The Best ///M/Barge/General Rant/Look at this/O/T(Vol XVIII)

The Best ///M/Barge/General Rant/Look at this/O/T(Vol XVIII)

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Crook

6,808 posts

225 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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thumbup X lots on the SRT smile

I just want to say that this is not an advert.

I had a conversation with Mr. Flange a little while ago about how it is the mundane day to day workhorse functional cars that tend to get under the skin. The car that takes you to work, to the station, to the tip, the shops, never complains, never lets you down just goes and goes and everything gets thrown in it, at it and on it. They're generally not the fastest of cars (although a few on here are the exception to the rule) but more often than not they have enough poke, grip and chassis balance that lets you have a laugh and a general demeanor that says you know where you both stand and it's not going to get upset if you take a liberty.

Basically it's your best friend, your trusting hound and well, your car.

Mine was a 2004 Seat Toledo TDI Sport. The one with all of the TDI in red. It had sporty seats, a sporty steering wheel and a surprising amount of go that called the official 8.9 to 62 dash into question. It was bought off my father in law when he was trading it in for a newish Scirocco. With very little persuasion it was mine for the wife's very unhappy Mk 4 golf in substitution, a very family orientated amount of cash and a good pub lunch.

It was bought at a time when I had to move the E36 M3 on as it was relentless in its wallet ravaging tendencies and I'd had enough. The Seat, like many functional cars was to be a stop-gap whilst I caught my breath and looked around to see what else could be fun. That was four years ago. I finally found a 2 Series and am two weeks into my new car, the Seat is waiting, faithfully, on the drive for me to take it to WBAC and I feel guilty. It's done nothing wrong. It's got a dented door that was the result of a trip to Greggs and now I see that I let it and myself down by not getting it repaired. Not worth it I thought.
Shame on me.

The Toledo, or unsurprisingly 'Torpedo' as it was occasionally called has, at an average of around 47mpg carried me for around seventy-five thousand miles; to Le Mans, to Scotland and mainly the 50 miles to and from work which is a good mix of lanes, A roads and dual carriage way and it made me laugh. Being based on the Golf Mk4 platform is no bad thing, they're a nice handling car. I'd never had a diesel before and I'm unlikely to get another but the turbo torque was enjoyable. That you could make such swift progress on 6 gears and a thousand rpm rev band never failed to amuse.

To run it cost so little that it was in effect a free car, always had genuine VW parts and was serviced on the nose by a great little indie in Leighton Buzzard; if you have a VAG you could do a lot worse than seeing Greg and Charlie at Total VAG. Anyway I digress. The Seat is empty of wellington boots, a fork for the allotment, a mirriad of CDs, an A to Z, a frisbee and other assorted crap that accumulates in the door pockets and recesses of the boot.

We Buy Any Car. We, Buy, Any, Car, it doesn't seem right and yet BMW offered me a hundred and fifty quid. That's just not on. I can not be bothered with Ebay or people in general and so I'll take what they give and try not to feel guilty.

The worst part was having SORN'd it and transferred the insurance onto the new car I got stuck at the top of my road on a bit of ice and the next day when it snowed I had to walk to the station and get the train! The Cross-Climate shod Seat would barely have noticed the snow and I'd have had an enjoyable drive in the white stuff.

It looks a bit like this, the wheels are slightly different and it has a dented door:



And I am going to miss it.

The new car is okay, it does things I don't like, it's less tactile than the Seat, which I guess is down to 'progress' and is laughably fast. But we'll see.

Like that actress in that film said "You've got very big boots to fill"








Edited by Crook on Tuesday 12th February 20:00

Easternlight

3,437 posts

145 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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Look on the bright side the Trackhawk would be even worse, so you've bought the sensible one. biggrin

Had to Google the Trackhawk, and found that Hennessey have had a go at it too.
The Trackhawk HPE1000... 1012bhp!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2FoFR1DNZU

phil_cardiff

7,112 posts

209 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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Crook said:
thumbup X lots on the SRT smile

I just want to say that this is not an advert.

I had a conversation with Mr. Flange a little while ago about how it is the mundane day to day workhorse functional cars that tend to get under the skin. The car that takes you to work, to the station, to the tip, the shops, never complains, never lets you down just goes and goes and everything gets thrown in it, at it and on it. They're generally not the fastest of cars (although a few on here are the exception to the rule) but more often than not they have enough poke, grip and chassis balance that lets you have a laugh and a general demeanor that says you know where you both stand and it's not going to get upset if you take a liberty.

Basically it's your best friend, your trusting hound and well, your car.

Mine was a 2004 Seat Toledo TDI Sport. The one with all of the TDI in red. It had sporty seats, a sporty steering wheel and a surprising amount of go that called the official 8.9 to 62 dash into question. It was bought off my father in law when he was trading it in for a newish Scirocco. With very little persuasion it was mine for the wife's very unhappy Mk 4 golf in substitution, a very family orientated amount of cash and a good pub lunch.

It was bought at a time when I had to move the E36 M3 on as it was relentless in its wallet ravaging tendencies and I'd had enough. The Seat, like many functional cars was to be a stop-gap whilst I caught my breath and looked around to see what else could be fun. That was four years ago. I finally found a 2 Series and am two weeks into my new car, the Seat is waiting, faithfully, on the drive for me to take it to WBAC and I feel guilty. It's done nothing wrong. It's got a dented door that was the result of a trip to Greggs and now I see that I let it and myself down by not getting it repaired. Not worth it I thought.
Shame on me.

The Toledo, or unsurprisingly 'Torpedo' as it was occasionally called has, at an average of around 47mpg carried me for around seventy-five thousand miles; to Le Mans, to Scotland and mainly the 50 miles to and from work which is a good mix of lanes, A roads and dual carriage way and it made me laugh. Being based on the Golf Mk4 platform is no bad thing, they're a nice handling car. I'd never had a diesel before and I'm unlikely to get another but the turbo torque was enjoyable. That you could make such swift progress on 6 gears and a thousand rpm rev band never failed to amuse.

To run it cost so little that it was in effect a free car, always had genuine VW parts and was serviced on the nose by a great little indie in Leighton Buzzard; if you have a VAG you could do a lot worse than seeing Greg and Charlie at Total VAG. Anyway I digress. The Seat is empty of wellington boots, a fork for the allotment, a mirriad of CDs, an A to Z, a frisbee and other assorted crap that accumulates in the door pockets and recesses of the boot.

We Buy Any Car. We, Buy, Any, Car, it doesn't seem right and yet BMW offered me a hundred and fifty quid. That's just not on. I can not be bothered with Ebay or people in general and so I'll take what they give and try not to feel guilty.

The worst part was having SORN'd it and transferred the insurance onto the new car I got stuck at the top of my road on a bit of ice and the next day when it snowed I had to walk to the station and get the train! The Cross-Climate shod Seat would barely have noticed the snow and I'd have had an enjoyable drive in the white stuff.

It looks a bit like this, the wheels are slightly different and it has a dented door:



And I am going to miss it.

The new car is okay, it does things I don't like, it's less tactile than the Seat, which I guess is down to 'progress' and is laughably fast. But we'll see.

Like that actress in that film said "You've got very big boots to fill"








Edited by Crook on Tuesday 12th February 20:00
I know you don't like people but anything with that VAG tdi engine sells like hot cakes.

I got £350 for a 98 Passat with 280k miles and a very rusty tailgate, sold to the 1st person who viewed.

ferrisbueller

29,363 posts

228 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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yes

Someone would definitely take that.

Crook

6,808 posts

225 months

Wednesday 13th February 2019
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ears

Thanks. Will have a think on that.

Fast Bug

11,746 posts

162 months

Wednesday 13th February 2019
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Talking of old Seats, we've just changed Mrs FB's Seat Ibiza. 7 years and 50k cost under £800 a year for depreciation, servicing, tyres and MOT test. It was faultless bar a fault that meant the radio sometimes turned on when it was parked up which flattened the battery. I'm hoping the Polo that replaced it will be the same!

stickylabels said:
You win Mr Fast Bug!! Had a bet with my missus on who'd mention it first. We have a pact, it's the only question no-ones allowed to ask!!!laugh

Brimmed the 20gallon tank at Costco in Edinburgh as 'their' super is 117p/l. It even has an 'Eco' button for cylinder deactivation. After over 300 hundred miles bringing it back here, my son and I have nicknamed it the 'B/S' button....drink... oh the numbers on the dash looked lovely to make you feel gooey inside but it made naff all difference in reality.

Of course, once the caravan is nailed onto it and the bikes put on the roof I can feel a very new low coming on......

Sticky.
I ran an A45 this time last year and do a lot of miles 24mpg meant the Nectar points pretty much paid for the Christmas food shop laugh

Crook

6,808 posts

225 months

Wednesday 13th February 2019
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I’ve just got a Tesco club card. There’s a slight mpg difference between the Seat and the 240...

RicksAlfas

13,422 posts

245 months

Wednesday 13th February 2019
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Love the jeep. Fantastic engine. hehe

stickylabels said:
Of course, once the caravan is nailed onto it and the bikes put on the roof I can feel a very new low coming on......
Can you fit a towbar on it? I thought these had the central exhausts?

Chris Stott

13,457 posts

198 months

Wednesday 13th February 2019
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I just close my eyes to consumption... 996 does c.200 miles on a full tank (60l) when I'm just knocking around to work and back and the Touareg does less than 20 when it's not on the motorway.

LeighW

4,422 posts

189 months

Wednesday 13th February 2019
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Chris Stott said:
I just close my eyes to consumption... 996 does c.200 miles on a full tank (60l) when I'm just knocking around to work and back and the Touareg does less than 20 when it's not on the motorway.
I remember way back when I had an Evo 7 as a daily driver. It had a small tank (48 litres IIRC), and tank brimmed > fuel light on was usually around 150 miles. Combined with having to do a 10 mile round trip from my house to get SUL, it was bit of a pain in the arse at times.

Output Flange

16,806 posts

212 months

Wednesday 13th February 2019
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Test fit on the new tow car. Seems to work ok.


Chris Stott

13,457 posts

198 months

Wednesday 13th February 2019
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LeighW said:
I remember way back when I had an Evo 7 as a daily driver. It had a small tank (48 litres IIRC), and tank brimmed > fuel light on was usually around 150 miles. Combined with having to do a 10 mile round trip from my house to get SUL, it was bit of a pain in the arse at times.
I had an Impreza in the mid 90's... 50l tank and mid teens to the gallon. It was a company car, and I was doing c.600-800 miles a week. I got bored of stopping to fill it up.

Cheburator mk2

2,998 posts

200 months

Wednesday 13th February 2019
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Chris Stott said:
I just close my eyes to consumption... 996 does c.200 miles on a full tank (60l) when I'm just knocking around to work and back and the Touareg does less than 20 when it's not on the motorway.
That’s actually a shocking fuel consumption for your 996... My LHD 996.1 GT3 would do 32-34mpg at 70 indicated... I can easily do London to the Ring and have almost a quarter of a tank left - ok, I have the long range 90ltr tank, but still. And on top, it has the 4:1 shorter final drive from the Cup car fitted! On track is a different matter...

ferrisbueller

29,363 posts

228 months

Wednesday 13th February 2019
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Having seen Chris' driving the consumption is entirely understandable.

Cheburator mk2

2,998 posts

200 months

Wednesday 13th February 2019
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ferrisbueller said:
Having seen Chris' driving the consumption is entirely understandable.
Furry muff - he said “driving to work” and I presumed he kind of drove normally 😂

stickylabels

560 posts

93 months

Wednesday 13th February 2019
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RicksAlfas said:
Can you fit a towbar on it? I thought these had the central exhausts?
Yes, the first versions were central mount, Mk11's are one per side so no issues there. It even has a 'tow' setting so the adaptive
(Bilstein) dampers change setting and the power is 50/50 front/rear for stability.

Output Flange, I do like an Eriba van, they just don't make one we all fit in unfortunately.

Sticky

ATM

18,333 posts

220 months

Wednesday 13th February 2019
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stickylabels said:
Output Flange, I do like an Eriba van, they just don't make one we all fit in unfortunately.
Is this a caravan discussion?

Output Flange

16,806 posts

212 months

Wednesday 13th February 2019
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stickylabels said:
Output Flange, I do like an Eriba van, they just don't make one we all fit in unfortunately.

Sticky
There's a new one out this year - the Touring 820. That might do you.

RicksAlfas

13,422 posts

245 months

Wednesday 13th February 2019
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stickylabels said:
RicksAlfas said:
Can you fit a towbar on it? I thought these had the central exhausts?
Yes, the first versions were central mount, Mk11's are one per side so no issues there. It even has a 'tow' setting so the adaptive
(Bilstein) dampers change setting and the power is 50/50 front/rear for stability.

Sticky
Thanks, that’s good to hear. Always seemed a weird feature on the WK1, but the US use a different tow bar than we do so they didn’t have the same issue.

Enjoy it!
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