The Best ///M/Barge/General Rant/Look at this/O/T(Vol XVIII)

The Best ///M/Barge/General Rant/Look at this/O/T(Vol XVIII)

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L100NYY

35,212 posts

243 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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The R53 has a real biddable nature to it

Diesel Meister

2,044 posts

201 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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hehe

L100NYY

35,212 posts

243 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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Nnnggghhhh


GraemeP

770 posts

229 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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Evening all - great posting over the last few weeks!! I’ve joined the vanlife brigade with this replacing my F31 tourer, predominantly for bike lugging duty:



Given this has a heady 102bhp I’m thinking about a stablemate - would love another Caterham (given special 911s are financially restricted), but what is the concencus on a BBR turbo’d mk3 MX5? The odd one comes up for sale, and given their low cost (and the Evo videos off them on track) they seem like a thinking man’s Caterham? 300bhp, good chassis and balance, plus you can stay dry!

L100NYY

35,212 posts

243 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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That VW 'van' is fantastic G, more pics please? Is it converted inside at all?? Would like something like this and do a solo road trip.

Oh and Caterham is the answer

GraemeP

770 posts

229 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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L100NYY said:
That VW 'van' is fantastic G, more pics please? Is it converted inside at all?? Would like something like this and do a solo road trip.

Oh and Caterham is the answer
Cheers Ben! I’ll get some more pics taken soon. It’s converted to a day van, so has a Caravelle floor with rails, 3 seat rock and roll bed in the back, with captain’s driver seat and 2 seat passenger side. Carpeted and lights etc in the back plus tailgate conversion and windows. It was a friend of mine’s work van - he’s a car painter by trade, hence the one off Scirroco colour change (I think it’s called dark oak).

I think I know you’re right on the Caterham, but I end up looking at cars around £30k - I could get an MX for closer to £12k.

L100NYY

35,212 posts

243 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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I really like it, right upy strasse that one. Look forward to seeing more pics.

One of those, my mtb and an empty diary is cloud9

£12k and hassle free fun then MX5 is hard to beat imo

GraemeP

770 posts

229 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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L100NYY said:
I really like it, right upy strasse that one. Look forward to seeing more pics.

One of those, my mtb and an empty diary is cloud9

£12k and hassle free fun then MX5 is hard to beat imo
Not sure what style of riding you like, but if you’ve got Netflix check out Deathgrip the movie - in particular the section with Brendan Fairclough and Josh Bryceland riding Schladming 👍🏻👍🏻

L100NYY

35,212 posts

243 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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I'll have a look, mtb xc is me

Fresh Prince

527 posts

172 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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jeremyc said:
Anyway, talking of modernised recreations ... cloud9lick

My wife looked over my shoulder and said "that car looks like it's about to start talking. Looks like something out of a cartoon".

braddo

10,481 posts

188 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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NomduJour said:
jeremyc said:
What's to say which version of the period car should be reflected at Goodwood?
How about where two versions of the same car exist, one of which has been recently built from scratch as a facsimile (where they “share” a chassis number, and the paying public is never told of the new car’s existence)?
While I get that race cars in their period can be like Trigger's broom, once they have retired and become historic artefacts whose value is derived from what they did in the old days, I think that the originality of the core vehicle is (or should be) extremely important.

An example could be the Mk2 Escort. At the extreme end let's say a WRC winning Mk2 Escort was badly crashed in the past 20 years and 'reshelled' - I'm sorry but for me that means the original car is dead and there's a new recreation in its place. That should be a matter of record and the car should not be masqueraded as the original car. It would be a replica with lots of works parts, but not the original car.

The Revival should be the same. New cars with nothing old but a VIN plate should be on the record as different from the real old race cars. The punters ought to be told if a brand new £300k lightweight E-type replica is lapping the £1m real thing. If there are no old race cars left, let's be honest about watching replicas!

ETA for offing effing autocorrect!

Edited by braddo on Wednesday 7th March 22:02

bungle

1,874 posts

240 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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Diesel Meister said:
Yes indeed. The best modern ones are R53s in my view, although the R56 isn't bad (I find the current model abhorrent to look at as well as un-mini like in size). Handle like the proverbial housefly and I love the meaty steering and the "eminently brappable"* (as per deR's Dunk 76 almanac of Evoisms) nature- clearly designed by folk who like driving enthusiastically. Yet they are habit able day to day. I don't go in for mildly pastiche styling but these get away with it due to being nicely put together and just great fun to pedal briskly. Like all good driver's cars, they reward driving with sporting intent cool

[*] Notice I didn't say biddablehehe
Been keeping on eye on these for ages, thinking that when they dip below £10k I'd take a more serious look. But they never have. Don't seem to have moved in price for ages.

For me, the R56 is too much (in your face, too many stickers etc), the R53 more subtle (which I like).

ferrisbueller

29,328 posts

227 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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braddo said:
NomduJour said:
jeremyc said:
What's to say which version of the period car should be reflected at Goodwood?
How about where two versions of the same car exist, one of which has been recently built from scratch as a facsimile (where they “share” a chassis number, and the paying public is never told of the new car’s existence)?
While I get that race cars in their period can be like Trigger's broom, once they have retired and become historic artefacts whose value is derived from what they did in the old days, I think that the originality of the core vehicle is (or should be) extremely important.

An example could be the Mk2 Escort. At the extreme end let's say a WRC winning Mk2 Escort was badly crashed in the past 20 years and 'reshelled' - I'm sorry but for me that means the original car is dead and there's a new recreation in its place. That should be a matter of record and the car should not be masqueraded as the original car. It would be a replica with lots of works parts, but not the original car.

The Revival should be the same. New cars with nothing old but a VIN plate should be on the record as different from the real old race cars. The punters ought to be told if a brand new £300k lightweight E-type replica is lapping the £1m real thing. If there are no old race cars left, let's be honest about watching replicas!

ETA for offing effing autocorrect!

Edited by braddo on Wednesday 7th March 22:02
Next year turn up to the revival with a ticket which looks like an original one but isn't..........

Diesel Meister

2,044 posts

201 months

Thursday 8th March 2018
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ferrisbueller said:
Next year turn up to the revival with a ticket which looks like an original one but isn't..........
hehe

Fair points well made by you and braddo I think.

That SCR does look vaguely CGI but that's the colour and lights plus comedy wheels I think. I still like it. A 7 figure windfall would include this and a Singer as well as more modest acquisitions (like a garage to put them in....).

GP - Nice van.

bungle - I agree, the R53 WGP is the daddy. I'd not shun an R56 but the R53 is more desirable imho. Likely to end up with a modded MCS / JCW as rear seats seem to be a requirement sadly. We'll see. Alternatively I'd like her to get an Elise so I can have an estate for lugging, but two cars might be pushing it!

Leins

9,468 posts

148 months

Thursday 8th March 2018
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Diesel Meister said:
bungle - I agree, the R53 WGP is the daddy. I'd not shun an R56 but the R53 is more desirable imho. Likely to end up with a modded MCS / JCW as rear seats seem to be a requirement sadly. We'll see. Alternatively I'd like her to get an Elise so I can have an estate for lugging, but two cars might be pushing it!
You also get more speakers in a JCW - I actually thought my stereo had an issue before realising Bertone had ditched the rears! Supercharger whine makes up for it though

ferrisbueller

29,328 posts

227 months

Thursday 8th March 2018
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Looks like a slightly warped Hot Wheels.

julesGB

309 posts

250 months

Thursday 8th March 2018
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Love a good van. I’ve covered 40k miles in a Transit Custom over the past 2 1/2 years. Chuck MTBs in the back, mud and all, let it dry and sweep it out with a broom biggrin


L100NYY

35,212 posts

243 months

ferrisbueller

29,328 posts

227 months

Thursday 8th March 2018
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L100NYY said:
I'm not going to get involved on the Revival et al subject.
You just did tongue out

Chris Stott

13,367 posts

197 months

Thursday 8th March 2018
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L100NYY said:
Always really liked these, and £15k seems ridiculously cheap... no evidence to support this, but I would fear massive bills when something inevitably went pop.

Edit... very quick Google/PH Maserati section trawl reveals plenty of evidence... £2-3k/year in general upkeep, 10mpg round town, 17 or so average yikes

Still want one laugh

Edited by Chris Stott on Thursday 8th March 13:39

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