Toyota GT86: PH Fleet
Matt bids an emotional farewell to the much loved GT86 Primo
That didn't happen. Because the body shop was close to Toyota's press office, they collected it and there was no chance for a proper goodbye. Leaving my last drive in it a rather miserable slog across a sodden M4. Very far from thrilling.
It wasn't exactly how I wanted the loan to end, but there are more than enough positive memories to outweigh that. Fortunately the last few weeks with the GT86 were just as the previous 20 or so had been - marvellous, in a word - which means this end-of-term report can be almost entirely positive.
The GT86 isn't perfect, mind. Even the most ardent of fanboys would struggle to say that. It desperately needs tyres that can do the chassis justice and the noise it makes as standard is fairly bland. I'm yet to meet anybody who disagrees with those. The power debate could of course run and run; for me 200hp feels fine, but the prospect of some N/A tuning to about 225hp would be hard to refuse if the car were actually mine.
That being said, even as standard the GT86 was terrific. In a world where cars like the bloody Audi SQ7 exist, to drive a front-engined, rear-wheel drive coupe with an atmospheric engine and a weight around 1,200kg is an absolute tonic. It's a superb reminder of why we put the effort into learning to drive properly and why it's so rewarding: rev-matching downshifts, dealing with under- and oversteer and working for the performance on offer, instead of just bludgeoning your path on a wave of turbo torque and whip crack (automatic) gearshifts.
Moreover, there's all this fun and satisfaction in a Toyota sold with a five-year warranty. It's the perfect cake-and-eat-it scenario: an exciting sports car with Japanese reliability. Over our 9,000 miles or so with the car it was faultless, as you would expect, so it would be interesting to see if real owners have found similar with more time driving the car.
Now it's only reasonable to state that I liked the GT86 before it arrived; with a long-term loan the opportunity was there to see if the fun from short tests was more deep seated. I can happily report that it most definitely is, the little red Toyota always a joy to return to even after supposedly more exotic cars. It feels superbly well engineered, like it's been developed by people who really care about driving.
Yes, you can go faster for less money than a GT86 and, yes, the deals on them aren't great. But the GT86 really isn't a numbers car in any sense; it's about driving for the fun and enjoyment of it, which is kind of what we're here for. If you're really that fussed about which diesel is going to out accelerate you from the lights the GT86 is never going to appeal. I think it's an entirely daft comparison but there we are.
If you like driving for driving's sake though you really must try one. The only car at the money that feels similar in terms of driver reward and depth of engineering is the Renaultsport Megane; as standard I would still opt for the Renault, but I think the Toyota is a better set of tyres and a more exciting noise away from changing my mind. Plus, if you like cheeky little drifts out of junctions then there's only one choice...
More seriously though, we need to buy and enjoy cars like the GT86 while we still can. How long have we got with non-turbocharged, manual sports coupes? As turbos and automatics continue to improve, the regular car buyer will no longer have any interest in relatively labour intensive sports cars. The enthusiasts must prevent this! I really don't think you will regret it.
So GY15 VFZ will be missed a little at PH. I'm not the only one sad to let a GT86 long-termer go either, Matt Prior at Autocar doing 30,000 miles in his and saying to me last year that it's one of very few new cars he would buy with his own money. You and me both Matt! Right after my DC2 Integra, E46 M3 and VX220... If a PHer does come across the red Primo, I'd love to know about it as I appear to have become rather attached. Fortunately there's another Japanese car taking its place though, this also with a great manual gearbox and a limited-slip diff. More on that soon!
FACT SHEET
Car: 2015 Toyota GT86 Primo
Run by: Matt
On fleet since: July 2015
Mileage: 9,076
List price new: £22,495 (and £22,495 as tested! List price £22,700, GT86 Primo currently available with £205 dealer discount 'when ordered and proposed for finance' between 18/12/2015 and 31/03/2016 and registered by 30/06/2016)
Last month at a glance: Time to reflect on a glorious few months with the GT86
Previous reports:
Press car without a single option? Welcome the GT86 Primo!
Three thousand miles in a month gets the '86 run in...
A less exciting month for the GT86 but it's still great!
Fun in the sun with the GT86
Track day hooning to motorway eco driving
The '86 is great as standard, so what about a tuned one?
Another driver, another member of the GT86 fan club
Images: Dan Trent/Ben Lowden
As for deals, mine was bought at 3 years old for £10k under list for an equivalent new one. There are decent PCP deals available for used buyers. A lot of the cars that were on 3-4 year deals from new will be going back to Toyota, so expect a few keen priced examples appearing.
Here's mine on its first track outing at the SS This weekend.
A write up I did a few months back, too:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
I'm not saying you have to buy one... but you have to buy one.
I guess it just goes to the show that enthusiast 'drivers' are hugely outnumbered by enthusiast 'owners' who are far more interested in bling and bragging rights than driving fun - or perhaps for these people driving 'fun' equates to out-accelerating diesels on a dual-carriageway.
I have heard a shorter final drive ratio really wakes these cars up. Has anyone investigated yet?
I guess it just goes to the show that enthusiast 'drivers' are hugely outnumbered by enthusiast 'owners' who are far more interested in bling and bragging rights than driving fun - or perhaps for these people driving 'fun' equates to out-accelerating diesels on a dual-carriageway.
I have heard a shorter final drive ratio really wakes these cars up. Has anyone investigated yet?
Did you record your mpg for the entire time you run this car?
I'm considering one but it will be used 50% of the time to commute so am interested in the real world/actual mpg
Thanks
It's never dipped below 30mpg unless on track (or in Scotland!) and it's averaged about 33 I think. It will do 40mpg comfortably on a run and I think most owners are nearer the 37mpg claimed consumption than me. Might have been a bit too fast most of the time...
Matt
I think they are a great car. Hugely overlooked as the headline numbers are not appealing to the 0-60 3 series crowd.
My first Toyota and, as a sensible car beckons, I am sticking with the brand based on my GT86 experience
I am going to be horribly disappointed in my new RAV4.
Best get some miles in before Friday handover.
Just checked my car and I have averaged 33.7MPG over the last 34,000 miles
I just realised how to save the GT-86/BRZ.
MAKE A TURBODIESEL VERSION.
Then the numpty spec-sheet buyers will all get one, as it's a sporty-looking car with easy torque and plenty of em pee gees.
It could save the proper petrol version for the petrol heads!
ARE YOU LISTENING SUBARU? SACRIFICES MUST BE MADE.
I'd happily have either, but I wanted a convertible hence my choice.
Interestingly, my 2.0 MX5 is consistently returning an average of 45mpg with a good mix of M25 commutes and more spirited A road drives.
Then in 2014 I booked myself a test drive in a manual one at my local dealership on my birthday!
Very impressed with the car, but I couldn't really justify the cost when I sat and did some proper maths (as opposed to man-maths)!
Then a few weeks later I went to look at a used Z4 Coupe, and as they say power corrupts so I bought that! At least I still bought an N/A petrol-engined RWD car, and I love it.
Saying that I would still consider one at some point, as the Z4 is getting older and there are so few newer alternatives with that sort of mechanical layout. I still notice them every time I see one, unlike most of the Euroboxes.
Just please that they actually did finally put it into production - well done to Subaru and Toyota!
Did you record your mpg for the entire time you run this car?
I'm considering one but it will be used 50% of the time to commute so am interested in the real world/actual mpg
Thanks
For anyone considering getting one, my advice is haggle hard as supply is greater than demand at the moment. I picked-up my 1 year old, 6k mile car (so almost new) for £17k.
The choice becomes clearer when you're comparing to a Fiesta ST than a RS Megane... Especially if you're getting more warranty than a brand new Fiesta anyway!
I guess it just goes to the show that enthusiast 'drivers' are hugely outnumbered by enthusiast 'owners' who are far more interested in bling and bragging rights than driving fun - or perhaps for these people driving 'fun' equates to out-accelerating diesels on a dual-carriageway.
I have heard a shorter final drive ratio really wakes these cars up. Has anyone investigated yet?
But the dynamics and feel? I think you'd struggle.
Clearly, you could get a 5-10 year old something which would cost two or three times as much when new, but then you'd have to consider reliability and maintenance as well as the old car thing, even if it's a porsche or whatever is usually mentioned. Even the oldest like mine, has the better part of two years manufacturers warranty - and it's hardly missed a beat in c. 45,000 miles so far.
The simple fact is, there is nothing else like it on the market today.
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