Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 10]

[anonymous-user]

Krikkit said:

5k + haggle of course.

Please don't take it personally, I wouldn't want to discourage someone from enthusiastically trawling for our fare.

Not at all mate.

Was just getting a bit carried away.

It is up to 5K and a barge so I should have stayed in these stipulations.

Now where was that F40.......

Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 23 August 21:41

[deeen]

Some coupes are definately barges.

[deeen]

Thankyou4calling said:

I just glanced on Autotrader and noticed that we will soon be welcoming a new entry to the 1-5k barge thread.

The Jaguar XF is getting very close. I'll post a link to a couple tomorrow. Yes, they've done a high mileage but to my mind they look a lot of car for the money.

What do others think?

Depends... Would you call an Insignia a barge?

[Krikkit]

Quite like this for a haggle into thread budget, what are the w221 like? S350 rather than 500, but the V6 is potent enough to propel 2T quickly enough.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

[BlueHave]

judas said:

ELUSIVEJIM said:

Any Jaguar fans wanting to cry?

Just wanted to post so not to miss this beauty.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jaguar-xj8-4ltr-sovereig...

Why is it whenever anyone uses that awful phrase "a real head-turner" it inevitably means turning your head away and praying you can unsee the monstrosity that's just raped your eyeballs?

In summary:

He's had a lot of questions, i'm willing to bet most of them are - Why?

But apparently its not some run around old banger, well he could have fooled me. It just looks like a half arsed attempt to add value that isn't there.

[anonymous-user]

Krikkit said:

Quite like this for a haggle into thread budget, what are the w221 like? S350 rather than 500, but the V6 is potent enough to propel 2T quickly enough.


http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

Personally think these look great.

Is £500 tax correct?

That would hurt.

[Fake7]

I've been reading this thread for many months now, and would like to thank everyone for an excellent read. Maybe one day I too will purchase a car suitable to be added to the discussion (I've had a couple of barges in the past).
Anyway, I've soaked up all the advice and listened attentively, so I think I now know what you will appreciate. I have found this little beauty...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/mercedes-w126-380-sel/12...

enjoy

[BlackGT3]

A friend has decided to sell his 1991 W124 300 E Coupe. he has owned it since 2004 and covered approx 10,000 miles. It hasn't been on the road since 2011 and he has lost interest in it. All the books/manuals are present, some old MOT's and it was last serviced in 2004 at the Merc dealer according to the service book 108k miles. current Mileage is 118495

He has kept it in a garage since taking ownership. The bodywork and interior appears to be in very good condition except for the rust on the front wings and the damage to the rear bumper as seen in the pictures. He intends to buy a new battery and get the engine running. He has asked me what he should be asking for it and where to advertise. From what I can see, the car has electric windows and roof, cruise, electrics seats etc The car will hopefully be running but no MOT.

What would the W124 experts advise in terms of price?

Edited by BlackGT3 on Tuesday 23 August 22:08

Edited by BlackGT3 on Tuesday 23 August 22:31

[deeen]

Fake7 said:

I've been reading this thread for many months now, and would like to thank everyone for an excellent read. Maybe one day I too will purchase a car suitable to be added to the discussion (I've had a couple of barges in the past).
Anyway, I've soaked up all the advice and listened attentively, so I think I now know what you will appreciate. I have found this little beauty...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/mercedes-w126-380-sel/12...

enjoy

Ermmm...

[W00DY]

Krikkit said:

Quite like this for a haggle into thread budget, what are the w221 like? S350 rather than 500, but the V6 is potent enough to propel 2T quickly enough.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

Quite the haggle if you take the intake manifold into account, but it seems like they're getting closer. Rather like them.

[Stegel]

ELUSIVEJIM said:

Krikkit said:

Quite like this for a haggle into thread budget, what are the w221 like? S350 rather than 500, but the V6 is potent enough to propel 2T quickly enough.


http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

Personally think these look great.

Is £500 tax correct?

That would hurt.

I think the inlet manifold will hurt more - on a (admittedly diesel) S211 a new inlet manifold cost £2,200 (MB paid 85% from memory) so I expect the V6 petrol will be something similar at a main dealer, and probably more than 1k at an indy. It's also from the balancer shaft issue era, so a car able to inflict pain in many ways.

[W00DY]

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

If you're feeling brave.

[W00DY]

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

Quite flash.

[Krikkit]

Wow, two barges of absolutely epic thirst. I'm not sure which one's worse, but the RR with nearly 200k miles is something requiring a truckload of brave pills.

[bob-lad]

ELUSIVEJIM said:

Krikkit said:

It's not dyslexia, it's either technophobia or (and I'd say more likely) idiocy.

Not many sensible people would write an ad like that.

I was trying to be nice.............LOL

Love your reply.

Who wouldn't want a hover

An ad from the kid of a non-English speaker/complete muppet possibly, but definitely a trader. The place is littered with vehicles.

[bob-lad]

ELUSIVEJIM said:

Krikkit said:

I think perhaps a little more filter is required is all - some of the cars are blatantly going to be 10k+, and although it's nice to ogle them briefly, it's not really thread remit. An occasional non-barge has crept in too.

Right will start filtering better.

I have seen a few coupe's in the past so thought if it was a large one it would be fine.

I will only post barges and cars which I know will be under 5k

Oh and make it something inspirational/aspirational, not just a nail that happens to fit budget.

With a few exceptions, Ford/Vauxhall/VW/Seat/Skoda/BL/Anything French/Fiat are not desirable.

Barges tend to be "the size of a 5 series and above" as a rule, however, there is the not-so-unwritten law that the 190 is the exception to the sizing of a barge.

Personally I think barges start at 7 series size cars. Funny that I chose BMWs as size markers, as that's one brand I'd not add to the fleet. Odd.

None of the above is a fact

[anonymous-user]

BigBen said:

Just spoke with the vendor who did not sound very Crawley so a plus point at the start.

It sounds like an alright car and will come with a new MOT. What I need to establish next is if the marks / dents are parking scuffs or if they are all rust spots. There is some rust visible in the pics around the rear bumper and the massive section of paint that is missing.

Anyone got a checklist for the W220? I know mainly rust but where are the hidden hotspots? Next step is I am going to get a friend to go and have a look since it turns out he lives very close to the vendor.

Ben

Like you say, the main thing with that car will be establishing just how bad the rust bug has bitten. In an ideal world you'd want to remove the plastic covers along the sills and rear bumper to see what the state of the metal is like behind, although realistically a careful inspection of what is visible and a strong dose of brave pills is the best you're going to get.

They can rust practically anywhere, but particularly you're looking at the all arches, inner wings, doors (both at the bottoms and below the plastic trims), boot lid, etc.

It is worth mentioning that a lot of the 'rust' claims for the W220 are bubbling areas of paint as opposed to being full blown, MOT failing rotten, but it can happen, see here:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/S500-Spares-or-repair-/1...


You'll also want to check the Plenum drains for blockages, the carpets for wetness, the interior and boot for that moldy smell and the electricals for full function - The drains have a habit of getting blocked allowing water to drain into the cabin and flood some every expensive wiring and control modules.

Check as much of the suspension pipe work for leaks/seeping hoses as much as possible. Again, you're fairly limited to what you can inspect without jacking it up, but do the best you can. Make sure the ABC level is correct both at cold and once its been running, and that the fluid is bright green and does not have a 'burnt' smell to it. Excess fluid around the ABC reservoir indicates knackered accumulators, but truth is at this age you might want to budget for replacing them anyway (~600 pounds DIY).

Unless it has very recent receipts for coil packs and a ABC pump, assume that they will need to be done at some point soon. Failing coil packs will cause a random misfire/rough running maybe a EML, a failing pump can be anything from being noisy in operation, to spewing fluid out of the O-Rings to simply not making enough pressure, but there's no way of checking the later without a STAR diagnostic computer (highly recommended if you do buy one). Raising and lowering the car puts the pump under a lot of stress, so scroll through the height settings a couple of times and keep an ear out for what the pump is doing, and a eye on the dash for any red warning lights during/after raising.

The engine should be next to silent, not smoke and pull strongly. Its maybe worth trying giving it some beans, letting the heat soak in, and then trying another pull. If it feels weak on subsequent runs it is likely to have a bad charge cooler pump. Not an expensive part, but bleeding the system is a specialized job.

Its also advised you try a couple of hot restarts, as starter motors are known to fail (and require the engine to come out!).

I think the main thing when buying one for this sort of money is to be realistic and view it as a long term project that you don't mind putting money into. If you're looking for something close to perfect you're probably going to be disappointed with any 600 that will come up for thread budget.

Good luck!

[bob-lad]

Fake7 said:

I've been reading this thread for many months now, and would like to thank everyone for an excellent read. Maybe one day I too will purchase a car suitable to be added to the discussion (I've had a couple of barges in the past).
Anyway, I've soaked up all the advice and listened attentively, so I think I now know what you will appreciate. I have found this little beauty...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/mercedes-w126-380-sel/12...

enjoy

Well... there's very little to enjoy there.



We have ourselves a new thread comedian

[phil_cardiff]

bob-lad said:

ELUSIVEJIM said:

Krikkit said:

I think perhaps a little more filter is required is all - some of the cars are blatantly going to be 10k+, and although it's nice to ogle them briefly, it's not really thread remit. An occasional non-barge has crept in too.

Right will start filtering better.

I have seen a few coupe's in the past so thought if it was a large one it would be fine.

I will only post barges and cars which I know will be under 5k

Oh and make it something inspirational/aspirational, not just a nail that happens to fit budget.

With a few exceptions, Ford/Vauxhall/VW/Seat/Skoda/BL/Anything French/Fiat are not desirable.

Barges tend to be "the size of a 5 series and above" as a rule, however, there is the not-so-unwritten law that the 190 is the exception to the sizing of a barge.

Personally I think barges start at 7 series size cars. Funny that I chose BMWs as size markers, as that's one brand I'd not add to the fleet. Odd.

None of the above is a fact

No way. The latest Mondeo is a land whale and surely dwarfs the E39s that we ogle here. And I for one like a bit of blue collar barging. I'd like to try the latest Mondeo with the 2.5 petrol.

[bob-lad]

phil_cardiff said:

No way. The latest Mondeo is a land whale and surely dwarfs the E39s that we ogle here. And I for one like a bit of blue collar barging. I'd like to try the latest Mondeo with the 2.5 petrol.

Go for it, but it's not an aspirational barge.

Unless you drive a £300 Corsa.