Real Good Number Plates vol 5
Discussion
I saw 2 EH on a JLR product this week.
Derbyshire had 3 separate series for cars, motorcycles and heavy vehicles. The latter only reached R 51, but both series had an R 60. Wonder which one it was?This might be a dumb question, but I thought DVLA forbade the transfer of original plates onto newer cars now?
Perhaps I am just thinking of the one example - the 1AN plate on the Morris Minor that DVLA refused to allow to be transferred (presumably because they would have wanted to re-issue it themselves at vast profit??).
oxford drinker said:
Sir Bagalot said:
v15ben said:
R 60 on a 992 Carrera S in Leeds today.
Must be an early issue!
Originally a Derbyshire plate, issued on first day of issue in 1904Must be an early issue!
Perhaps I am just thinking of the one example - the 1AN plate on the Morris Minor that DVLA refused to allow to be transferred (presumably because they would have wanted to re-issue it themselves at vast profit??).
RSTurboPaul said:
I saw 2 EH on a JLR product this week.
Derbyshire had 3 separate series for cars, motorcycles and heavy vehicles. The latter only reached R 51, but both series had an R 60. Wonder which one it was?This might be a dumb question, but I thought DVLA forbade the transfer of original plates onto newer cars now?
Perhaps I am just thinking of the one example - the 1AN plate on the Morris Minor that DVLA refused to allow to be transferred (presumably because they would have wanted to re-issue it themselves at vast profit??).
Reverse AN was never issued by West Ham, only as trade plates. Reverse AAN was also not issued to avoid any confusion oxford drinker said:
Sir Bagalot said:
v15ben said:
R 60 on a 992 Carrera S in Leeds today.
Must be an early issue!
Originally a Derbyshire plate, issued on first day of issue in 1904Must be an early issue!
Perhaps I am just thinking of the one example - the 1AN plate on the Morris Minor that DVLA refused to allow to be transferred (presumably because they would have wanted to re-issue it themselves at vast profit??).
My understanding is that the owner of "1 AN" tried to resurrect the plate and went for an MOT, not much could be proved either way so DVLA caved in but made the plate non transferable. To be honest there are several different stories so it's anyone's guess as to which one is actually true. The previous owner had the car and plate for sale for years and years, starting at £40K and dropping over time to £20K, it was attached to a Morris Minor worth ~ £3K at the time. The then owner didn't even know, or rather wasn't telling the truth of the origins of the plate.
Many laughed at the owners asking price, even when it dropped to £20K. Myself included.
Key words were "previous owner" and "then owner"... as you know it disappeared from sale, that was because it was sold for "close" to £20K and now lives in Dorset.
The only thing 20K about that car is the mileage which at last MOT was a tad under 20K. How the new owner thought it was worth anything more than a few £K is anyones guess
Many laughed at the owners asking price, even when it dropped to £20K. Myself included.
Key words were "previous owner" and "then owner"... as you know it disappeared from sale, that was because it was sold for "close" to £20K and now lives in Dorset.
The only thing 20K about that car is the mileage which at last MOT was a tad under 20K. How the new owner thought it was worth anything more than a few £K is anyones guess
RSTurboPaul said:
I saw 2 EH on a JLR product this week.
Derbyshire had 3 separate series for cars, motorcycles and heavy vehicles. The latter only reached R 51, but both series had an R 60. Wonder which one it was?This might be a dumb question, but I thought DVLA forbade the transfer of original plates onto newer cars now?
Perhaps I am just thinking of the one example - the 1AN plate on the Morris Minor that DVLA refused to allow to be transferred (presumably because they would have wanted to re-issue it themselves at vast profit??).
As noted below, 1 AN is an exception. Very foggy history consider never issued (and also not used for re-registrations). Any old plate can be transferred unless it is non-transferable, if that makes sense. NT plates fall into two categories (to my knowledge) - plates on 'barn find' cars where the owner has been able to demonstrate the car and plate match; and DVLA re-registrations, either where the original plate is unknown or cannot be proven, or has been sold. A good example is BF xxxx, withdrawn shortly after allocation in 1904 as it 'suggested' Bloody Fool, and now used by DVLA to re-register vintage and veteran vehicles. They have a set of other unallocated plates that they use in the same way, with a nod to historic correctness - eg, ABC 123 for pre-war and 123 ABC for 1945-1963. Post 63 will get an age appropriate suffix (or indeed prefix) plate. oxford drinker said:
Sir Bagalot said:
v15ben said:
R 60 on a 992 Carrera S in Leeds today.
Must be an early issue!
Originally a Derbyshire plate, issued on first day of issue in 1904Must be an early issue!
Perhaps I am just thinking of the one example - the 1AN plate on the Morris Minor that DVLA refused to allow to be transferred (presumably because they would have wanted to re-issue it themselves at vast profit??).
oxford drinker said:
RSTurboPaul said:
I saw 2 EH on a JLR product this week.
Derbyshire had 3 separate series for cars, motorcycles and heavy vehicles. The latter only reached R 51, but both series had an R 60. Wonder which one it was?This might be a dumb question, but I thought DVLA forbade the transfer of original plates onto newer cars now?
Perhaps I am just thinking of the one example - the 1AN plate on the Morris Minor that DVLA refused to allow to be transferred (presumably because they would have wanted to re-issue it themselves at vast profit??).
Reverse AN was never issued by West Ham, only as trade plates. Reverse AAN was also not issued to avoid any confusion oxford drinker said:
Sir Bagalot said:
v15ben said:
R 60 on a 992 Carrera S in Leeds today.
Must be an early issue!
Originally a Derbyshire plate, issued on first day of issue in 1904Must be an early issue!
Perhaps I am just thinking of the one example - the 1AN plate on the Morris Minor that DVLA refused to allow to be transferred (presumably because they would have wanted to re-issue it themselves at vast profit??).
Sir Bagalot said:
My understanding is that the owner of "1 AN" tried to resurrect the plate and went for an MOT, not much could be proved either way so DVLA caved in but made the plate non transferable. To be honest there are several different stories so it's anyone's guess as to which one is actually true. The previous owner had the car and plate for sale for years and years, starting at £40K and dropping over time to £20K, it was attached to a Morris Minor worth ~ £3K at the time. The then owner didn't even know, or rather wasn't telling the truth of the origins of the plate.
Many laughed at the owners asking price, even when it dropped to £20K. Myself included.
Key words were "previous owner" and "then owner"... as you know it disappeared from sale, that was because it was sold for "close" to £20K and now lives in Dorset.
The only thing 20K about that car is the mileage which at last MOT was a tad under 20K. How the new owner thought it was worth anything more than a few £K is anyones guess
Many laughed at the owners asking price, even when it dropped to £20K. Myself included.
Key words were "previous owner" and "then owner"... as you know it disappeared from sale, that was because it was sold for "close" to £20K and now lives in Dorset.
The only thing 20K about that car is the mileage which at last MOT was a tad under 20K. How the new owner thought it was worth anything more than a few £K is anyones guess
M3DGE said:
As noted below, 1 AN is an exception. Very foggy history consider never issued (and also not used for re-registrations). Any old plate can be transferred unless it is non-transferable, if that makes sense. NT plates fall into two categories (to my knowledge) - plates on 'barn find' cars where the owner has been able to demonstrate the car and plate match; and DVLA re-registrations, either where the original plate is unknown or cannot be proven, or has been sold. A good example is BF xxxx, withdrawn shortly after allocation in 1904 as it 'suggested' Bloody Fool, and now used by DVLA to re-register vintage and veteran vehicles. They have a set of other unallocated plates that they use in the same way, with a nod to historic correctness - eg, ABC 123 for pre-war and 123 ABC for 1945-1963. Post 63 will get an age appropriate suffix (or indeed prefix) plate.
Many thanks for the detailed replies, chaps 
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