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Health warning: Inconsequential Thread ramble, SUV content.
So, the family transport for the past few years has been a 2008 Cayenne - the facelift of the ugly original, with a nice 4.8 V8, lots of options including air suspension and touchscreen sat nav (very rare at that age, and still terrible
), pampered but with galactic autoroute miles.
It was purchased partly because very few cars these days can fit a person and 2 kids' seats on the rear seat (Drew might sympathise
), partly because the kids get a decent view out their window when nearly all cars these days have terribly high window lines for young kids...
But mostly, it was because I'd just bought a GT3 when my better half was pregnant and she said if I get to have a Porsche then so should she... I couldn't argue with that.
Anyway, other than using a shocking amount of fuel it's an annoyingly accomplished car and my wife absolutely loves it. Women seem to gain a shedload of confidence from driving a big intimidating car. I guess those reasons are why SUVs are so popular.
Back to my particular ramble - tyres - it turns out these Cayennes, with air suspension, are just ridiculous for how quickly they can get down a windy B road - minimal body roll, and no noticeable sidewall deflection in the tyres even though those sidewalls are at least 4 inches high and the car weighs maybe 2.5 ton. My old Alfa probably had similar height sidewalls, wearing 185/70/14 tyres and weighed only a ton, yet it moved around a lot on its sidewalls.
So, the tyres are something. The car has been fairly trouble-free but a slow leak in a tyre meant a trip to a tyre place. Even with <20psi the tyre keeps its shape and will not go flat. Turns out there is a nail hiding on the inside edge of the tyre so it ain't repairable. That tyre is on the rear, the front tyres are pretty worn so FFS, it looks like a whole new set is probably the way to go.
The tyres are Porsche approved Bridgestones, 100% road focussed summer tyres. Thing is, they look a bit weedy when the car is at its standard ride height or raised ('offload') ride height, plus they're not all-season tyres. So I decided to put some more chunky all-terrain tyres on, which fill out the arches better and are mud+snow approved so that we can use the car year-round. The plan is to make the car look slightly more like a vehicle that goes offroad, and I need to find somewhere to go actually offroad and make it suitably filthy.
Photos to follow, there seem to be upload issues this eve for me.
Edited to edit autocorrect...
So, the family transport for the past few years has been a 2008 Cayenne - the facelift of the ugly original, with a nice 4.8 V8, lots of options including air suspension and touchscreen sat nav (very rare at that age, and still terrible
), pampered but with galactic autoroute miles. It was purchased partly because very few cars these days can fit a person and 2 kids' seats on the rear seat (Drew might sympathise
), partly because the kids get a decent view out their window when nearly all cars these days have terribly high window lines for young kids...But mostly, it was because I'd just bought a GT3 when my better half was pregnant and she said if I get to have a Porsche then so should she... I couldn't argue with that.
Anyway, other than using a shocking amount of fuel it's an annoyingly accomplished car and my wife absolutely loves it. Women seem to gain a shedload of confidence from driving a big intimidating car. I guess those reasons are why SUVs are so popular.
Back to my particular ramble - tyres - it turns out these Cayennes, with air suspension, are just ridiculous for how quickly they can get down a windy B road - minimal body roll, and no noticeable sidewall deflection in the tyres even though those sidewalls are at least 4 inches high and the car weighs maybe 2.5 ton. My old Alfa probably had similar height sidewalls, wearing 185/70/14 tyres and weighed only a ton, yet it moved around a lot on its sidewalls.
So, the tyres are something. The car has been fairly trouble-free but a slow leak in a tyre meant a trip to a tyre place. Even with <20psi the tyre keeps its shape and will not go flat. Turns out there is a nail hiding on the inside edge of the tyre so it ain't repairable. That tyre is on the rear, the front tyres are pretty worn so FFS, it looks like a whole new set is probably the way to go.
The tyres are Porsche approved Bridgestones, 100% road focussed summer tyres. Thing is, they look a bit weedy when the car is at its standard ride height or raised ('offload') ride height, plus they're not all-season tyres. So I decided to put some more chunky all-terrain tyres on, which fill out the arches better and are mud+snow approved so that we can use the car year-round. The plan is to make the car look slightly more like a vehicle that goes offroad, and I need to find somewhere to go actually offroad and make it suitably filthy.
Photos to follow, there seem to be upload issues this eve for me.
Edited to edit autocorrect...
Edited by braddo on Saturday 11th August 23:50
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k me Braddo, you just wrote an almost word for word similar post to whats in my head!
They really are disgustingly accomplished vehicles aren't they? For someone such as myself, who really does not like SUV type things, it is most annoying!
Tyres - I hear you. What I want to know is what kind of idiot buys a Cayenne in the Lake District with a sodding big V8 and puts £2.5k 21" RS Spyder fking wheels on it?? 35 profile bloody sidewall tyres? It was bought in Kendal ffs, not sodding Chelsea!! Whilst such wheels and tyres handle summer ok, they are appalling however, for actual country roads. Last yr a pothole stole £3.5k from my wallet on the destruction of a wheel and 4 new tyres. Lesson learnt - this yr, its £800 on ebay for a set of 4 17 or 18" and semi off road jobs - from the end of the month. Devon really doesn't fk around when it comes to rain and mud!
Ours does about 32 or so, munches miles astonishingly across country or down autoroutes en France. Takes the wife everywhere, hauls dogs everywhere and is so good in fact that when I come home on a Thurs night in the Alfa, I drop the keys on the side and we only use the Pork over the weekends.
Depressingly good vehicles.
k me Braddo, you just wrote an almost word for word similar post to whats in my head!They really are disgustingly accomplished vehicles aren't they? For someone such as myself, who really does not like SUV type things, it is most annoying!
Tyres - I hear you. What I want to know is what kind of idiot buys a Cayenne in the Lake District with a sodding big V8 and puts £2.5k 21" RS Spyder f
king wheels on it?? 35 profile bloody sidewall tyres? It was bought in Kendal ffs, not sodding Chelsea!! Whilst such wheels and tyres handle summer ok, they are appalling however, for actual country roads. Last yr a pothole stole £3.5k from my wallet on the destruction of a wheel and 4 new tyres. Lesson learnt - this yr, its £800 on ebay for a set of 4 17 or 18" and semi off road jobs - from the end of the month. Devon really doesn't fk around when it comes to rain and mud! Ours does about 32 or so, munches miles astonishingly across country or down autoroutes en France. Takes the wife everywhere, hauls dogs everywhere and is so good in fact that when I come home on a Thurs night in the Alfa, I drop the keys on the side and we only use the Pork over the weekends.
Depressingly good vehicles.
DeejRC said:
Depressingly good vehicles.
Sorry to hear about the pothole bill...And that Range Rover is stupendous.
Here is the Cayenne on factory tyres and standard ride height.
Here it is on the new boots and in the high ride setting (about an inch higher than standard).
The new tyres are an inch more diameter, just under 5% greater circumference so the speedo will probably over-read by 1-2%. it will be interesting to see how ride quality etc compares.
shirt said:
In Barcelona today... Spotting the bravest/stupidest citizen was quite easy - he was driving a RR Coupe graced by a V8 EFI moniker in the lower right corner of the tailgate. Instant want!
I guess it had to happen some day ...
Of possible interest to the cayenne lovers, a friend (and pher)’s blog:
https://m.facebook.com/Cayennegtsoffroad/
Very capable cars. He’s planning to cross Oman’s Wahiba desert in December and i will be tagging along in my v8 disco 3.
https://m.facebook.com/Cayennegtsoffroad/
Very capable cars. He’s planning to cross Oman’s Wahiba desert in December and i will be tagging along in my v8 disco 3.
Series running on YouTube I've just been alerted too which is well worth watching -
Watch "Gordon Murray's MK1 Escort - Retropower Build Episode 1" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/nSiG7oNXC6w
Watch "Gordon Murray's MK1 Escort - Retropower Build Episode 1" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/nSiG7oNXC6w
Fast Bug said:
I quite like that GT3, and to be fair it can easily be put back to stock. Quite a chunky mark up over the last few years though
It's history put me off last time it was up. Assuming the air gubbins can be taken off and replaced with OEM/KW etc. Is that range of camber adjustment OEM, too? Have the arches been rolled?ferrisbueller said:
Fast Bug said:
I quite like that GT3, and to be fair it can easily be put back to stock. Quite a chunky mark up over the last few years though
It's history put me off last time it was up. Assuming the air gubbins can be taken off and replaced with OEM/KW etc. Is that range of camber adjustment OEM, too? Have the arches been rolled?
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