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Chestersaurus1 said:
Thanks Braddo, they're in the "watchlist"!
Agree with ATM about the squareness, that 211 looks classy. Not bothered about tech in them, heated seats and cruise is all I need! I assume that 211 had same engine as the early 212's?
Yep, the same engine (there might be detail changes which I won't pretend to have a clue about Agree with ATM about the squareness, that 211 looks classy. Not bothered about tech in them, heated seats and cruise is all I need! I assume that 211 had same engine as the early 212's?
) - typical of the way ze Germans like to do it carrying over existing engines into new models and then changing the engines after a few years.ATM said:
211 does look better to me than 212 but is 211 of the era which rusted?
T'internet wisdom was that Merc improved things significantly with the 211 facelifts around 2006/07, and it was around that time that the 6.2 V8 went in. The nadir seemed to be around mid-90s to mid-2000s, (the W211 being say 2001 to 2009).Edited by braddo on Monday 7th August 20:32
rejn said:
Talking Merc estates...
The idea of putting a 55 (non supercharged) engine into a W124 estate... what do you think? I've found a man who claims to have done it and be able to redo it. Presumably involving 55 brakes too.
I can't get the idea out of my head but worried that it'd take something away from the W124...
As a solution to the rust problems of the W210 it's excellent. The idea of putting a 55 (non supercharged) engine into a W124 estate... what do you think? I've found a man who claims to have done it and be able to redo it. Presumably involving 55 brakes too.
I can't get the idea out of my head but worried that it'd take something away from the W124...
It would be the best of both worlds for me but I'd be thinking about finding a nice 4-cyl car to convert than a 300TE-24. Or you could track down a Turbo Technics twin turbo kit. 
barchetta_boy said:
f
k me. When did I lose control of the merc model range. Both those 211 and 212 look great value! What's the current one? Code number I mean. W124 then w210 I kind of followed but then life got in the way.
Funnily enough I was at a client meeting in slough the other day and I noticed there was a merc dealer nearby. Called in wanting to sit In a GT which they did not have, but they did have an E63 S (why do you need an S variant on a 63 model?! Talk about model inflation...)
Anyway. I wanted to love it. But I could have, perhaps should have been sat in a Lexus. Everything was present, illuminated in blue led light (wtf) there was literally no aesthetic coherence to anything. Take away the 3 pointed star and I could have been sat in any - I want to say Japanese (and that is not meant as an insult) car. There was no Merc-ness. It's gone.
560SEC last proper car?
Nope... You have forgotten a certain car owned by a former friend of ours who went slightly bonkers... Still kicking myself for not buying it...k me. When did I lose control of the merc model range. Both those 211 and 212 look great value! What's the current one? Code number I mean. W124 then w210 I kind of followed but then life got in the way. Funnily enough I was at a client meeting in slough the other day and I noticed there was a merc dealer nearby. Called in wanting to sit In a GT which they did not have, but they did have an E63 S (why do you need an S variant on a 63 model?! Talk about model inflation...)
Anyway. I wanted to love it. But I could have, perhaps should have been sat in a Lexus. Everything was present, illuminated in blue led light (wtf) there was literally no aesthetic coherence to anything. Take away the 3 pointed star and I could have been sat in any - I want to say Japanese (and that is not meant as an insult) car. There was no Merc-ness. It's gone.
560SEC last proper car?
I am talking about a 1992 500E which belonged to a friend of mine. His dad took delivery on Christmas Eve 1992 and had the car serviced by Mercedes Benz Stuttgart on the button and regardless of cost until 2008 when he sold the car to a then friend of mine for EUR8k.
It was black and totally umolested, and used by my friend's dad (a high end art dealer) to ferry client purchases and himself around Europe... Sigh!
braddo said:
rejn said:
Talking Merc estates...
The idea of putting a 55 (non supercharged) engine into a W124 estate... what do you think? I've found a man who claims to have done it and be able to redo it. Presumably involving 55 brakes too.
I can't get the idea out of my head but worried that it'd take something away from the W124...
As a solution to the rust problems of the W210 it's excellent. The idea of putting a 55 (non supercharged) engine into a W124 estate... what do you think? I've found a man who claims to have done it and be able to redo it. Presumably involving 55 brakes too.
I can't get the idea out of my head but worried that it'd take something away from the W124...
It would be the best of both worlds for me but I'd be thinking about finding a nice 4-cyl car to convert than a 300TE-24. Or you could track down a Turbo Technics twin turbo kit. Maybe a 55 would be a bit vulgar. A 500TE would be good. I'll do some digging on forced induction options too... interesting.
ferrisbueller said:
Followed an R129 500 SL on to the motorway the other day. Driven by a middle aged man with arm casually rested on the door. A relatively tight slip road to join which it kinda wallowed around but what followed was an impressive surge from about 30 to, er, motorway speeds in a delightfully subtle and fuss free manner. Like.
I test drove an early one last week. Pre airbag, 15 holes, ambers. Nice car. It needed jobs (don't they all?) and a damn good clean, but genuine one owner from new with 63k miles. I had the luxury of a long, unaccompanied drive over roads I know well and it was pretty nice to be back behind the wheel of a '129 after all these years, but somehow the juices didn't flow. The next guy in the long queue to buy it grabbed a bargain.Another test drive tonight (I'm in a car buying mood) in a lipstick red Mk2 Audi TTS. Not my usual cuppa, but a lady client I know well is selling (for a 991) and had the good taste to spec a clutch pedal and the rare (£3500) competition style bucket seats- i've always liked her. Again I was indulged with a long solo drive and TBH was expected meh, but actually came away very impressed with how it went and drove, and it seems that contemporary road testers agree. Quick little thing too. Anybody know of any issues or had any experience?
louiebaby said:
I really didn't mean to start this. Sorry.
This however, I like too. The advert is terrible (text wise) and I've never wanted a DKR interior, but just look at it:
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C867593
Hardtops invariably look wThis however, I like too. The advert is terrible (text wise) and I've never wanted a DKR interior, but just look at it:
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C867593
kanonymous said:
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I'm with sourpuss on this one. I honestly don't think I ever felt my old 280 wagon would benefit from materially more power. I think you'd need a radically different suspension set up to actually make the most of the engine transplant, which in turn would (to my mind at least) spoil the magic somewhat. Gruber said:
Apropos of Mercs, this little beauty is currently giving me the tingle:
Circa 45k miles, one owner, Sportline, tan cow... dribble.
http://www.bahmancars.ch/Occasions-vue-simple.25.0...
That is very lovelyCirca 45k miles, one owner, Sportline, tan cow... dribble.
http://www.bahmancars.ch/Occasions-vue-simple.25.0...
barchetta_boy said:
One of my little pipe dreams I'll get round to when I've sold my company is to start a top quality car mag. The vision is thick paper, long form articles a la Llewellin / Bulgin / Setright, published 4 times a year. No advertising. Amazing photography. It would lose/cost more money than an S65 on linglongs but it would be worth it.
Someone's beaten you to it.http://www.automobilsport-magazin.de/en/automobils...
Mentioned this magazine previously, it's absolutely top drawer. Very high quality and extremely well researched. They take one subject per issue to create an epic story. This one is The Porsche Dakar story but they've also done BMW pro car development, the 1987 wtcc battle etc.
I think Brabus have lost their way a little recently.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2017...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2017...
I did not know but am very pleased to find out that the M119 is the same engine in the 500E/E500 as it is in the 500SL.
That goes some way to explain Ferris' experience of watching one propel itself forwards.
I have to admit that it has surprised me and continues to amuse how it effortlessly gathers pace.
That goes some way to explain Ferris' experience of watching one propel itself forwards.
I have to admit that it has surprised me and continues to amuse how it effortlessly gathers pace.
Leins said:
I seem to recall Brabus shoved the 5L V8 into a 190 back in the '80s
Ha. To this day I remember a 'featured ad' or whatever it was in one of the classic mags around 2003, when they would test drive 2 or 3 cars in their classifieds section. It was a 190E done by Carlsson, a 5L V8 in a 190E, RHD, manual. Standard bodywork, just lowered suspension and some gold BBS alloys (and a loud exhaust) were the giveaways. The article suggested putting it back on standard wheels for sleeper effect. £5000. For years I hoped it (or something similar) would turn up again in the classifieds. Alas...
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