Saturday 13th August 2016

2017MY Range Rover updates

V6 petrol at one end of the range and SVAutobiography Dynamic at the other for the Range Rover facelift

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Believe it or not, the current L405 Range Rover has been around for more than three years now; the earliest cars are in fact now available for less than £50K. So for the 2017 model year, a range of updates more significant than usual have been introduced.

Best like red...

Following last year's SVAutobiography, there's now an SVAutobiography Dynamic, promised to deliver the "ultimate combination of performance and Range Rover luxury". So while it still uses the same 550hp supercharged V8 as the SVAutobiography, the Dynamic features a lower ride height (by 8mm), revised knuckles, links, springs and dampers, the Adaptive Dynamics technology seen elsewhere in the JLR range and the Dynamic Response anti-roll system. It gets Brembo brakes too, identified by red calipers.

Distinguishing the Dynamic are Graphite Atlas accents outside, wheel designs unique to the model and diamond quilted leather seats inside. On sale in the autumn, it will cost £132,800.

Elsewhere in the range, the supercharged petrol V6 seen in the F-Type is also now offered. Prices aren't yet confirmed but it offers 340hp, 332lb ft, 7.1 seconds to 60mph and 248g/km. It's likely to be a niche seller then, but it's there if you fancy.

... best really, really like red

Across the models, InControl Touch Pro has now been introduced to the Range Rover, as well as the Low Traction Launch assist first seen in the F-Pace. Advanced Tow Assist is also available, capable of automatically steering the vehicle and whatever you're towing using the Terrain Response selector. When you're going forwards again, the usual range of assists (blind spot, queue, lane keep) are there to keep you on the straight and narrow.

Prices start at £76,350 for the updated Range Rover in 3.0 TDV6 Vogue spec, a modest increase over the £75,850 currently asked. Will this latest raft of tweaks keep it towards the top of the luxury 4x4 class?

 

[Gecko1978]

it pains me I am too poor to afford one of these. £50k no longer gets you a good full sized 4x4 with things like the Q5 and Macan taking that price point and a full size SUV being closer to 60k now.

I wonder though do RR and Cayennes etc really start at there stated prices or are there deals to be done anyone know?

[Wills2]

The X5/XC90/Touareg/Discovery can all be had for under 50k you can almost squeeze a basic cayenne at 50k.

Not sure I like the 4 exhausts on the FFRR as pictured it's a car that looks better with them hidden.

[Tuvra]

The red one is an absolute horror show. I think I'd rather it in white and I hate white Range Rovers.

[Dale487]

Gecko1978 said:

it pains me I am too poor to afford one of these. £50k no longer gets you a good full sized 4x4 with things like the Q5 and Macan taking that price point and a full size SUV being closer to 60k now.

I wonder though do RR and Cayennes etc really start at there stated prices or are there deals to be done anyone know?

Porsche don't do discounts, becuase they don't need to - I never been in a position to test this my self but I've heard this from a number of sources and Porsche aren't the most profitable car company for nothing (& isn't the Cayenne their most profitable model too)

[mikearwas]

I love petrol engines like everyone else on here but I'm genuinely perplexed as to why they would bother integrating the petrol v6 on this? The diesel 6 is an epic power plant and far far more suitable for the car.

[redddraggon]

mikearwas said:

I love petrol engines like everyone else on here but I'm genuinely perplexed as to why they would bother integrating the petrol v6 on this? The diesel 6 is an epic power plant and far far more suitable for the car.

USA market?

[RacerMike]

redddraggon said:

mikearwas said:

I love petrol engines like everyone else on here but I'm genuinely perplexed as to why they would bother integrating the petrol v6 on this? The diesel 6 is an epic power plant and far far more suitable for the car.

USA market?

It#s been on sale in the US with the V6SC since launch. I guess there were enough people asking for it here that it warranted selling it...

[Clivey]

Wills2 said:

Not sure I like the 4 exhausts on the FFRR as pictured it's a car that looks better with them hidden.

Same here...although a subtle single exit on each side does look good. - I'd definitely get different tailpipes fitted; the quads aren't in keeping with the rest of the car at all and look like tacky aftermarket parts!

Other than that though, fantastic. Just not with a bright red interior! I'd have 2 if I came into some serious money; a TDV8 LWB and a 5.0 Supercharged SWB...and I'd actually use the former for overlanding!

[smithyithy]

Dale487 said:

Gecko1978 said:

it pains me I am too poor to afford one of these. £50k no longer gets you a good full sized 4x4 with things like the Q5 and Macan taking that price point and a full size SUV being closer to 60k now.

I wonder though do RR and Cayennes etc really start at there stated prices or are there deals to be done anyone know?

Porsche don't do discounts, becuase they don't need to - I never been in a position to test this my self but I've heard this from a number of sources and Porsche aren't the most profitable car company for nothing (& isn't the Cayenne their most profitable model too)

I'm sure I read somewhere recently that deals were to be had on Cayennes as there's a new model due at the end of the year / early next year.

Porsche Wolverhampton which is my local had literally about 30 Cayennes when they opened, all black 'S' models, and a few weeks later they were all gone.

[PhantomPH]

Clivey said:

Wills2 said:

Not sure I like the 4 exhausts on the FFRR as pictured it's a car that looks better with them hidden.

Same here...although a subtle single exit on each side does look good. - I'd definitely get different tailpipes fitted; the quads aren't in keeping with the rest of the car at all and look like tacky aftermarket parts!

Other than that though, fantastic. Just not with a bright red interior! I'd have 2 if I came into some serious money; a TDV8 LWB and a 5.0 Supercharged SWB...and I'd actually use the former for overlanding!

The 'straight out' exhausts are a signature of the big engine petrol models for a few generations now - although I think this is the first time they have been quad and not dual (but don't quote me).

I think I'm in the minority these days when I say I don't mind a quad exhaust....what I DO mind, is a quad exhaust where 2 of the pipes are decorative...*splode*

[porkercurtis]

Not everyone likes a diesel, even when they are as accomplished as those to be found in Range Rovers, so I welcome the choice of the smaller petrol engine being made available. It will be interesting to see what proportion of sales they achieve.

[daveco]

Quick question: would the Range Rover be top of the pile competition wise when it comes to current engine and body tech?

I read on Bloomberg that Jag's jeep is absolutely obliterating the competition in the US.

[Gecko1978]

smithyithy said:

Dale487 said:

Gecko1978 said:

it pains me I am too poor to afford one of these. £50k no longer gets you a good full sized 4x4 with things like the Q5 and Macan taking that price point and a full size SUV being closer to 60k now.

I wonder though do RR and Cayennes etc really start at there stated prices or are there deals to be done anyone know?

Porsche don't do discounts, becuase they don't need to - I never been in a position to test this my self but I've heard this from a number of sources and Porsche aren't the most profitable car company for nothing (& isn't the Cayenne their most profitable model too)

I'm sure I read somewhere recently that deals were to be had on Cayennes as there's a new model due at the end of the year / early next year.

Porsche Wolverhampton which is my local had literally about 30 Cayennes when they opened, all black 'S' models, and a few weeks later they were all gone.

Was a few years back now but I went to Hatfield Porsche Center for an open evening and they had a 996GTS convertible on display it was 56k and I recall it was bout 10 or 15k below list price. It was effectivly a demo car etc.

So while you might not be able to buy your chosen spec 911 at a discount they do have some that go for less. But as the Cayenne is their cash cow I wondered if they did deals on it. Sounds like from other poster that they do but just dont shout about it

[recordman]

The V6 petrol could prove to be popular. Diesels are likely to be targeted more by the taxman/low emission zones and the consumption of Adblue is likely to become a nuisance. LR say that the V8 diesels will use 1 litre about every 400 miles.

[Dale487]

Gecko1978 said:

smithyithy said:

Dale487 said:

Gecko1978 said:

it pains me I am too poor to afford one of these. £50k no longer gets you a good full sized 4x4 with things like the Q5 and Macan taking that price point and a full size SUV being closer to 60k now.

I wonder though do RR and Cayennes etc really start at there stated prices or are there deals to be done anyone know?

Porsche don't do discounts, becuase they don't need to - I never been in a position to test this my self but I've heard this from a number of sources and Porsche aren't the most profitable car company for nothing (& isn't the Cayenne their most profitable model too)

I'm sure I read somewhere recently that deals were to be had on Cayennes as there's a new model due at the end of the year / early next year.

Porsche Wolverhampton which is my local had literally about 30 Cayennes when they opened, all black 'S' models, and a few weeks later they were all gone.

Was a few years back now but I went to Hatfield Porsche Center for an open evening and they had a 996GTS convertible on display it was 56k and I recall it was bout 10 or 15k below list price. It was effectivly a demo car etc.

So while you might not be able to buy your chosen spec 911 at a discount they do have some that go for less. But as the Cayenne is their cash cow I wondered if they did deals on it. Sounds like from other poster that they do but just dont shout about it

Stock, ex-demo, pre-registered & the like are a bit different - particularly with models that are not far off being replaced

[Alex P]

RacerMike said:

redddraggon said:

mikearwas said:

I love petrol engines like everyone else on here but I'm genuinely perplexed as to why they would bother integrating the petrol v6 on this? The diesel 6 is an epic power plant and far far more suitable for the car.

USA market?

It#s been on sale in the US with the V6SC since launch. I guess there were enough people asking for it here that it warranted selling it...

At last! Perhaps with the relative success of the petrol XE at the affordable end of the XE range, JLR UK are finally realising there is a market for a petrol engine at the affordable (big selling) end of each of its model ranges! The supercharged engine has been available in many markets from launch in this, the RR Sport and Discovery/LR4. Many markets also get the 2.0 ecoboost across the entire range (not just in Dynamic) in the Discovery Sport and Evoque.

With the market/public perception beginning to move away from diesel + the development of petrol/electric hybrid power trains + the new range of Ingenium 4 cylinder and straight six petrol engines due in the future, perhaps JLR are paving the way for developing the 'affordable' petrol market again?

Also, if you live in cities, diesel really is not the best option for the health of your fellow citizens, or for the long term reliability of your vehicle, given the issues that have occurred with DPF regeneration etc.

I am just waiting for a 2.0 turbo Ingenium petrol XF to be launched as a family car (ideally an estate which is due next year) as a reason to buy a British built car again. The new XF is currently available with the Ford ecoboost 2.0 in other markets, just not in the UK. I just hope Jaguar UK actually offer a the new 2.0 Ingenium petrol in it when it is launched!

[Jonny TVR]

It looks the same on the outside ... what are the visual updates?

[Impasse]

I remember a few years ago reading of Land Rover's plans to take the even further RR upmarket with talk of V12s and super-exclusive options. Back then (just as the L322 was being launched, so around 2002) the predicted price of £100k+ seemed absurd and fanciful. Now a £132k pricetag is just another model in the brochure - but without a V12.

[tankplanker]

I wonder if the V6 was prompted by the T6 in the XC90 being popular (well as popular a petrol in a large SUV ever is)? The supercharged V6 is a far nicer engine than the 2L lump in the Volvo when I drove the F-Pace fitted with the v6 but I can't see it matching the 2L on economy or emissions.

I can't believe how much more the Range Rover costs than the Volvo now, £70k will get you a pretty much fully loaded T8 with the Polestar upgrade that is ~410BHP. The Range Rover is not really any bigger or better inside and only comes with 5 seats. I prefered the Volvo interior when I tried both earlier this year. Obviously the Range Rover knocks spots off a Volvo offroad (I had a lot of fun in a Range Rover @ LR's Solihull off road course) but how many new Range Rovers go properly off road?

[Clivey]

PhantomPH said:

The 'straight out' exhausts are a signature of the big engine petrol models for a few generations now - although I think this is the first time they have been quad and not dual (but don't quote me).

I think I'm in the minority these days when I say I don't mind a quad exhaust....what I DO mind, is a quad exhaust where 2 of the pipes are decorative...*splode*

I completely agree, except that quad exhausts need to suit the car. - They look fine on some...just not the Range Rover IMO.

These look much, much better...



...but I suppose subtle and tasteful isn't what the masses aspire to nowadays!