M135i or GT86?
Discussion
I thought the GT86 was going to be a great car for me (I love things like the Integra Type R).
I was waiting till prices reached £10k before buying one, that was until I hired a GT86 for a week and did a lot of driving and was left very disappointed.
Nice chassis, great steering, loved the driving position but the lack of performance was the problem, and its a big problem, when I was in the mood I was driving it flat out using all the revs on country roads and its just way too slow.
It also makes a dreadful sound in the cabin - more like a hairdryer than a performance car I presume it had some kind of sound generator but as it was a hire car I didn't know how to turn it off.
I did enjoy having it for a week, but it just did not live up to what I was hoping for.
Its the right car for me just fitted with the wrong engine!
An M135 will be much more fun, quicker, better cabin, and most importantly will not frustrate the hell out of you will the lack of oomph.
I was waiting till prices reached £10k before buying one, that was until I hired a GT86 for a week and did a lot of driving and was left very disappointed.
Nice chassis, great steering, loved the driving position but the lack of performance was the problem, and its a big problem, when I was in the mood I was driving it flat out using all the revs on country roads and its just way too slow.
It also makes a dreadful sound in the cabin - more like a hairdryer than a performance car I presume it had some kind of sound generator but as it was a hire car I didn't know how to turn it off.
I did enjoy having it for a week, but it just did not live up to what I was hoping for.
Its the right car for me just fitted with the wrong engine!
An M135 will be much more fun, quicker, better cabin, and most importantly will not frustrate the hell out of you will the lack of oomph.
TarpaTow said:
BM everytime.
I'd love to have a 135. They must be epic to drive and no little Japanese car could be anywhere near as good. You've also got German quality, something designed to be the Ultimate Driving Machine and a mega image.
Your neighbours will be totally impressed with the BM, none of them would know what the Toyota was. I used to have a 1 series and work colleagues couldn't believe how good it was and were totally impressed.
Genius. This is literally what so many BMW owners are like.I'd love to have a 135. They must be epic to drive and no little Japanese car could be anywhere near as good. You've also got German quality, something designed to be the Ultimate Driving Machine and a mega image.
Your neighbours will be totally impressed with the BM, none of them would know what the Toyota was. I used to have a 1 series and work colleagues couldn't believe how good it was and were totally impressed.
Good one, very funny.
No pun intended, but I'd imagine the M135i and GT86 are quite different cars? M135i more refined, practical, faster, the GT86 a better steer, less practical, slower but rewards a good driver. Only test drove the GT86 but was left a bit cold by it, so went for something that has some of the best bits of both cars (although it's French and FWD so might not be to everyone's taste).
TarpaTow said:
BM everytime.
I'd love to have a 135. They must be epic to drive and no little Japanese car could be anywhere near as good. You've also got German quality, something designed to be the Ultimate Driving Machine and a mega image.
Your neighbours will be totally impressed with the BM, none of them would know what the Toyota was. I used to have a 1 series and work colleagues couldn't believe how good it was and were totally impressed.
This is exactly why I chose my GT86 over leasing a cheap M135i. The 1 series is mostly owned by the type that thinks they look "cool" driving a white BMW, showing off to the neighbours etc. I'd love to have a 135. They must be epic to drive and no little Japanese car could be anywhere near as good. You've also got German quality, something designed to be the Ultimate Driving Machine and a mega image.
Your neighbours will be totally impressed with the BM, none of them would know what the Toyota was. I used to have a 1 series and work colleagues couldn't believe how good it was and were totally impressed.
I do love my GT86, they have their downsides but if your'e really into being entertained at the wheel... its the one to plump for. I honestly have a smile on my face every time I take it out, even just commuting in it!
Funny thing is, most people who know cars have a 50/50 reaction to it. Love hate. But those who don't know cars that well, they ALWAYS compliment it. Odd really, because 99% of us wouldn't give a 1 series a second look!
LankyLegoHead said:
TarpaTow said:
BM everytime.
I'd love to have a 135. They must be epic to drive and no little Japanese car could be anywhere near as good. You've also got German quality, something designed to be the Ultimate Driving Machine and a mega image.
Your neighbours will be totally impressed with the BM, none of them would know what the Toyota was. I used to have a 1 series and work colleagues couldn't believe how good it was and were totally impressed.
This is exactly why I chose my GT86 over leasing a cheap M135i. The 1 series is mostly owned by the type that thinks they look "cool" driving a white BMW, showing off to the neighbours etc. I'd love to have a 135. They must be epic to drive and no little Japanese car could be anywhere near as good. You've also got German quality, something designed to be the Ultimate Driving Machine and a mega image.
Your neighbours will be totally impressed with the BM, none of them would know what the Toyota was. I used to have a 1 series and work colleagues couldn't believe how good it was and were totally impressed.
I do love my GT86, they have their downsides but if your'e really into being entertained at the wheel... its the one to plump for. I honestly have a smile on my face every time I take it out, even just commuting in it!
Funny thing is, most people who know cars have a 50/50 reaction to it. Love hate. But those who don't know cars that well, they ALWAYS compliment it. Odd really, because 99% of us wouldn't give a 1 series a second look!
I loved the GT86 though : it would have been great with 200hp and without the chocolate brakes. I get more laps out of the M135i, which is quite unexpected if you believe in stereotypes...
veevee said:
750turbo said:
I posted up the issues I had on another thread, believe me, I was really disappointed as driving the car was superb!
From memory, the issues I had were: (Warranty mostly)
With the exception of the media unit these all sound pretty tame to be fair. I definitely don't drive round praying that one of my drop links doesn't have excess play in it, just because I don't have a warranty.From memory, the issues I had were: (Warranty mostly)
- Front wheel bearing
- Media unit
- Steering drop link issue
- Stupid price for pads & discs (Probably me being a tightarse)
- Rattle from OSF and OSR Suspension - I gave up at this point
Discs and pads for modern cars are expensive to begin with, go to a main dealer and the prices are laughable. Buy and fit your own or go to a good indy.
I won't be keeping it much longer
cat with a hat said:
I cant believe people think bmw is a prestigious brand. Their market share for basic rep mobiles is huuge. The 3 seres is one of the most comon cars on the road. Its nearly as hilarious as people thinking vw is a prestigious brand.
Yes, most people think BMW is a prestigious brand. Even their basic rep mobile is considered prestigious. And they sell very well, hence their market share is large.People like prestige, it sells millions of cars.
Why is that hilarious?
Marvtec said:
bitwrx said:
Rjbell said:
TarpaTow said:
BM everytime.
I'd love to have a 135. They must be epic to drive and no little Japanese car could be anywhere near as good. You've also got German quality, something designed to be the Ultimate Driving Machine and a mega image.
Your neighbours will be totally impressed with the BM, none of them would know what the Toyota was. I used to have a 1 series and work colleagues couldn't believe how good it was and were totally impressed.
What a load of bks and the exact comment I would expect from from a German car snob. It's only you guys that give a fk what the neighbours think.I'd love to have a 135. They must be epic to drive and no little Japanese car could be anywhere near as good. You've also got German quality, something designed to be the Ultimate Driving Machine and a mega image.
Your neighbours will be totally impressed with the BM, none of them would know what the Toyota was. I used to have a 1 series and work colleagues couldn't believe how good it was and were totally impressed.
Update:
I've read it again and I'm pretty sure he's taking the piss and I've fell for it
Edited by Rjbell on Sunday 1st May 11:31
Some people are genuinely impressed if a car has an Audi badge, even if its a 10yr old A3 diesel.
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