No such Thing as a slow car
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This reminds me of top gear where clarkson drove sedately in a m3 while someone drove like an idiot in the Prius
I had a 1 litre corsa as my first car it was slow it had no power exiting corners it had no power for the straights it was slow!
Ok it drove corners well and was well setup but all it took was whatever car I was trying to overtake to flex their right foot a little bit!
I had a 1 litre corsa as my first car it was slow it had no power exiting corners it had no power for the straights it was slow!
Ok it drove corners well and was well setup but all it took was whatever car I was trying to overtake to flex their right foot a little bit!
lee_fr200 said:
This reminds me of top gear where clarkson drove sedately in a m3 while someone drove like an idiot in the Prius
That was an economy thing though, proving that the prius stretched to its max used more fuel around the ring them the M3 driving the same pace, taking it slow relative to what it can really do.An uneducated plum in a slow car can keep up with moderately driven fast cars on B-roads providing the former is willing to commit far more heavily to each bend.
I have plenty such people trying to prove a point by keeping up in their low powered cars when driving either the Jag or the Cerbera. The difference is I'm only loading the car up on well sighted corners and slowing for the unsighted ones, using power to accelerate out of them as they open up. Poor person behind is foregoing that safety margin and braking harder, later and entering the corner closer to their car's limits of grip to close up the distance.
If you have nothing worth living for and don't care about others then cool.
I have plenty such people trying to prove a point by keeping up in their low powered cars when driving either the Jag or the Cerbera. The difference is I'm only loading the car up on well sighted corners and slowing for the unsighted ones, using power to accelerate out of them as they open up. Poor person behind is foregoing that safety margin and braking harder, later and entering the corner closer to their car's limits of grip to close up the distance.
If you have nothing worth living for and don't care about others then cool.
chaz1234 said:
. But in reality if you take the time to reply to this thread It will prove there are some serious ego issues there.
Says the man that boasts nothing can get past him in his Ford Ka.......OP does have a point. Talk of cars being faster A to B is bulls
t. The fastest driver is simple the one that is more willing to break speed limits and drive dangerously. A Ford Ka doesn't corner faster that other cars (probably a bit slower if on a race track unless the suspension and tyres have been changed). However, how fast you can safely go around a corner on the road doesn't usually have much to do with how much grip you have. If you are driving fast but safely it should be about whether you can stop within the distance you can see in front of you, it has to take into account things you can't see or know about (crap or dust on the road or poor road surface that suddenly changes the grip you have). Any idiot can barrel around a blind corner at high speed. Most of the time you can get away with it because there is nothing in the road. Most of the time...So what the OP is saying, is that he is willing to take more risks and drive more dangerously than other people. Bravo!
chaz1234 said:
Sick of posts saying certain cars are slow No car is slow It is the driver that is slow. Normally people who complain that a car is slow are in the wrong gear for the situation A good driver in a slow car on b roads can easily keep up with a bad driver in a fast car. all uk cars can easily do 70mph on a b road that is more than enough. I have 2 vehicles a peugeot partner van diesal and a ford ka 1.3 petrol where I live there is no motorways and not once Have I been unable to keep up with so called faster cars. Sure if there is a long straight they may pull away a bit but next corner I will be back on there tail and overtake them using the momentum I have saved from less braking during corner. Then if another very long straight comes up they will overtake me but at the next set of bends or traffic lights I will be up with them. When people realize the fastest modification anyone can make to a car is the driver people may stop Spending silly money getting cars remapped or chipping them. for no real world performance gains. I guess I am gonna get alot of hate replies to this from the people who cant drive fast and love the bragging rights of saying there car has so many bhp. But in reality if you take the time to reply to this thread It will prove there are some serious ego issues there.
Get a basic Smart Roadster and you can destroy TVR's, seriously!Patrick Bateman said:
Normally people who complain that a car is slow are...in a slow car.
The good old "it's pretty nippy you know" statement usually comes from those who own a 1.6 Ford Focus with 100bhp or similar in my experience 
I once worked with a chap who claimed his one litre Corsa (three cylinder perhaps?) "went like f
k".Clearly none of you have ever driven an old diesel landy (talking 60s series 2a)0 to 60 well it won't do 60, if you do want to measure acceleration then throw away the chronograph and buy a calendar, preferably one with a few spare months on it. There must be faster glaciers.... Still a hoot to drive though.
Tuvra said:
Thread should be retitled to:
Slow cars travelling at 50mph go faster than an F1 car going 25mph.
Yes, you can hustle most slow cars and hammer them. Any car can be put on it's limit. With a slow car that limit (brakes, steering, suspension, tyres) is usually reached far sooner.
While you can thrash some s
tty little eco box, it doesn't make it fast - just fun. It's been discussed on PH lots of times the benefits and enjoyment you can get from thrashing less capable cars, and also how very powerful cars with amazing handling are a bit pointless for the UK roads.
Years ago I bought the ex-wife a 1.2 Seat Ibiza. It was a hoot to thrash it as you could get it on the limits of its handling and grip without doing silly speeds.... but as soon as you show it a faster patch of road it became a ballache.
I think that's why the Mx5 is so enduringly popular. Probably about the right balance of handling and power for UK roads. You can throw it about without getting to license losing speeds too often, and it doesn't feel *too* slow when roads are more straight (alright... a little bit slow).
A slow car is a relative thing, such as a fast car is.
Some people may get into a 60hp Ka and think it's quick. Just the same as people may get into a 300hp Golf and think it's slow.
There's something cool about seeing a slower car hustled across a country road, as is there's something cool about seeing a fast car driven properly as well.
There are slow and fast cars, but they serve different purposes.
Some people may get into a 60hp Ka and think it's quick. Just the same as people may get into a 300hp Golf and think it's slow.
There's something cool about seeing a slower car hustled across a country road, as is there's something cool about seeing a fast car driven properly as well.
There are slow and fast cars, but they serve different purposes.
lee_fr200 said:
This reminds me of top gear where clarkson drove sedately in a m3 while someone drove like an idiot in the Prius
I had a 1 litre corsa as my first car it was slow it had no power exiting corners it had no power for the straights it was slow!
Ok it drove corners well and was well setup but all it took was whatever car I was trying to overtake to flex their right foot a little bit!
An extreme example of this can be seen at most F1 races, how hard does the safety car driver have to work to keep in front of the field, when most drivers are getting bored of going so slowly?I had a 1 litre corsa as my first car it was slow it had no power exiting corners it had no power for the straights it was slow!
Ok it drove corners well and was well setup but all it took was whatever car I was trying to overtake to flex their right foot a little bit!
I've driven cars that are too slow. I don't even need to quote 0-60 times, in gear times, etc. Some of them can't keep to 70 when getting to a hill on a motorway...
FN2TypeR said:
Patrick Bateman said:
Normally people who complain that a car is slow are...in a slow car.
The good old "it's pretty nippy you know" statement usually comes from those who own a 1.6 Ford Focus with 100bhp or similar in my experience I once worked with a chap who claimed his one litre Corsa (three cylinder perhaps?) "went like f
k".I really think that people who haven't driven or ridden in a "fast" car driven well have absolutely no idea what the cares a capable of. I have driven a few fast cars but the 575 Maranello still amazed me with its acceleration when it was already doing well over a 100mph
blueg33 said:
FN2TypeR said:
Patrick Bateman said:
Normally people who complain that a car is slow are...in a slow car.
The good old "it's pretty nippy you know" statement usually comes from those who own a 1.6 Ford Focus with 100bhp or similar in my experience I once worked with a chap who claimed his one litre Corsa (three cylinder perhaps?) "went like f
k".I really think that people who haven't driven or ridden in a "fast" car driven well have absolutely no idea what the cares a capable of. I have driven a few fast cars but the 575 Maranello still amazed me with its acceleration when it was already doing well over a 100mph
I may or may not have crashed that car and written it off**
- Definitely did.
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