RE: Jag's knuckle sandwich to the Germans: PH Blog

[ORD]

Not sure what it is called, but I think it is 'M-Sport Adaptive'.

[Cotic]

ORD said:

Not sure what it is called, but I think it is 'M-Sport Adaptive'.

Yep - that's the intelligent system. Great, but an expensive option.

[Wills2]

Cotic said:

ORD said:

Not sure what it is called, but I think it is 'M-Sport Adaptive'.

Yep - that's the intelligent system. Great, but an expensive option.

No that's fairly cheap £500 option on a 3 series, I think you mean adaptive drive which is/was an option on the F10/11 5 series and 6 series and is about £3000 it combines adaptive dampers and adaptive roll bars and that is very good.

[Zod]

ORD said:

You cannot have driven any modern saloon car for some time.

Standard suspension in a 3 Series or C Class is intolerable to anyone with even the slightest interest in or appreciation for dynamics. It's like driving a boat.

I drove a boggo 320d around the mountain roads in the Norh of Major a a few weeks ago. It handled very well. I enjoyed driving it.

[ORD]

Zod said:

ORD said:

You cannot have driven any modern saloon car for some time.

Standard suspension in a 3 Series or C Class is intolerable to anyone with even the slightest interest in or appreciation for dynamics. It's like driving a boat.

I drove a boggo 320d around the mountain roads in the Norh of Major a a few weeks ago. It handled very well. I enjoyed driving it.

See my later post. They handle worst when NOT driven hard (i.e. the kind of driving a normal saloon or estate can expect almost all of the time).

[Zod]

ORD said:

Zod said:

ORD said:

You cannot have driven any modern saloon car for some time.

Standard suspension in a 3 Series or C Class is intolerable to anyone with even the slightest interest in or appreciation for dynamics. It's like driving a boat.

I drove a boggo 320d around the mountain roads in the North of Majorca a few weeks ago. It handled very well. I enjoyed driving it.

See my later post. They handle worst when NOT driven hard (i.e. the kind of driving a normal saloon or estate can expect almost all of the time).

Well, around town or on the motorway, I'm not sure it matters that much.

[ORD]

Sure it does. Boaty suspension makes me feel slightly unwell and inspires no confidence at all.

A lot may depend on usage. I find most A roads impossible to drive hard (as that would require very illegal speeds), so I spend a fair amount of time driving nice-ish roads but not with any commitment. Any road that could comfortably be cruised at 85mph and driven hard at over 100mph puts me into 'pootle mode', but I still want the car to feel attached to the road when I am driving smoothly and slowly.

[spreadsheet monkey]

anonymous said:

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The faux carbon fibre is not mandatory. Other interior finishes are much nicer.