Scary lack of knowledge and responsibility !

Scary lack of knowledge and responsibility !

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duckers26

992 posts

173 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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Rovinghawk said:
Sensors have been known to fail. I like to occasionally check for myself.
Neither car even has a dipstick, there's an oil level gauge hidden the menus somewhere! Also it's handy that the warning lights distinguish between yellow for "do something" and red for imminent disaster.

Gary29

4,160 posts

99 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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This kind of thing isn't just limited to women and the youth of today.

My whole family haven't got a clue about how their cars work 'Gary will fix it' is usually their response.

I've an older brother who has never once opened his own bonnet or inflated tyres, he just about manages to refuel it.

I must have saved them literally £1000's worth of maintenance costs over the years, only time their cars ever see a professional garage is for an MOT.

The worst part is, they all own Fiats, so I'm usually a fairly busy DIY mechanic.

essIII

363 posts

144 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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No dipstick on an M135 - not even sure if there's a gauge buried deep in the hidden menus.

There's a yellow light that means "add a litre of oil pretty soon." and a red one that says "I meant sooner than that."

HustleRussell

24,709 posts

160 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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My brother is a practical guy, quantity surveyor, just re-decorated his house etc- but he didn’t even open the bonnet of his car for 20k miles. This wasn’t some brand new warrantied long-life service schedule car either, it was a 9 year old small hatch which unfortunately for him happened to be long overdue a cambelt.

Of course when the inevitable happened my brother and his equally oblivious fiancé talked about this as if it was ‘the car’s fault’.

My Dad had a second hand engine put in it and £500 lighter they were motoring again. I encouragingly remarked that the car should be good for another 12k miles or so. They were flabbergasted- why would a car they’ve just spent £500 quid on need attention after only 12k miles?

They’ve both been motoring for over a decade apparently completely unaware that cars need maintenance.

When my brother was leaving the country and needed to sell the car, and a friend of mine was looking for a cheap car, I matched them up. Yes, the car had been horribly neglected in its recent past, but it did drive okay and if it were cheap enough…

My brother wanted £2k for it. “It was £3k two years ago”… The fact he had raped it into the ground apparently didn’t enter into it.

SuperchargedVR6

3,138 posts

220 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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Rovinghawk said:
duckers26 said:
I don't think that much physical checking is really needed now as there is a warning light for all the important things including low tyre and oil that come on way before an actual problem has occurred.
Sensors have been known to fail. I like to occasionally check for myself.
Indeed. I don't think anyone would get onto an aeroplane if the pre-flight checks were sacked off in favour trusting a bunch of warning lights.

You can't blame some people though, I mean, BMW & Audi binning dipsticks!! Smacks of how dare you check your own car, trust our infallible warning system.

J4CKO

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41,588 posts

200 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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SturdyHSV said:
J4CKO said:
I am all for equality, but it is a two way street.
rofl

That's hilarious, do you have any upcoming gigs where I could pay to see more of this humour?

I know it should be a two way street, and it just perpetuates the problem to joke otherwise, but come now, men are the chimpish oafs at the butt of marketing jokes, that is our place. To be the simple minded moron who tries so hard but always gets it wrong, because we're just men, like Homer Simpson.

Now back to your lager and football, you childish oaf, and don't forget to carry all the shopping in at once and treat that as a huge victory because you're a blithering simpleton, whilst your good lady diversifies her investment portfolio on her iPad and rolls her eyes at you hehe
Lol, bang on !

Chris Hemsworth in the new Ghostbusters is a case in point, I am not going to be a male Germaine Greer or anything and can deal with a bit of stick but its going too far the other way now.

ladies are just as capable as men apart from the whole standing up to pee thing and no we cant produce a baby as a party piece but aside from that and an average difference in ultimate physical strength/height, the rest of it is pretty much evens for capability.

RizzoTheRat

25,167 posts

192 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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My Mrs once phoned me up to ask what one of the warning lights on my car was as it had come on while she was driving it. After a few attempts at her describing it I realised she meant the tyre pressure light...the one that looks like the carcass of a tyre with a bloody great exclamation mark in the middle.

The handbook was in the glovebox but she hadn't thought to look for that.

It was only some time later that I discovered she'd driven home before calling me, on the assumption that it probably wasn't that important rolleyes

J4CKO

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41,588 posts

200 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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RizzoTheRat said:
My Mrs once phoned me up to ask what one of the warning lights on my car was as it had come on while she was driving it. After a few attempts at her describing it I realised she meant the tyre pressure light...the one that looks like the carcass of a tyre with a bloody great exclamation mark in the middle.

The handbook was in the glovebox but she hadn't thought to look for that.

It was only some time later that I discovered she'd driven home before calling me, on the assumption that it probably wasn't that important rolleyes
I think people always assume on Road Wars, Police Camera Action or similar that a car running on its rims with sparks flying off is some kind of absconding criminal trying to escape the long arm of the law, but it may just be the same scenario as you describe biggrin

TwigtheWonderkid

43,387 posts

150 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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Rovinghawk said:
SturdyHSV said:
Washing machine comparison
Most of us know where the powder & laundry go in & whether we should add fabric conditioner. Most of us can deal with a burst hose. Most of us can check whether it's plugged in. Most of us can figure where a fault is & have a decent go at rectifying the straightforward problems.
rofl

Not even sure where ours is. I know we've got one because I remember buying it.

RizzoTheRat

25,167 posts

192 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Not even sure where ours is. I know we've got one because I remember buying it.
I remember when I was at school being round a mates house when his mother was ill, and it turned out his father didn't even know where to find a knife and fork in the kitchen biggrin

Mammasaid

3,844 posts

97 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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Gary29 said:
The worst part is, they all own Fiats, so I'm usually a fairly busy DIY mechanic.
you need to change your name to Tony then. wink

FurtiveFreddy

8,577 posts

237 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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RizzoTheRat said:
My Mrs once phoned me up to ask what one of the warning lights on my car was as it had come on while she was driving it. After a few attempts at her describing it I realised she meant the tyre pressure light...the one that looks like the carcass of a tyre with a bloody great exclamation mark in the middle.


Well, going by an earlier description of the oil light, I'd have said that could easily be mistaken for a warning that she'd dropped her spoon in the casserole.

motco

15,962 posts

246 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
motco said:
... still thinks, despite my pointing out the error of his ways, that the oil warning light coming on means top-up needed.
Isn't that exactly what it means?
At risk of being crapped on by a passing whoosh parrot, I shall reply seriously just in case you are asking seriously. No it is not what it means on most cars (BMW have a yellow top up light and a red pressure warning light, other may be similar) but it means that oil pressure is too low or absent and that the engine MUST be stopped at once and the cause established before restart - however brief that re-start might be. Knock the drive/gear lever into neutral and switch off the engine (not to position 1 but just enough to stop it) and coast to a halt. All within the realms of safety in the conditions of the time obviously. If you continue to drive with the pressure warning light on then the engine will seize bringing the car to a swift and uncontrolled stop. HTH

Leins

9,468 posts

148 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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Reminds me of the scene in Tequila Sunrise, between Gibson and his ex:

"The Mercedes burned up"

"The SLC? It's under warranty. Take it back, make them fix it!"

"You know those a$$holes. They claim I didn't have any oil in the engine"

StottyEvo

6,860 posts

163 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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J4CKO said:
Jesus, I see Feminism is selective and doesn't cover mundane jobs to keep your car roadworthy, she did have a bad accident the other week where she ended up with the car on its roof,


Regarding the accident, she said

"The road was extremely wet when it happened and the police said that it was solely down to the weather conditions"
The absolving of responsibility is what concerns me the most. She rolled a car onto its roof and genuinely doesn't believe she's at all at fault confused

In person, I've upset quite a few people over the years by telling them that something is their fault while they figuratively poke their fingers in their ears and shout la la la.

CharlesdeGaulle

26,276 posts

180 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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silverfoxcc said:
Oh FFS they walk and more worrying, drive among us.

I hope you were joking when you posted that s you left off the winky smiley face!

If not. get a bus pass, you sir are a danger on the road
Don't be a sanctimonious prick.
As others have observed, it clearly doesn't mean crack on as normal, but it does mean you've got to put some oil in the bloody thing.

dkatwa

570 posts

245 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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eldar said:
AH33 said:
The actual act of driving is about 5th or 6th in the list of priorities of the average woman driver. They don't care about it, why should they pay attention?
Not restricted to women drivers. Some men are equally deficient.
Speak for yourself...mind you, there is cap saying "710" in the engine bay...got no idea what it is :-)

J4CKO

Original Poster:

41,588 posts

200 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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StottyEvo said:
J4CKO said:
Jesus, I see Feminism is selective and doesn't cover mundane jobs to keep your car roadworthy, she did have a bad accident the other week where she ended up with the car on its roof,


Regarding the accident, she said

"The road was extremely wet when it happened and the police said that it was solely down to the weather conditions"
The absolving of responsibility is what concerns me the most. She rolled a car onto its roof and genuinely doesn't believe she's at all at fault confused

In person, I've upset quite a few people over the years by telling them that something is their fault while they figuratively poke their fingers in their ears and shout la la la.
Yeah, seems to be a trait, years ago, my cousin crashed into the car in front and said it wasnt her fault as her tyres were bald biggrin she is now a Police Officer herself !

I reversed into the neighbours car some years ago, it was my fault, I wanst looking properly, mitigated by privacy glass, a black car parked against a dark green hedge but at the end of the day my fault entirely for not looking properly.

If you leave the road, with no other cars involved and no extreme circumstances (mechanical failure, sheep etc) its your driving.





TwigtheWonderkid

43,387 posts

150 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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RizzoTheRat said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Not even sure where ours is. I know we've got one because I remember buying it.
I remember when I was at school being round a mates house when his mother was ill, and it turned out his father didn't even know where to find a knife and fork in the kitchen biggrin
When my mother in law died, it transpired that my father in law didn't know if he took sugar in his tea!!!

w00tman

605 posts

145 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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So, in the interests of self-learning and all of that, how does one go about learning how to do bits and pieces around the car?

I'm a big fan of driving and cars, but outside of topping up of various fluids, checking tyre depth, the real basic-of-the-basics, I couldnt tell you how or what to do to sort brakes, or diagnose a fault or ...

How does a beginner (mechanically speaking if not shown in age!) start to learn how to do more without f*cking it all up?

Don't shoot me!!