RE: Audi SQ7: Review
Discussion
Andy20vt said:
No one's suggesting buying a little shopping car to transport the family, but if you read your own list, the Audi A4 at approx 1.5 tonnes is safer than an SUV weighing 2.5 tonnes. I think you'll find that most of the EURO NCAP 5 star stuff in the UK would be similar to the A4. Go figure?
This is an American study - I don't know if you've ever been to the States but almost everyone seems to drive a big V8 SUV. Thankfully in the UK there seems to be far less of them so the likelyhood that you'll crash into one in a smaller car is much reduced. This no doubt skews the US statistics significantly, making them not really relevant to UK driving.
So the only safety upside of SUV's seem to be their weight - but that's also a big downside with reduced stability (greater tendency to roll in an accident). Okay so some SUV's hide their weight well through clever electronics but you can't argue with the laws of physics.
okay here you goThis is an American study - I don't know if you've ever been to the States but almost everyone seems to drive a big V8 SUV. Thankfully in the UK there seems to be far less of them so the likelyhood that you'll crash into one in a smaller car is much reduced. This no doubt skews the US statistics significantly, making them not really relevant to UK driving.
So the only safety upside of SUV's seem to be their weight - but that's also a big downside with reduced stability (greater tendency to roll in an accident). Okay so some SUV's hide their weight well through clever electronics but you can't argue with the laws of physics.
Fair enough, that study was from around the year 2000 though - I wonder how things have changed for cars with the new NCAP ratings - virtually every new car is 5 Star now. I'm sure that crashing into a 4x4 whilst in a car is far worse than crashing into another car, so in that respect the less 4x4's out there then probably safer roads for all of us, the majority of us driving cars anyway. Either that or we all should drive SUV's, but then that would probably be an environmental disaster full stop, plus the current SUV drivers wouldn't feel special or safe any more so would have to turn to Hummers, Unimogs or similar, defeating the whole point.
I love Audi, I have two of them..but any SUV, just as someone said earlier in this thread, is such a dreadful way to travel, add to that it's a diesel as well, Audi should be sent to bed very early for sticking any S or RS badges on any diesels or any "Q" IMHO, a truly dreadful abomination this is
Edited by briang9 on Saturday 7th May 00:03
Bit hot in here isn't it 
To the people questioning why anybody would buy an SUV, the same reason we all have things we don't really need - because we want to and because we can. The world would be a very boring place otherwise, we'd all be in Dacias or on the bus or something..
I personally love these, we went to look at one at the dealers recently and are very tempted indeed, the lower spec models seem to be deprecating as expected and I'm sure this will go the same way. I agree it looks a bit bland/boring/dull compared to the last model but it feels better all round and is a lovely place to be in. I'm very much anti-diesel but the big diesels engine do work well in these applications, it's effortless. Also giving it a hilarious level of torque is just how it should be, diesels are supposed to be torque monsters after all!
To the people questioning why anybody would buy an SUV, the same reason we all have things we don't really need - because we want to and because we can. The world would be a very boring place otherwise, we'd all be in Dacias or on the bus or something..I personally love these, we went to look at one at the dealers recently and are very tempted indeed, the lower spec models seem to be deprecating as expected and I'm sure this will go the same way. I agree it looks a bit bland/boring/dull compared to the last model but it feels better all round and is a lovely place to be in. I'm very much anti-diesel but the big diesels engine do work well in these applications, it's effortless. Also giving it a hilarious level of torque is just how it should be, diesels are supposed to be torque monsters after all!
I have a 7y old TDV8 RR Sport which Ive run from new which is now looked after by some ex main dealer LR blokes down "the Arches"
One must be suspicious that whilst this new Q7 is actually pretty desirable and a technical masterpiece it is unlikely to be able to be worked on by some blokes called Reg and Lee using knives and forks in a lock up just off Albert Square when its out of warranty
numtumfutunch said:
I have a 7y old TDV8 RR Sport which Ive run from new which is now looked after by some ex main dealer LR blokes down "the Arches"
One must be suspicious that whilst this new Q7 is actually pretty desirable and a technical masterpiece it is unlikely to be able to be worked on by some blokes called Reg and Lee using knives and forks in a lock up just off Albert Square when its out of warranty
I suspect with the amount of tech it has, the average Audi dealership will struggle with it as wellOne must be suspicious that whilst this new Q7 is actually pretty desirable and a technical masterpiece it is unlikely to be able to be worked on by some blokes called Reg and Lee using knives and forks in a lock up just off Albert Square when its out of warranty
Well, I see that SUV owners (leasers) are verifying our perceptions of what they're like...
Just as smart and mature as we'd expect: "I can afford it so I'll indulge myself" like a kid deciding what to eat and when to go to sleep for themselves, with the expected consequences. And just like small kids they'll try to make up lame excuses when asked what the hell stupid thing they're up to...
Funny how every SUV owner is too poor to get large items delivered or taxis for when relatives need a ride. And every single one of them schlepps huge items, exactly in the size that they do fit in their barge but absolutely wouldn't fit into an estate. And they all tow things all the time, while simultaneously admitting that they just sit on the motorway alone in them...because huge, tall SUVs are such brilliant choices for driving long distances on the motorway...
People, do what you want but please be honest about it, don't try to make pathetic excuses!
Just as smart and mature as we'd expect: "I can afford it so I'll indulge myself" like a kid deciding what to eat and when to go to sleep for themselves, with the expected consequences. And just like small kids they'll try to make up lame excuses when asked what the hell stupid thing they're up to...
Funny how every SUV owner is too poor to get large items delivered or taxis for when relatives need a ride. And every single one of them schlepps huge items, exactly in the size that they do fit in their barge but absolutely wouldn't fit into an estate. And they all tow things all the time, while simultaneously admitting that they just sit on the motorway alone in them...because huge, tall SUVs are such brilliant choices for driving long distances on the motorway...
People, do what you want but please be honest about it, don't try to make pathetic excuses!
Hamma said:
Well, I see that SUV owners (leasers) are verifying our perceptions of what they're like...
Just as smart and mature as we'd expect: "I can afford it so I'll indulge myself" like a kid deciding what to eat and when to go to sleep for themselves, with the expected consequences. And just like small kids they'll try to make up lame excuses when asked what the hell stupid thing they're up to...
Funny how every SUV owner is too poor to get large items delivered or taxis for when relatives need a ride. And every single one of them schlepps huge items, exactly in the size that they do fit in their barge but absolutely wouldn't fit into an estate. And they all tow things all the time, while simultaneously admitting that they just sit on the motorway alone in them...because huge, tall SUVs are such brilliant choices for driving long distances on the motorway...
People, do what you want but please be honest about it, don't try to make pathetic excuses!
Just thought I'd quote the madness, whatfor edits and stuff.Just as smart and mature as we'd expect: "I can afford it so I'll indulge myself" like a kid deciding what to eat and when to go to sleep for themselves, with the expected consequences. And just like small kids they'll try to make up lame excuses when asked what the hell stupid thing they're up to...
Funny how every SUV owner is too poor to get large items delivered or taxis for when relatives need a ride. And every single one of them schlepps huge items, exactly in the size that they do fit in their barge but absolutely wouldn't fit into an estate. And they all tow things all the time, while simultaneously admitting that they just sit on the motorway alone in them...because huge, tall SUVs are such brilliant choices for driving long distances on the motorway...
People, do what you want but please be honest about it, don't try to make pathetic excuses!
Hamma said:
Well, I see that SUV owners (leasers) are verifying our perceptions of what they're like...
Just as smart and mature as we'd expect: "I can afford it so I'll indulge myself" like a kid deciding what to eat and when to go to sleep for themselves, with the expected consequences. And just like small kids they'll try to make up lame excuses when asked what the hell stupid thing they're up to...
Funny how every SUV owner is too poor to get large items delivered or taxis for when relatives need a ride. And every single one of them schlepps huge items, exactly in the size that they do fit in their barge but absolutely wouldn't fit into an estate. And they all tow things all the time, while simultaneously admitting that they just sit on the motorway alone in them...because huge, tall SUVs are such brilliant choices for driving long distances on the motorway...
People, do what you want but please be honest about it, don't try to make pathetic excuses!
WTF??Just as smart and mature as we'd expect: "I can afford it so I'll indulge myself" like a kid deciding what to eat and when to go to sleep for themselves, with the expected consequences. And just like small kids they'll try to make up lame excuses when asked what the hell stupid thing they're up to...
Funny how every SUV owner is too poor to get large items delivered or taxis for when relatives need a ride. And every single one of them schlepps huge items, exactly in the size that they do fit in their barge but absolutely wouldn't fit into an estate. And they all tow things all the time, while simultaneously admitting that they just sit on the motorway alone in them...because huge, tall SUVs are such brilliant choices for driving long distances on the motorway...
People, do what you want but please be honest about it, don't try to make pathetic excuses!
To answer just one of your points my RR Sport has been driven over 800 miles in one hit (with obvs toilet and fuel stops) many times and is absolutely perfect in that role. It also tows a horse box and keeps me mobile in 3 ft of snow which is essential for my job - the snow bit not the horse. Its also a lovely place to spend a few hours and is surprisingly handy down a B road.
Dont knock them till youve tried one
Having a family but not the means to run a RS6 and a GT3RS, a monster SUV appeals to the last bit of remaining petrolhead in me....
If I'm going to have to be in a car for 10hrs at a time visiting family/friends at the other end of the country, with all the paraphernalia that your average family who enjoys the outdoors possesses (bikes, SUP's, surfboards, snowboards, skis, tents, bikes etc etc), even my A6 Allroad isn't big enough. Frankly, it pisses me off that the rear seats don't recline, or that I cant have my front seat in the position I want without compromising the legroom of the person behind me, or that the bloody thing is so rammed full I have to drive in my NorthFace puffer because there's no room for it anywhere else...
The more space, the more chilled the ride.
The more horsepower, the faster I get there.
Obviously.
If I'm going to have to be in a car for 10hrs at a time visiting family/friends at the other end of the country, with all the paraphernalia that your average family who enjoys the outdoors possesses (bikes, SUP's, surfboards, snowboards, skis, tents, bikes etc etc), even my A6 Allroad isn't big enough. Frankly, it pisses me off that the rear seats don't recline, or that I cant have my front seat in the position I want without compromising the legroom of the person behind me, or that the bloody thing is so rammed full I have to drive in my NorthFace puffer because there's no room for it anywhere else...
The more space, the more chilled the ride.
The more horsepower, the faster I get there.
Obviously.
Edited by jp-sr71 on Thursday 5th May 23:07
Artey said:
The design of current Audi Q7 was based around a need to f
k up a nice looking car to stop it from cannibalising sales of a more upmarket version of the same car i.e. Bentley Bentayga.
I can think of zero people that are cross shopping an Audi Q7 (regardless of looks) with a Bentley. k up a nice looking car to stop it from cannibalising sales of a more upmarket version of the same car i.e. Bentley Bentayga.In other more horrifying news, my poor little eyes have just been pointed in the direction of this. It isn't even one of these S models it's a f
king 3.0 TDI. Isn't it truly horrendous? 
Hmm, I drove a Range Rover for the first time the other week, from Gatwick back to Cheshire. It was okay on the motorway, comfortable enough sure but just a bit wallowy and unresponsive when compared to even a fairly average family car. All a bit tiresome really, not the best tool for the job for sure. Give me a 5 series estate any day for serious mile munching, comfort plus enjoyment.
patch5674 said:
I can think of zero people that are cross shopping an Audi Q7 (regardless of looks) with a Bentley.
In other more horrifying news, my poor little eyes have just been pointed in the direction of this. It isn't even one of these S models it's a fking 3.0 TDI. Isn't it truly horrendous?
It looks like they let the kids loose with the crayons. In other more horrifying news, my poor little eyes have just been pointed in the direction of this. It isn't even one of these S models it's a f
king 3.0 TDI. Isn't it truly horrendous? I just don't get German design. (but I drive an Audi. Jeez.
) patch5674 said:
I can think of zero people that are cross shopping an Audi Q7 (regardless of looks) with a Bentley.
In other more horrifying news, my poor little eyes have just been pointed in the direction of this. It isn't even one of these S models it's a fking 3.0 TDI. Isn't it truly horrendous?
Indeed, just the point I was making in my earlier post, but this one is even more bonkers, you would need to pay ABT to make it look even worse.In other more horrifying news, my poor little eyes have just been pointed in the direction of this. It isn't even one of these S models it's a f
king 3.0 TDI. Isn't it truly horrendous? If I could afford it, I would get this SQ7. Ticks all of the boxes for me..
Enough interior space to easily fit two downhill mountain bikes without taking wheels off. Roofrack capability for 4 kayaks. Room for 4 people to travel in comfort on a fortnight long trans-continental kayaking and biking trip, with all the gear for camping and both sports (and that's literally a shedload). This could take a hitch and I could carry the bikes on there while carrying the kayaks on the roof. Travelling by myself, I would be able to carry my creekboat kayak inside and not have to bother about tying it up!
Yes I could fit all that gear in the back of e.g. a crewcab LWB Vito, but that wouldn't have anything like the same comfort level or pace.
I'm possibly moving jobs to Germany over the next year or so, and I'll have to get myself a new vehicle if I do, and I could get one of these. Other options on the shortlist for me are a C6 RS6, 4.2 tdi Q7, and C7 A6/allroad biturbo. Lots of travelling around the continent biking and kayaking and sightseeing, and I want something fast and comfy.. It'll depends on the job negotiations though!
Still, I do like the SQ7 as a new owner's car with warranty etc, wouldn't like to be a 3rd owner at 10 years old though. Suggests that depreciation may be high on this model.
Enough interior space to easily fit two downhill mountain bikes without taking wheels off. Roofrack capability for 4 kayaks. Room for 4 people to travel in comfort on a fortnight long trans-continental kayaking and biking trip, with all the gear for camping and both sports (and that's literally a shedload). This could take a hitch and I could carry the bikes on there while carrying the kayaks on the roof. Travelling by myself, I would be able to carry my creekboat kayak inside and not have to bother about tying it up!
Yes I could fit all that gear in the back of e.g. a crewcab LWB Vito, but that wouldn't have anything like the same comfort level or pace.
I'm possibly moving jobs to Germany over the next year or so, and I'll have to get myself a new vehicle if I do, and I could get one of these. Other options on the shortlist for me are a C6 RS6, 4.2 tdi Q7, and C7 A6/allroad biturbo. Lots of travelling around the continent biking and kayaking and sightseeing, and I want something fast and comfy.. It'll depends on the job negotiations though!
Still, I do like the SQ7 as a new owner's car with warranty etc, wouldn't like to be a 3rd owner at 10 years old though. Suggests that depreciation may be high on this model.
kapiteinlangzaam said:
Is it only me that is slightly disappointed with the headline BHP figure....?
4.0L twin turbo V8, and only 430bhp? Ford turn out the same from the 5.0 NA Coyote.
Although I presume its only a remap away from 550+
You do realise that the Coyote engine is a petrol engine, and that the engine in the SQ7 is a diesel?4.0L twin turbo V8, and only 430bhp? Ford turn out the same from the 5.0 NA Coyote.
Although I presume its only a remap away from 550+
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