RE: Bugatti Chiron - Geneva 2016

[Evolved]

How do you go from something menacing and sporty like the concept to this? It beggars belief how car companies always seem to move things on in the wrong direction!

[stratosboy]

Like the exterior styling, but not the interior, what happens to help understand why interior design on cars costing this much goes completely naff? There are loads of examples - Pagani especially. Just don't get it.

[Fire99]

I think Bugatti (OK, VAG) have to be heralded that they have produced a car that can regularly hit 200+mph with all the drama that my daily driver car can hit 80mph... It's certainly an engineering masterpiece in my opinion.

Wasn't the Veyron around £800k when it was released??? This is one serious price hike. (Probably because they can sell it at over twice the price!!)

So on one hand I think it's brilliant.. On the other I'd say it lacks the drama, excitement and maybe fear factor that makes a supercar draw me in.

I'd still take some form of Koenigsegg over this just because I think I'd get out of the 'segg with my pulse racing and slightly sweaty palms where the Chiron would just have escorted me somewhere with no fuss nor drama, but just exceptionally quickly!

[big_rob_sydney]

briSk said:

I genuinely expected to read the story on here and see an overwhelming number of comments about how hideous it is!...and there are a lot of people with eyes.. but it does seem as though we've been taken over by the RNIB motoring association! ;-)

What a goppingly awful looking car. I can accept its irrelevance but by jingo it's terrible looking. Every day I walk past a Bentley convertible with various hideous wraps applied and the registration M11NEY. I will no longer be able to dislike that car as much as the whole scale has been re-defined..! At best it looks like someone reversed a Brera into one of those eastern-European-powered pedal-taxi things.

Still as people have said - the Veyron was a huge commercial success, the EB110 certainly was not.

Commercial success? As I understand it, they cost about 5m euros each to build, and sold for about a fifth of that. They lost money hand over fist on each and every one.

Why did they do it then? Its a halo product, to hopefully add some cred to other cars in the portfolio, and make money elsewhere.

Something I find amusing; since release, they've basically lost money. No one seems interested in the second hand market. But look at Ferrari and the Enzo. Prices have gone stratospheric. No love for the Veyron.

So when I see one, I just think "what a misplaced investment".

[swisstoni]

Don't normally find hypercars very interesting but this is quite something to look at - better than the original IMHO.

[GroundEffect]

Evolved said:

How do you go from something menacing and sporty like the concept to this? It beggars belief how car companies always seem to move things on in the wrong direction!

You mean the GT Concept? For God sake, that's a race car for Gran Turismo computer games.

And really...you think that looks better as a luxury grand tourer than the Chiron?


PH - Lack of taste is prerequisite.

[Burwood]

Fire99 said:

I think Bugatti (OK, VAG) have to be heralded that they have produced a car that can regularly hit 200+mph with all the drama that my daily driver car can hit 80mph... It's certainly an engineering masterpiece in my opinion.

Wasn't the Veyron around £800k when it was released??? This is one serious price hike. (Probably because they can sell it at over twice the price!!)

So on one hand I think it's brilliant.. On the other I'd say it lacks the drama, excitement and maybe fear factor that makes a supercar draw me in.

I'd still take some form of Koenigsegg over this just because I think I'd get out of the 'segg with my pulse racing and slightly sweaty palms where the Chiron would just have escorted me somewhere with no fuss nor drama, but just exceptionally quickly!

They were 1.065m quid but the SS veyron was 1.665 so not such an increase

[Atmospheric]

Like.

I hugely respect K'Egg's achievements, but I'm never totally convinced by their cars. the One:1 thing is no doubt impressive.

I'd just prefer this.

Are we sure the One:1 would see which way a Huyara/918/P1/LaF went on a decent road? I'm not so sure.

[kambites]

Once you get to this sort of level, actual performance is a completely moot point on the road. The fastest car will be the one with the stupidest driver.

[Quickmoose]

kambites said:

Once you get to this sort of level, actual performance is a completely moot point on the road. The fastest car will be the one with the stupidest driver.

absolutely.

What you have now are the establishment versus the artisan/brave/entrepreneurs - Gumpert/Pagani/Konigsegg, and arguably when spending stupid amounts the bespoke nature of Pagani or Konig elevate them above the likes of the common Porsche/Ferrari or McLaren.
Something about Christian Von Konigsegg that I'd really like to buy into...the thought, originality and deep, deep knowledge of his product. NO marketing needed, the stuff he develops doesn't trickle down or get watered down for lesser models... it's unique.
I even forgive Pagani his overly flowery and ornate interiors for the same reason..
So for me as much as I love the established trinity or whatever, at this level there is better to be had in terms of a statement....because that's what they are.
The Bugatti doesn't factor into my 'want' list, as apart from hammering the laws of physics and pummeling top trumps, it's just not that 'special'... it's where VAG stop getting shouty, and I stopped listening at Lamborghini.

[Yipper]

Clarkson finally got to drive and review the Chiron this month. Sounds like it will be on the GT this Autumn.

https://www.driving.co.uk/car-reviews/clarkson/cla...