The Best ///M/Barge/General Rant/Look at this/O/T(Vol XVIII)

The Best ///M/Barge/General Rant/Look at this/O/T(Vol XVIII)

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ATM

18,300 posts

220 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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zippyonline said:
ATM said:
Slept in the car - is this doable with back seats down - as in do they fold flat?

What else can you tell me about yours? How long have you had it, is it an m sport, are you still using run flats - anything else?
I slept in a bivvy bag outside the car - I have previous sleeping in cars, and you want some kind of ventilation (i.e. window deflector things and the windows down a crack). The rear seats don't fold flat - although removing the bottom seat cushion isn't too bad (you have to undo the middle seatbelt latch with a T50 torx) and I suspect they might go flat then.
You probably could sleep in the car at a pinch, but with lots of decent outdoor kit these days, it's comfier outside it.

I've had it getting on almost a year, it's on 191k miles now, it's an M sport with the birds b3 suspension kit which now I've changed all the bushings on the rear end (another long story!), is quite settled - but not overly harsh. No runflats for me, it came with as set of the standard 18s MV3's, but one had a crack, so have some 17s on it using a michelin PS4s on the front..vreds on the back for now after I had an interesting shredding the pilotsports on the rear in 700 miles incident - I couldn't stump up for another set without knowing I'd sorted a problem.

Anyway, lots of other niggles and problems aside, now I've sorted pretty much everything (all DIY on a driveway) - it's a great car on a long run, but with just enough character with the engine to sling it down the wider faster B roads (which is where I often end up when mountain biking). I did think I wanted an E61 550i manual - but they were twice as much money, and this has the N52 engine and I think actually suits me better size wise and for what I'm doing really. I’m getting about just over 30mpg on a run (cruise set to warp factor 8.5 typically), and below 20mpg on a thrash – averaging out at about 27.5mpg overall.

I might start a thread on it if people are interested? I’ve had enough parts of it apart to make it vaguely interesting now – and spent about the same as the purchase price on parts!
Yeah do that. I started the now famous [maybe not] E61 V8 bearding thread. You need to start a 330i / 335i E91 thread. I've started reading some stuff about hydraulic bushes on the LCI and its got me perplexed.

rayyan171

1,294 posts

94 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Would love to start an E70 bearding thread if there is interest? Or are they too housewife for PH? biggrin

ATM

18,300 posts

220 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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rayyan171 said:
Would love to start an E70 bearding thread if there is interest? Or are they too housewife for PH? biggrin
Is that a Nokia?

rayyan171

1,294 posts

94 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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ATM said:
rayyan171 said:
Would love to start an E70 bearding thread if there is interest? Or are they too housewife for PH? biggrin
Is that a Nokia?
No laugh

It is the previous generation X5, arguably the better one, and surprisingly fast cars too.
Although I had an E70 nokia, they were quite good, but had nothing on my E95, they were the beast of Nokia's back then!

Cheburator mk2

2,995 posts

200 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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rayyan171 said:
No laugh

It is the previous generation X5, arguably the better one, and surprisingly fast cars too.
Although I had an E70 nokia, they were quite good, but had nothing on my E95, they were the beast of Nokia's back then!
The X5 E53 4.8iS still is the quickest normally aspirated X5 ever made and also is quicker than any E70 bar the 50i and the X5M. Easy mid 9s at the Ring with it smile

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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ATM said:
eezeh said:
ATM said:
eezeh said:
rayyan171 said:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

Very saucy car, love the individual interior. Not in a position to buy but we are hoping to get one soon, September time possibly.
Old-school radar detector too, probably of no use now.
I'll admit to keeping an eye on those for sale. Prices seem a bit all over the place if you ask me.
Prices are stupid here however I really don't believe they are of any use now seeing as a lot of officers now in the UK and Europe use laser guns now. I believe GATSO cameras are still radar?
You can buy laser detectors but by the time you pick up the laser it's too late anyway, they will have your speed faster than you can blink.
The only think of any use now is a laser jammer which is a whole different ball game.
Oops I was talking about E46 M cars.
Well.. thats embarrassing. getmecoat

rayyan171

1,294 posts

94 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Cheburator mk2 said:
The X5 E53 4.8iS still is the quickest normally aspirated X5 ever made and also is quicker than any E70 bar the 50i and the X5M. Easy mid 9s at the Ring with it smile
How much power were they pushing? The E70 4.8i pushed 333hp, did the 4.8iS push the same amount of power?

p1stonhead

25,556 posts

168 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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rayyan171 said:
Cheburator mk2 said:
The X5 E53 4.8iS still is the quickest normally aspirated X5 ever made and also is quicker than any E70 bar the 50i and the X5M. Easy mid 9s at the Ring with it smile
How much power were they pushing? The E70 4.8i pushed 333hp, did the 4.8iS push the same amount of power?
360bhp I believe.


Edited by p1stonhead on Tuesday 25th July 06:59

ATM

18,300 posts

220 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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p1stonhead said:
rayyan171 said:
Cheburator mk2 said:
The X5 E53 4.8iS still is the quickest normally aspirated X5 ever made and also is quicker than any E70 bar the 50i and the X5M. Easy mid 9s at the Ring with it smile
How much power were they pushing? The E70 4.8i pushed 333hp, did the 4.8iS push the same amount of power?
360bhp I believe.


Edited by p1stonhead on Tuesday 25th July 06:59
If I was to buy a 4.8iS it would just be for the noise. Makes my 550i sound like a hair dryer.

zippyonline

354 posts

167 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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ATM said:
Yeah do that. I started the now famous [maybe not] E61 V8 bearding thread. You need to start a 330i / 335i E91 thread. I've started reading some stuff about hydraulic bushes on the LCI and its got me perplexed.
Join in the fun here: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Crook

6,782 posts

225 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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Afternoon

I can empathise with the sentiment of ironing out the creases when pressing an older car into regular service...

If anybody is in or around the Harpenden area tomorrow, it's Classics on the common from 2-8pm. Usually a good and incredibly varied selection of cars and bikes.

rayyan171

1,294 posts

94 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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p1stonhead said:
rayyan171 said:
Cheburator mk2 said:
The X5 E53 4.8iS still is the quickest normally aspirated X5 ever made and also is quicker than any E70 bar the 50i and the X5M. Easy mid 9s at the Ring with it smile
How much power were they pushing? The E70 4.8i pushed 333hp, did the 4.8iS push the same amount of power?
360bhp I believe.


Edited by p1stonhead on Tuesday 25th July 06:59
eek that's frightening for a SUV. There was a one off V12 Le Mans version of the X5 that had the CSI V12 or something similar and BMW. The classic X5 really did popularise the SUV, some still sell for £10k easily.

4941cc

25,867 posts

207 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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rayyan171 said:
eek that's frightening for a SUV. There was a one off V12 Le Mans version of the X5 that had the CSI V12 or something similar and BMW. The classic X5 really did popularise the SUV, some still sell for £10k easily.
It was the actual Motorsport S70/2 (McLaren F1 and V12 LMR) engine - different unit overall to the M70/S70/M73 used in BMW's road cars - without the restrictors of the race engine - so made around 700bhp. There's a video kicking around of it doing the 'ring, worth it for the noise alone... cloud9

rayyan171

1,294 posts

94 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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4941cc said:
rayyan171 said:
eek that's frightening for a SUV. There was a one off V12 Le Mans version of the X5 that had the CSI V12 or something similar and BMW. The classic X5 really did popularise the SUV, some still sell for £10k easily.
It was the actual Motorsport S70/2 (McLaren F1 and V12 LMR) engine - different unit overall to the M70/S70/M73 used in BMW's road cars - without the restrictors of the race engine - so made around 700bhp. There's a video kicking around of it doing the 'ring, worth it for the noise alone... cloud9
Yep, absolutely astonishing vehicle with a crazy sound. Wonder if someone has their hands on it? It could be in the underground storage for M in Munich or it could be kicking around somewhere lick

Did someone shoehorn the V10 into a E70 X5?

p1stonhead

25,556 posts

168 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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rayyan171 said:
p1stonhead said:
rayyan171 said:
Cheburator mk2 said:
The X5 E53 4.8iS still is the quickest normally aspirated X5 ever made and also is quicker than any E70 bar the 50i and the X5M. Easy mid 9s at the Ring with it smile
How much power were they pushing? The E70 4.8i pushed 333hp, did the 4.8iS push the same amount of power?
360bhp I believe.


Edited by p1stonhead on Tuesday 25th July 06:59
eek that's frightening for a SUV.
Isn't the current X5M something like 550bhp?

ferrisbueller

29,341 posts

228 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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4941cc said:
rayyan171 said:
eek that's frightening for a SUV. There was a one off V12 Le Mans version of the X5 that had the CSI V12 or something similar and BMW. The classic X5 really did popularise the SUV, some still sell for £10k easily.
It was the actual Motorsport S70/2 (McLaren F1 and V12 LMR) engine - different unit overall to the M70/S70/M73 used in BMW's road cars - without the restrictors of the race engine - so made around 700bhp. There's a video kicking around of it doing the 'ring, worth it for the noise alone... cloud9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5HZ7AEG0TQ

rayyan171

1,294 posts

94 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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p1stonhead said:
rayyan171 said:
p1stonhead said:
rayyan171 said:
Cheburator mk2 said:
The X5 E53 4.8iS still is the quickest normally aspirated X5 ever made and also is quicker than any E70 bar the 50i and the X5M. Easy mid 9s at the Ring with it smile
How much power were they pushing? The E70 4.8i pushed 333hp, did the 4.8iS push the same amount of power?
360bhp I believe.


Edited by p1stonhead on Tuesday 25th July 06:59
eek that's frightening for a SUV.
Isn't the current X5M something like 550bhp?
Yeah, but by 2009 there were many established performance SUV's. In 2004, that was a lot for a car, range rovers weren't as powerful etc.

ferrisbueller

29,341 posts

228 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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Was the Cayenne not 450 brake?

rayyan171

1,294 posts

94 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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ferrisbueller said:
Was the Cayenne not 450 brake?
Yes, however the price range for the cayenne GTS/Turbo was £80k+ at the time, whereas the 4.8iS was £50k at the time. There was a massive price difference, so that performance in an SUV for that money was impressive.

Cheburator mk2

2,995 posts

200 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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rayyan171 said:
Yes, however the price range for the cayenne GTS/Turbo was £80k+ at the time, whereas the 4.8iS was £50k at the time. There was a massive price difference, so that performance in an SUV for that money was impressive.
The 4.8iS is quicker than the 1st generation Cayenne GTS too smile In terms of VFM at the time it was unbeatable. Only the Cayenne Turbo was quicker at nearly 2x the cost while options were added. The new X5M can easily tip the cost scales at over £100k so the VFM aspect to it is almost non-existent. Mind you, they make a cracking 2nd hand buy compared to a Cayenne...

And lastly, the 4.8iS is worth it for the sound alone. Don't think BMW have done another V8 with a better sound since...

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