have you been to the Nuremburg Ring"

"You should go to the Nuremburg Ring"
I mean, there's definitely a motorsport connection, all those rallies...
claphehe
Of course, there is an actual Nuremberg Ring - the Norisring circuit uses part of the old parade ground.... nerd
There's a missed opportunity there if they don't have a big muddy hill to hold the Nuremberg Trials on.

Ifinishposts

1,443 posts

138 months

Yesterday (19:40)
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SCJM21 said:
Had a bit of an odd back and forth with a colleague yesterday - he sent me a list of links to cars out of nowhere asking for my opinion on them. Looks like he just searched for a local car supermarket and sorted under £x price, I said I didn't realise he wanted a new car and the response was "well my MOT is due in 2 weeks and I don't have a spare key nor know where the V5 is"...I'm certain he said his finance is up soon so *shrug* (it's a 5-door Ibiza FR).

Anyway, I plucked a 118i out of the bunch as probably the better of the lot (think it was in the £12-13k area). The response was that he was going to test drive it in 20 minutes.

Later that night I messaged asking how it went and he replied saying he's picking it up shortly, got £4k for the Ibiza and signed up for £220 a month over 48 months on finance for the 1 series. Asked if he was satisfied and the response was "not really, was probably a bit hasty and I've probably made a mistake but oh well"..

I'm still a bit miffed. On the plus side, he asked if I could help him get rid of the eyelids, fake badges and 3D plates!
So you advised him (best of the bunch) now you are taking the mick for the tat it has had fitted?
If that was the best I would hate to see what the other choices were.