The Best ///M/Barge/General Rant/Look at this/O/T(Vol XVIII)

[rayyan171]

Cheburator mk2 said:

rayyan171 said:

Yes, however the price range for the cayenne GTS/Turbo was £80k+ at the time, whereas the 4.8iS was £50k at the time. There was a massive price difference, so that performance in an SUV for that money was impressive.

The 4.8iS is quicker than the 1st generation Cayenne GTS too In terms of VFM at the time it was unbeatable. Only the Cayenne Turbo was quicker at nearly 2x the cost while options were added. The new X5M can easily tip the cost scales at over £100k so the VFM aspect to it is almost non-existent. Mind you, they make a cracking 2nd hand buy compared to a Cayenne...

And lastly, the 4.8iS is worth it for the sound alone. Don't think BMW have done another V8 with a better sound since...

Definitely, exactly the point I am trying to get across. Seems to be a massive surcharge on a car that is basically a Volkswagen Touareg underneath!

On the other hand, I'd say a used X5M is a very good buy as well, some are now at £30k and there isn't many cars out there that can offer that much practicality for that amount of performance (555hp!)

[ChocolateFrog]

Not sure where to put this.

Cheap EP3 type r

Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/112496653330

Tatty bodywork and just look at the steering wheel! But fair enough it's very cheap.

However MOT history makes interesting reading. 12 July 17 it failed on corroded sills and seat belt anchors. 13 July 17 it passed.

What chance it's been covered in undersea, bit worrying.

[ferrisbueller]

fk. That.

I like a Honda but I wouldn't touch that with a stty stick.

[alpha channel]

I like the EP3 myself but the steering wheel looks like it's been chewed on (got hungry stuck in traffic?), looks like they had a punt at the seat bolster as well (roughage probably) and done a bit of braille parking on all four corners. Put together the MOT history, the gnawed on interior & ropey as hell exterior what's the chances that the oily bits look like a collection of parts rather than an actual engine?

It appears to be the Japanese version of this -

[4941cc]

p1stonhead said:

Isn't the current X5M something like 550bhp?

F85 (X5M) and F86 (X6M) are 575PS / 569bhp & 750Nm / 553 lb ft.

Previous generation were 555PS / 547bhp & 680Nm / 500lb ft.

GLE 63 S AMG is 585PS / 800Nm / 590 lb ft...

[louiebaby]

I hadn't realised that the Z1 had become a collectors item too:



http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C883435

About 7/10s of the price of a Defender...

They still appeal, but I don't really know why...

[Leins]

I do like Z1s a lot (despite not really fitting), and it's the sort of car I'd love to put away in the garage for those 3 sunny days we have every year

Not as much as one of these RLEs though, I really need something with bespoke steering wheel and wheelcaps!

[p1stonhead]

Z1 is just cool. It was the first toy car I had as a kid. I probably didn't even realise all car doors didn't drop down.

Want one.

[braddo]

dumab said:

Back in business.

Nice one! Did it take much to get back on the road?

Of course it just had to rain.

[ATM]

p1stonhead said:

Z1 is just cool. It was the first toy car I had as a kid. I probably didn't even realise all car doors didn't drop down.

Want one.

Do your car doors not drop down?

[p1stonhead]

ATM said:

p1stonhead said:

Z1 is just cool. It was the first toy car I had as a kid. I probably didn't even realise all car doors didn't drop down.

Want one.

Do your car doors not drop down?

[barchetta_boy]

Mine go up at least!

[ATM]

This car price bubble is even affecting modern dog vans.

E61 M5
2010
63,000 miles

£29,995

Its not even got any interesting colours going on, unless you're a funeral director.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...

[p1stonhead]

ATM said:

This car price bubble is even affecting modern dog vans.

E61 M5
2010
63,000 miles

£29,995

Its not even got any interesting colours going on, unless you're a funeral director.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...

A brave man who would buy that from anyone other than BMW with a comprehesive warranty IMO.

[louiebaby]

ATM said:

This car price bubble is even affecting modern dog vans.

E61 M5
2010
63,000 miles

£29,995

Its not even got any interesting colours going on, unless you're a funeral director.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...

Are those the M6 alloys? They're horrible.

I'd love that, on the proper (normal) M5 wheels, with walnut dash inserts please.

[illmonkey]

dumab said:

louiebaby said:

Are those the M6 alloys? They're horrible.

I'd love that, on the proper (normal) M5 wheels, with walnut dash inserts please.

Facelift M5 wheels iirc

Get out, those are M6 wheels.

[louiebaby]

illmonkey said:

dumab said:

louiebaby said:

Are those the M6 alloys? They're horrible.

I'd love that, on the proper (normal) M5 wheels, with walnut dash inserts please.

Facelift M5 wheels iirc

Get out, those are M6 wheels.

<smug>

[illmonkey]

dumab said:

illmonkey said:

dumab said:

louiebaby said:

Are those the M6 alloys? They're horrible.

I'd love that, on the proper (normal) M5 wheels, with walnut dash inserts please.

Facelift M5 wheels iirc

Get out, those are M6 wheels.

Or.

Don't be a .

Not really required.

dumab said:

As you will know M6 wheels wouldn't actually fit an E61.

Those wheels are BMW Style 167, with a PCD of 5x120, which is the same for the E60 range, including the E61 M5.

Nope, defiantly do not fit.

[illmonkey]

dumab said:

Be rude to me and you'll get a volley back.

The M6 wheels are a different offset mate, so no, they don't fit.

As I said in my original post which you shot down, they were available on facelift M5's. I don't know what point you're trying to prove but I can see why pretty much everyone has left this thread over the years.

I totally see why everyone leaves this thread if they all get called that.

I'm googling like crazy to find that wheel as a facelifted M5 wheel. I'm happy to be proved wrong, but you're not really doing that. Even this states 167 is for a M5...http://www.bmwstylewheels.com/bmw/167

I'd like to see these M5 facelift, very similar wheels to M6 wheels, I genuinely would. So please furnish this thread with some info.

[ferrisbueller]

E60 M5
7835146 Alloy rim, forged, 81/2JX19 ET:12
7835148 Alloy rim, forged, 91/2JX19 ET:28

E63 M6
2283860 Alloy rim, forged, 10JX19 ET:22
2283850 Alloy rim, forged, 9JX19 ET:6
7835146 Alloy rim, forged, 81/2JX19 ET:12
7835147 Alloy rim, forged, 91/2JX19 ET:17

HTH