RE: New Audi TT RS revealed

[Beefmeister]

Msportman said:

Why don't Audi forget the heavy 5 pot where it hangs far too much over the front axle causing that leaden under steering feel.

This is an all new 2.5t 5cyl. Weighs 25kg less than the old lump thanks to an aluminium block.

[Meridius]

Im sure I have read somewhere that the 2.5 is shorter in height and length too, which should help with centre of gravity.

[aka_kerrly]

[KMANNNN001]

Think I'll be keeping my 235i- straight 6, RWD, and decent handling..

[kmpowell]

KMANNNN001 said:

Think I'll be keeping my 235i- straight 6, RWD, and decent handling..

Sure, because a 235i is a direct comparison to a TTRS...

[Beefmeister]

KMANNNN001 said:

Think I'll be keeping my 235i- straight 6, RWD, and decent handling..

Nobody has driven the new TTRS. You have no clue if it's decent handling or not.

[ORD]

Handling is subjective - if he likes typical RWD handling, he's unlikely to enjoy a nose heavy AWD Audi (even one that gets round corners quickly).

[tomjol]

KMANNNN001 said:

Think I'll be keeping my 235i- straight 6, RWD, and decent handling..

What a brilliant contribution.

[nickfrog]

kmpowell said:

KMANNNN001 said:

Think I'll be keeping my 235i- straight 6, RWD, and decent handling..

Sure, because a 235i is a direct comparison to a TTRS...

To be fair, I can see someone looking at both, however different they are in character, handling... and price. I do think the 235i would be a good alternative to it despite probably belonging to a lower "price point".

[billyali86]

Lots of comments here about how it will drive despite no one actually having driven it yet

I had the MK2 TT RS and I loved it, can't wait to get behind the wheel of this one however practicality reasons means its no go for me ownership wise

[HighwayStar]

billyali86 said:

Lots of comments here about how it will drive despite no one actually having driven it yet

I had the MK2 TT RS and I loved it, can't wait to get behind the wheel of this one however practicality reasons means its no go for me ownership wise

As usual it's all presumption around here but I'm guilty of it too. More of an eductated quess and guilt by association...
I've gone a different way now but I had a MK2 TTS for 5 yrs.. It was a quick and effective but I never felt immersed in proceedings. I had a TT RS test drive, amazing engine but it was just more of the same, detachment. Only faster. I got a dealer invite to an RS day where I got more RS seat time, this time a Roaster. Same. The MK3 came out, test drives of the TT fwd and TTS followed. Hmmm. The interior and all the tech, all fabulous and slick. I can take it or leave it though. The TT
The new TTS goes hard, high grip levels and yet... I felt even more detached than the MK2.
The TT Forum guys love it, they love the tech and the design. Audi know their customers and most current owners will love the RS. I suspect with 26kg less engine weight up from the RS will be an improvement though ultimately the same as before hence me going another way.

[s m]

HighwayStar said:

As usual it's all presumption around here but I'm guilty of it too. More of an eductated quess and guilt by association...
I've gone a different way now but I had a MK2 TTS for 5 yrs.. It was a quick and effective but I never felt immersed in proceedings. I had a TT RS test drive, amazing engine but it was just more of the same, detachment. Only faster. I got a dealer invite to an RS day where I got more RS seat time, this time a Roaster. Same. The MK3 came out, test drives of the TT fwd and TTS followed. Hmmm. The interior and all the tech, all fabulous and slick. I can take it or leave it though. The TT
The new TTS goes hard, high grip levels and yet... I felt even more detached than the MK2.
The TT Forum guys love it, they love the tech and the design. Audi know their customers and most current owners will love the RS. I suspect with 26kg less engine weight up from the RS will be an improvement though ultimately the same as before hence me going another way.

What did you opt for out of interest?

[aka_kerrly]

ORD said:

Handling is subjective - if he likes typical RWD handling, he's unlikely to enjoy a nose heavy AWD Audi (even one that gets round corners quickly).

For reference the Audi now has a 59/41 split f/r

[ORD]

But that doesn't tell the whole story, as you know. It's still a fairly bad place to start if you want to build an enjoyable car to drive.

[MrBarry123]

ORD said:

But that doesn't tell the whole story, as you know. It's still a fairly bad place to start if you want to build an enjoyable car to drive.

In your opinion of course.

[ORD]

MrBarry123 said:

ORD said:

But that doesn't tell the whole story, as you know. It's still a fairly bad place to start if you want to build an enjoyable car to drive.

In your opinion of course.

Who else's opinion would it be?

In any case, I doubt anyone would start with a transverse 5 over the front axle if given a blank sheet of paper.

Edited to give it back a cylinder!

[funkyrobot]

What a hideous, fat looking car.

It looks like someone beat the st out of an overweight Cylon.

Can't comment on how it drives. It does look heavy though. Then again, all Audi vehicles feel heavy to me.

[MrBarry123]

ORD said:

Who else's opinion would it be?

In any case, I doubt anyone would start with a transverse 4 over the front axle if given a blank sheet of paper.

Whilst it may not be ideal, it doesn't mean it wouldn't be enjoyable to drive.

[HighwayStar]

s m said:

HighwayStar said:

As usual it's all presumption around here but I'm guilty of it too. More of an eductated quess and guilt by association...
I've gone a different way now but I had a MK2 TTS for 5 yrs.. It was a quick and effective but I never felt immersed in proceedings. I had a TT RS test drive, amazing engine but it was just more of the same, detachment. Only faster. I got a dealer invite to an RS day where I got more RS seat time, this time a Roaster. Same. The MK3 came out, test drives of the TT fwd and TTS followed. Hmmm. The interior and all the tech, all fabulous and slick. I can take it or leave it though. The TT
The new TTS goes hard, high grip levels and yet... I felt even more detached than the MK2.
The TT Forum guys love it, they love the tech and the design. Audi know their customers and most current owners will love the RS. I suspect with 26kg less engine weight up from the RS will be an improvement though ultimately the same as before hence me going another way.

What did you opt for out of interest?

I didn't want to make it about the TTS/RS not being as good as X car but as you asked I will open it up.
What I will say though having been on the TT forum for years is their major love of those cars is Quattro, midrange turbo torque and Audi tech. They tend to like the sheer pace of the RS, that it's simply faster than a lot of other fast cars make it better than those cars to many. Of course some witl acknowledged its not that involving, but with Quattro it's safe, secure, relatively easy on the pocket and in coupé form fairly practical.
I would sum it up as the TTS/RS is a very good all rounder, useful back seats, decent loadspace with those seats folded down with serious performance but not a great sports car.
Me, I went for a 981 Cayman S PDK, not a great all rounder if you need extra space and flexibility but the real McCoy, a proper mid engined sports car. I've had it a week now and it's everything I wanted and more.

[scherzkeks]

aka_kerrly said:

For reference the Audi now has a 59/41 split f/r

It's been like that for some time. My old S3 SB was 58/42.