RE: Honda NSX: Review

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Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

247 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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jason61c said:
you can see all the badge queens coming out of their shell now can't you. "its just a Honda"!
What you really need is a "Lexus". Oh, I see you've already got one! biggrin

Anyway, I'll see your Honda and raise you an Acura - which is the way most of these cars will be branded.

leglessAlex

5,473 posts

142 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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torchy6 said:
Turquoise said:
Heavy.
Ugly.
It's a Honda.
Synthesised engine note.

Just don't see the appeal at all.
THIS!
Out of interest, why is the fact it's a Honda a negative thing? They've produced some great cars in the past, and they're starting to focus on drivers cars once again.

spodrod

224 posts

151 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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I find the "it's a Honda" thing weird; the same was said about the original at the time, but now everyone professes to love it; Honda badge or not.

When I first saw these I was really underwhelmed. More I look at it, the more I like it. I also applaud Honda for taking a slightly different approach.

R-o9omm

3 posts

105 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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Well done Honda, now bring back another legend one that 'many' can get their hands on...CRX.

Beedub

1,959 posts

227 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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Martin_Hx said:
Its a shame about the exhaust speaker jobbie but all in all i think its a cracking machine
great car , id love one, but the speaker played exhaust note is WAYYYY to much.

PunterCam

1,073 posts

196 months

Wednesday 13th July 2016
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Terminator X said:
CH loved it, nuff said. Junior 918.

TX.
Lets be honest, Harris loves everything.

The interior is ok I suppose, just like an accord, and the outside is also ok. The proportions will give it presence like all mid-engined cars, but it's not really attractive. The engine would neither attract me to or put me off... Ach, it's all just so bland and boring! Automatic, an engine/gearbox combo designed to go fast and nothing else, styling which is probably functional enough but not inspired, an interior which will work well but will do nothing more.. Getting on for 2 tons with a passenger in the car. Just no, thanks.

It's a shame, because being a Honda nobody gives a st. It's not showing off, it's just a Honda. Sadly the car misses the mark.

And what would this car feel like with 300kgs stripped out? What, you mean without the drivetrain? Very slow. That's like saying "imagine this car with a veyron engine and weighing less than a 1000kgs". It's not tantalising, it's stupid.

Edited by PunterCam on Wednesday 13th July 05:05

patmahe

5,752 posts

205 months

Wednesday 13th July 2016
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Judging by the article and the description of how it drives, Honda have done it again, the original NSX rattled cages and this looks capable of doing the same. Its heavy yes, but is that heaviness offset by the driveability it brings? Would love to try one out. I do think it looks a lot better in the real world than it did on a show stand too.

I'd definitely be test driving one if I was in the market for a supercar, sadly I am not frown

K&L

23 posts

212 months

Wednesday 13th July 2016
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It looks good. Nice tech, but too heavy.
Also, performance wise; not quite as quick as the Nissan GTR (now in its 10th year).
Underwhelmed.

Dave Hedgehog

14,568 posts

205 months

Wednesday 13th July 2016
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spodrod said:
I find the "it's a Honda" thing weird; the same was said about the original at the time, but now everyone professes to love it; Honda badge or not.

When I first saw these I was really underwhelmed. More I look at it, the more I like it. I also applaud Honda for taking a slightly different approach.
We live in a consumer based marketing led world, brands live on a prestige ladder. The top of the auto prestige ladder is occupied by companies like porsche and bently the bottom by the likes of vauxhall and dacia. Honda are at best in the middle of ladder.

Now for some people this will not matter, but for many when they are looking at handing over 130-150k for a car they will look at companies like porsche and mclaren first regardless of how much a technical show case the NSX is.

AW111

9,674 posts

134 months

Wednesday 13th July 2016
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Beedub said:
great car , id love one, but the speaker played exhaust note is WAYYYY to much.
Reading comprehension fail.

Sound is "piped in" to the cabin, but not generated by speakers. They leave that to the "premium" German marques.

macky17

2,212 posts

190 months

Wednesday 13th July 2016
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Of course it would be about 300kg lighter without the hybrid element but what I'd like to know is how much cheaper it would be. Imagine this car at £90k up against regular 911s...

smilo996

2,795 posts

171 months

Wednesday 13th July 2016
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Another great article but another Dan article, another reference to the Porschar 911. Yawn.

Why not put a Nismo engine in and crank up the electricity. They it would be in hypercar territory for almost no extra cash or investment.

Turquoise

1,457 posts

98 months

Wednesday 13th July 2016
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NISMO is Nissan, not Honda.

wemorgan

3,578 posts

179 months

Wednesday 13th July 2016
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macky17 said:
Of course it would be about 300kg lighter without the hybrid element but what I'd like to know is how much cheaper it would be.
The future for mainstream cars are hybrid and EV. Honda most likely wanted a halo model that demonstrated their technology.

Dan Trent

1,866 posts

169 months

Wednesday 13th July 2016
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Just in case it wasn't entirely clear...

the article said:
...eager to rev out to its 7,500rpm peak, the sound channelled from an additional intake chamber and into the cabin via speaker-like exits behind the seats.....
This is NOT noise over the speakers; the duct that channels the mechanical sound from what was described to us as 'an additional throttle body' and into the cabin runs the width of the rear bulkhead behind the seats and has perforated grilles beside the B-pillar that *look* like speaker grilles. They're not though - I'll try and get the cutaway image from Honda but it clearly shows a pipe running the full width of the car with 'horns' at each end, covered by the grilles. Similar tech to that used by many others, including BMW, Ford and Porsche ( the 991 has a similar resonator system) but, definitively, not synthesised, artificial or electronic. Contrived, yes! But not 'false'.

Cheers,

Dan

Edited by Dan Trent on Wednesday 13th July 10:38

Dan Trent

1,866 posts

169 months

Wednesday 13th July 2016
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Right! Found the page in the handout of the tech presentation. Apologies for the quality of the scan but hopefully it shows what I mean.

Cheers!

Dan


HighwayStar

4,278 posts

145 months

Wednesday 13th July 2016
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smilo996 said:
Another great article but another Dan article, another reference to the Porschar 911. Yawn.

Why not put a Nismo engine in and crank up the electricity. They it would be in hypercar territory for almost no extra cash or investment.
Oh dear.... are you proposing a Honda/Nissan joint venture? wink

Dan Trent

1,866 posts

169 months

Wednesday 13th July 2016
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smilo996 said:
Another great article but another Dan article, another reference to the Porschar 911. Yawn.
banghead The long-established benchmark product at this price point with comparable power, four-wheel drive and spread of usability and performance by which the NSX will be judged should be ignored just because it has a Porsche badge on it? Please. You may have noticed I also compared it to a couple of other rival products with similar performance and pricetags. Which aren't P******s.

Dan

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

247 months

Wednesday 13th July 2016
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^^^^ This. 911 is the big seller so can't be ignored. A number of us have already said we see the McLarens as a closer rival - both the Honda and McLaren appear more "exotic" than 911.

stephen300o

15,464 posts

229 months

Wednesday 13th July 2016
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Similar to the other hacks views, nice drivers car despite the weight. Guessing as with the GTR the weight will make itself felt further down the line of ownership. A silly car really considering the direction intended, making it so obese from such small dimensions, lunacy. Even I'd take the McLaren.