RE: Aston Martin V12 Vantage S Manual

RE: Aston Martin V12 Vantage S Manual

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WCZ

10,533 posts

195 months

Wednesday 18th May 2016
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405dogvan said:
There's something VERY special about Vantages - Harris compared the (rather pricier) GT12 to a 991 GT3RS (Gen1) and 650S and whilst you can tell the Aston's tech (esp. gearbox) is going out-of-date/it's not really competing with the 2 hyperwotsits, it's clearly the car which would be chosen by the person who wasn't looking for a penis extension/ego massage and actually just wanted the best device for turning fuel into noise and sideways fun.

and this is 100K cheaper and slightly less shouty to look at (I rather like it, tho I still think that bonnet louvring is WAY too Halfords - I assume it's necessary tho?>)

and that noise - how is it legal to make a car which makes that noise - the other 2 sound like superbikes at best, that Aston's a car ladies and gentlemen...

https://youtu.be/58j0Mmj41m0?t=386

Edited by 405dogvan on Wednesday 18th May 02:31
this isn't even that different than the gt12 is it? the GT12 is 6% lighter and has 3% more power, or something like that

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 18th May 2016
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Glorious.

Malachimon

477 posts

126 months

Wednesday 18th May 2016
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This car desperately needs a styling update, as gorgeous as the first few years were (as in the clean AMV8 when it was new), this car has been left behind by the newer models such as the Vanquish and DB11

Impasse

15,099 posts

242 months

Wednesday 18th May 2016
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Malachimon said:
This car desperately needs a styling update, as gorgeous as the first few years were (as in the clean AMV8 when it was new), this car has been left behind by the newer models such as the Vanquish and DB11
The DB11 isn't even the showrooms yet, but it's probably a fair assumption to suggest that AM have an updated body and styling shape in the pipeline for the Vantage size of car. In the meantime these runout editions are exciting enough to maintain interest and given the lack of any new bodyshell or chassis manufacturing requirements they will be a nice little earner for Gaydon too.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 18th May 2016
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Malachimon said:
This car desperately needs a styling update, as gorgeous as the first few years were (as in the clean AMV8 when it was new), this car has been left behind by the newer models such as the Vanquish and DB11
I think it's aged amazingly well. The proportions were so right. I bet if you took an early vantage, 99.9% of people wouldn't know if it was 1 year old or 10.

p1stonhead

25,549 posts

168 months

Wednesday 18th May 2016
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fblm said:
Malachimon said:
This car desperately needs a styling update, as gorgeous as the first few years were (as in the clean AMV8 when it was new), this car has been left behind by the newer models such as the Vanquish and DB11
I think it's aged amazingly well. The proportions were so right. I bet if you took an early vantage, 99.9% of people wouldn't know if it was 1 year old or 10.
I agree. Still think its one of the best looking cars out there. Always double take when one goes past me.

soad

32,903 posts

177 months

Wednesday 18th May 2016
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drmark said:
What's with the MG Rover orange bits?
Nothing worse than a grey AM imho. boxedin

twinturban

241 posts

123 months

Wednesday 18th May 2016
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Thanks for the detailed explanation Dan. I know you have driven manuals recently, my point was that the article sounds like the gearbox was a disappointment and also that you hadn't. I was hoping neither would be the case!

I must say though the previous 6 speed box was lovely in the original V12 Vantage, I was fortunate to own one for a few years. It remains the nicest cable operated gearchange I have used. I like to think this is something that Aston do very well, along with progressive, feelsome CC brakes that seemed to confound their rivals for many years. So hopefully

I've still never heard anyone describe how the new S engine compares to the 510bhp version. Does the car feel any faster than the early V12 Vantage? Does it feel more powerful at higher revs or is it an incremental increase across the rev range? It sounds identical on video, does it sound any different in reality?

I miss my V12V but was never tempted by a paddle shift 'S', this though ought to be something very special.

Zod

35,295 posts

259 months

Wednesday 18th May 2016
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soad said:
drmark said:
What's with the MG Rover orange bits?
Nothing worse than a grey AM imho. boxedin
There's no such thing; they're all silver. wink

petop

2,141 posts

167 months

Wednesday 18th May 2016
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Zod said:
soad said:
drmark said:
What's with the MG Rover orange bits?
Nothing worse than a grey AM imho. boxedin
There's no such thing; they're all silver. wink
Stop it!! We've already had the "Astons should only be silver/grey" battle thread!! wink

matt5791

381 posts

127 months

Wednesday 18th May 2016
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Absolutely fantastic to see a performance car with a NORMAL manual gearbox. And a dogleg arrangement by the looks of things - superb.

DPSFleet

192 posts

162 months

Wednesday 18th May 2016
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Terrific car and THAT noise. Presumably it's possible to actually buy one too! A real car.....(unlike that well known German make).

Malachimon

477 posts

126 months

Wednesday 18th May 2016
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fblm said:
I think it's aged amazingly well. The proportions were so right. I bet if you took an early vantage, 99.9% of people wouldn't know if it was 1 year old or 10.
I agree it's aged well but it still needs an update to keep it fresh and in the limelight, it will take some time for it to look "old"

sideways man

1,319 posts

138 months

Wednesday 18th May 2016
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Another ex-sunbeam lotus owner here,complete with the ZF dog leg 'box. Once completely comfortable with it,which I admit took a few months due to minimal use,decided the shift pattern was a brilliant idea.
Thank you Aston Martin for giving us a fast bruiser with manual transmission.
Having driven a DB9 v12 on a track day, an Aston is most definitely on my lottery garage list.

mattf93

1,273 posts

116 months

Wednesday 18th May 2016
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Dan Trent said:



To expand on my previous and quite wordy posts here are a couple of pictures that hopefully flesh out the points I was making!

And as far as the Halfords colour scheme goes it is optional with the Sport-Plus pack. And the other combos sound nicer, comprising Speedway White/orange, Allora Green/yellow, Jet Black/silver or Skyfall Silver/white.

Cheers,

Dan


Edited by Dan Trent on Wednesday 18th May 11:28
Can you 'Q' one of these v12vs Manuals? As If I was putting my hard earned cash into one- none of those really are what Id want... The lipstick and side skirts in a different colour is just odd, skirts would be cool in carbon (if mega expensive)

tubs

73 posts

208 months

Wednesday 18th May 2016
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That is the last PROPER sounding V12. Ferrari's & Lamborghini's are just so obviously synthesised/manufactured to almost natural...and to be honest just sound to fake.

aeropilot

34,639 posts

228 months

Wednesday 18th May 2016
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JPF40 said:
XJ40 said:
Yes I don't understand the orange/yellow painted bits. I can only think that it's supposed to be akin to motorsport livery, is that really what's required on such a classy, upmarket road car? I'd tick the delete box for those...
Ordered mine with the sports pack in Alloro Green and deleted the yellow, same goes for the interior!
Classy..... effectively Aston Racing Green, which really is the only colour to have an Aston in IMHO thumbup


AreOut

3,658 posts

162 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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why not just transferring 6 speed manual from another aston model if they couldn't come with something better?! This transmission is not really going together with a big V12...

Andyt25

1,182 posts

249 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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I so want this car it hurts.....I've been in the original one but never driven one...That big engine in that small car just makes it such an occasion.....Big thrills and smiles.....and such a great looking car......Still think its the best looking shape on the road and looks great from any angle.....After all these years it never fails to turn my head....How they will replace it for something even more beautiful will be a challenge.

Pennyroyal Tea

26,140 posts

215 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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Dan Trent said:
Skyfall Silver
Jesus. Really?