No such Thing as a slow car

[ChilliWhizz]

DIW35 said:

OP you should ask Alonso if there is such a thing as a slow car. I'm pretty sure his opinion will differ from yours.

To be fair, the McLaren isn't slow. It's just not as fast as, er, a lot of the other cars on the grid... Or fast enough for Fernando... but it's still very quick... relatively when compared with the slower cars....

OK, feck it, it's slow.

[Flibble]

RT76 said:

Amusing thread.

Read the OP and wondered what the issue really was. Took from it that the OP likes to feel like he's on the edge and achieving something with his little Ka on local roads.

All I can suggest is that if there is overtaking of anything remotely more powerful than the Ka (a moderate TDi for example) then it is either through illegal speeds or dangerous driving, or the other driver doesn't fancy hospital meals and would prefer that the idiot lost control in their field of vision.

Then the last post reaffirmed the cock waving nature of the OP.

If you like to drive quickly, buy a car that is more capable. If you like to feel like a driving god, buy a car that has a pitiful engine output but is set up to go round corners and stop more quickly than the engine can make it go. A 2004 Ka with standard suspension and brakes is not really suitable.

• I've seen MINI Coopers (R50's) haul with more powerful/capable cars on a b-road blast because the suspension geometry, brakes and tyres have been set up to carry corner speeds properly, so that the car is less likely to be overloaded other than by driver error.

That was my thought. The fastest driver on a B road is the one with least concern for safety.

[battered]

That's certainly true these days, all modern cars are reasonably fast compared to truly slow cars like 2CVs and 998cc Triumph Heralds.

I differ with your view of the Ka though - they are underpowered but the brakes and suspension are more than up to higher speeds. My Mum had one, it was no ball of fire but across country on a winding road it would go just about as fast as you wanted it to (or dared) given a clear road and the time to get it up to speed. The lack of power was apparent when you needed to overtake or accelerate uphill.

[RizzoTheRat]

Flibble said:

That was my thought. The fastest driver on a B road is the one with least concern for safety.

Sometimes, but most often it tend to be the person who's willing to overtake safely rather than sit at 40mph in a 60 limit. A lot of PH'ers forget that this forum is not a representative demographic of the UK road users, the vast majority of drivers are just getting from A-B and a lot couldn't even tell you what make their car is

[theboss]

RizzoTheRat said:

Sometimes, but most often it tend to be the person who's willing to overtake safely rather than sit at 40mph in a 60 limit. A lot of PH'ers forget that this forum is not a representative demographic of the UK road users, the vast majority of drivers are just getting from A-B and a lot couldn't even tell you what make their car is

Exactly this - plus the fact that opportunities to overtake safely are generally increased with power.

An overwhelming majority don't like overtaking or being overtaken. I sat behind a convoy of 8 yesterday, all trundling behind car doing 35 on a wide open NSL A road for miles on end. When a nice long unobstructed straight appeared I passed them all safely. The only other motorist to do the same was a traffic cop in the marked up 330d ahead of me, everyone else just sat in line. It's getting worse, I swear.

[coppice]

Some are slower than others and some are so quick that they can flatter even a poor driver , when it comes to making progress. But this car thing is - or at least should be- a broad church and I 've had nearly as much fun (and had to drive better ) when making progress in a 2CV or 106XND as I have in my R400 Seven. The mistake is to conflate fast with good and slow with bad .Good driving is good driving , whether in a Citroen Nemo or a P1 McLaren , a Formula Ford 1600 or a Red Bull F1 car (if not a McLaren Honda , sadly )

[Halmyre]

I had a Chrysler Matiz as a courtesy car for 24 hours once. It felt like 24 years. My wife's hairdryer is more powerful for about the same noise level. Maybe ragging the tits off it might have stirred it to life, but I didn't want to abuse the garage's kind gesture. I say 'kind', it would have been kinder to wallop me in the kneecaps with a lump hammer. I was reminded of a comment by my dad's cousin who, asked about the power of a Standard Eight, replied "it wouldnae pull yer bunnet aff".

[austinsmirk]

The problem with those with mental health and their care these days, is they are often in a community and have access to the internet.

In days gone by they'd have been locked down on a ward somewhere. I guess this explains this pointless and strange post by the OP.

[Flibble]

RizzoTheRat said:

Flibble said:

That was my thought. The fastest driver on a B road is the one with least concern for safety.

Sometimes, but most often it tend to be the person who's willing to overtake safely rather than sit at 40mph in a 60 limit. A lot of PH'ers forget that this forum is not a representative demographic of the UK road users, the vast majority of drivers are just getting from A-B and a lot couldn't even tell you what make their car is

That's also true, but assuming the driver is trying to make progress then there won't be much difference between cars other than safety margins. The vast majority of corners in my experience are vision limited not grip limited in a modern car, so the main factor in how fast you can go is how ballsy you are about driving around blind corners.

[RizzoTheRat]

Agreed, but in my experience there's a lot more slow drivers on the road than there are slow cars.

My first car was a 1.1 Mk2 fiesta, being young and foolish I generally thrashed it everywhere and usually got away first from traffic lights and was held up by traffic rather than holding up traffic. If mentioned this once on a forum which led to loads of idiots telling me I was was wrong as my car was slower than theirs.

[WJNB]

Envy - a personality disorder expressed as anger at failure or lack of recognition.

[chaz1234]

Quick Return Last day on Uk soil. Thanks for all the replies Some genuine comments. Some funny ones. I do own my own house and have paid for it I did have a interest only mortgage but cerro porteno results have improved and have paid that off. I Probably wont be back here for a few months. However I Look forward to my return where the comments about The op`s mental health have increased as I am sure they will. Mostly the negative posts have been interesting But several of those posters have also hinted at mental health issues Interesting really. Maybe a theme developing here? Anyway I will be back in 7 months and check into this forum.

Bye for now Guys and girls

[everyeggabird]

That new fangled internet thingy is only available in Britain at the moment. The rest of the world will be getting it soon.

[LaDS3arri]

everyeggabird said:

That new fangled internet thingy is only available in Britain at the moment. The rest of the world will be getting it soon.

Op lives in a big house but spends most of the year abroad, he doesn't have Internet access outside of it and drives an old lady car while exclaiming how fast he is. He appears to be the biggest walking contradiction going.

[chaz1234]

Oh what a joy it is to come back to the uk and read the replies to this thread. The new fangled internet thing is available to me if I wish to have it. But here many people have no interest in it. Me driving a slow car and still no actually genuine comment explaining why a car is slow when speed limit in uk is 70mph. And as far as I am aware all cars sold in uk will do 70mph. We also now have the clever person saying I am a contradiction. Best advice I can give you is read through the topic I started from page 1. No more to say now I will be back at Christmas to reply too comments. I don`t use internet abroad. Mainly because I actually enjoy my life more without it. Hopefully that answers some of your attempted smart replies about internet being a new fangled thing abroad.

[chaz1234]

LaDS3arri said:

Op lives in a big house but spends most of the year abroad, he doesn't have Internet access outside of it and drives an old lady car while exclaiming how fast he is. He appears to be the biggest walking contradiction going.

I said I owned a house worth 500k I did not state it was big. You are correct on point 2 I do have internet access if I wanted it but have chosen not to use it. Driving a old lady car that is your view on the car I drive when I am in uk have no interest in debating if the car is a old lady car or not with you. Now I am the biggest contradiction going. As I stated in earlier reply read the topic from page one to the end you will see there is no contradiction let alone the biggest walking contradiction when I drive a car? Walking contradiction. I really do look forward too all the smart replies when I visit the uk and use the internet for 30 minutes. At Christmas for a skype call.

[e8_pack]

Buying a decent car isn't a loss maker these days anyway, so get one bought. And give the Ka to your nephew when he passes his test.

[Speed addicted]

chaz1234 said:

Oh what a joy it is to come back to the uk and read the replies to this thread. The new fangled internet thing is available to me if I wish to have it. But here many people have no interest in it. Me driving a slow car and still no actually genuine comment explaining why a car is slow when speed limit in uk is 70mph. And as far as I am aware all cars sold in uk will do 70mph. We also now have the clever person saying I am a contradiction. Best advice I can give you is read through the topic I started from page 1. No more to say now I will be back at Christmas to reply too comments. I don`t use internet abroad. Mainly because I actually enjoy my life more without it. Hopefully that answers some of your attempted smart replies about internet being a new fangled thing abroad.

70mph may be the speed limit, but where I live there are A roads with overtaking opportunities (you get these in the North) where something like a Ka wouldn't be able to overtake but something like my 645 has the acceleration to get past in a much shorter space.
Even more so on the bike where instant acceleration is available.

So in the slow car you may not be able to go over 35-40 as the old dear in front of you is in the way and you don't have the power to get past. I'll be able to make significantly better progress even traveling at the speed limit.

None of this is likely to apply to you if you live in a city.

[chaz1234]

Speed addicted said:

70mph may be the speed limit, but where I live there are A roads with overtaking opportunities (you get these in the North) where something like a Ka wouldn't be able to overtake but something like my 645 has the acceleration to get past in a much shorter space.
Even more so on the bike where instant acceleration is available.

So in the slow car you may not be able to go over 35-40 as the old dear in front of you is in the way and you don't have the power to get past. I'll be able to make significantly better progress even traveling at the speed limit.

None of this is likely to apply to you if you live in a city.

Thankyou for the reply to this post I do agree with your points 100% A car with more power is safer for overtaking than a low powered car. And I agree you will make much better progress on busy a roads in a more powerful car due to the safer overtaking ability you have.Your car will also have better brakes to reduce the risk of a collision with another road user. My point in the first post I made is that no car is slow and I stand by that. If only people would have responded in the mannor you did to my post there would be none of this terrible attempted bullying and harsh comments towards my post. Everyone here decided They wanted to make themselves look clever and make offensive replies and abuse me. Expecting me to get involved in a war with them. I walked away and they stopped.

Later on when I returned stating reasons and logically pointing things out they all decided I was mentally ill., I wonder now how many of the people that placed the mentally ill replies are still a member here now. I would be very surprised if any of them are .

Be back at Christmas too check replies Thanks again for a very good reply speed addicted

[Shiv_P]

You can fk off

I drive a Fiesta 1.25 with 75bhp, and driving down A46/A6 which are fast dual carriageways this is TOO SLOW

Yes it is TOO SLOW


TOO

SLOW