Cars types or manufacturers you would never purchase.
Discussion
BMW - I was within Rover Group under BMW's tenure, and the way that they utterly shafted and pillaged the company was unreal. I swore blind I'd never contribute another penny to BMW's coffers. They could make a car with a button that resurrected the dead and I still wouldn't buy it.
Anything French. Have done so in the past and never again. I've had enough of mechanical components made of cheese and Russian Roulette electronics.
Any MPV or SUV. Give me a decent large estate car any day.
Anything French. Have done so in the past and never again. I've had enough of mechanical components made of cheese and Russian Roulette electronics.
Any MPV or SUV. Give me a decent large estate car any day.
More car types for me rather than specific brands. I'd never buy an SUV as I don't see the need for them in the main part and cars that are style over substance are not my thing,
That said I'm not a big fan of a lot of Japaenes brands, no specific reason just none that really do much for me.
That said I'm not a big fan of a lot of Japaenes brands, no specific reason just none that really do much for me.
As someone who has run a 2006 Astra for the last 6 years with no major problems or breakdowns, I probably wouldn't entertain any of the current Vauxhall range. They do seem to have lost their way a bit. My dad bought a 2010 Astra (the shape that's just been replaced) and he isn't that impressed with it. 1.4 model which isn't that fast. And a boot that seems to attract water. Also it mists up in the winter quite badly. He just can't get to the bottom of it and says he's getting rid of it. A 6 year old car shouldn't be leaking or misting up like it does.
I've also driven a recent Corsa. 1.2 petrol. Can't say I would spend the money to buy one.
I'd also avoid buying Fiat. I don't like how their current range just seems to be based on different variations of the 500. The 500L must be one of the ugliest vehicles out there. I had a friend whos wife always insisted on buying Fiat, as far back as the Tipo and original Punto. Electrical problems with every model they had. I don't know if that has always been at the back of my mind and made me avoid even looking at a Fiat.
Citroen. I like some of their styling but had a couple of 90's Citroens in the past, both with their own quirks. Mainly electrical and engine management related issues. Sort of put me off and I would be kicking myself if I bought one only to have similar issues. As Citroen were useless at solving the issues last time round.
Toyota. I've always thought due to their reliability record, it would be handy to have something reliable to get to work.(however misguided possibly the thought is that they are any more reliable than other makes). Then I would see how bland and how old fashioned the Auris or the Corolla before it looked. Especially the interiors.
But when looking for a car I will look at most brands (except Fiat), just in case something jumps out at me. With that mindset I have bought a couple of Renaults in the past. A 2001 Clio which was replaced by a 2002 Laguna. None of which suffered any major problems when I owned them. Could be luck more than judgement!
I've also driven a recent Corsa. 1.2 petrol. Can't say I would spend the money to buy one.
I'd also avoid buying Fiat. I don't like how their current range just seems to be based on different variations of the 500. The 500L must be one of the ugliest vehicles out there. I had a friend whos wife always insisted on buying Fiat, as far back as the Tipo and original Punto. Electrical problems with every model they had. I don't know if that has always been at the back of my mind and made me avoid even looking at a Fiat.
Citroen. I like some of their styling but had a couple of 90's Citroens in the past, both with their own quirks. Mainly electrical and engine management related issues. Sort of put me off and I would be kicking myself if I bought one only to have similar issues. As Citroen were useless at solving the issues last time round.
Toyota. I've always thought due to their reliability record, it would be handy to have something reliable to get to work.(however misguided possibly the thought is that they are any more reliable than other makes). Then I would see how bland and how old fashioned the Auris or the Corolla before it looked. Especially the interiors.
But when looking for a car I will look at most brands (except Fiat), just in case something jumps out at me. With that mindset I have bought a couple of Renaults in the past. A 2001 Clio which was replaced by a 2002 Laguna. None of which suffered any major problems when I owned them. Could be luck more than judgement!
Edited by ch108 on Saturday 27th August 20:31
simonr100 said:
I would never own a Volvo - they are associated with those 65+ years of age with no taste and who can't drive(totally unaware of those around them).I would hope that when I am that age that I will still have some sense of style and avoid crap like Volvos! I guess those that buy them also haven't had their life turn out quite as good as they hoped of they would have bought a premium brand rather than a Volvo.
What a steaming pile of patronising horses
t.No modern VW, from bitter experience (Polo) On an admittedly small sample of friends cars, Citroens (Grand Picasso X 2) are more reliable and a more pleasant place to be than bigger VWs (Touran) so perhaps not a good idea to rule out all French cars. Having had only estate cars for the last 16 years, I would rule out saloons as my main car, too impracticable.
Edited by Justin Case on Saturday 27th August 21:14
280E said:
ELUSIVEJIM said:
Just saw a brand new Range Rover Evoque Convertible in white.
Is this the most pointless car on sale?
Sounds like a classy Essex motor to meIs this the most pointless car on sale?
Essex mowtah? Jewwannersmaaakinnerfaaakinmarrrf or summik?
Getcha faaakin eaaad ahhhht yer bleeedin arse an klock the faaakin alloys an pryvat plate on that. Faaakin Kaaant.
Not a brand but a company - I wouldn't entertain the idea of buying anything that General Motors make under their various names. They're always value engineered to be just good enough that they aren't outright appalling, but just st enough that they saved every penny. With every new pile of dross they roll out we hear it's nowhere near as crap as the last twenty, but they never fail to disappoint. Their consistent cynical attitude to their customers, creditors, workers, and investors is manifested in every rubbish car they sell.
t enough that they saved every penny. With every new pile of dross they roll out we hear it's nowhere near as crap as the last twenty, but they never fail to disappoint. Their consistent cynical attitude to their customers, creditors, workers, and investors is manifested in every rubbish car they sell.Lester H said:
280E said:
In 36 years of car ownership, I have never had a single Japanese model. I'm sure they're worthily reliable, but just find them as dull as ditchwater.
Oh,they are. Both.legless said:
BMW - I was within Rover Group under BMW's tenure, and the way that they utterly shafted and pillaged the company was unreal. I swore blind I'd never contribute another penny to BMW's coffers. They could make a car with a button that resurrected the dead and I still wouldn't buy it.
Funny, my dad worked there also and he's bought nothing but BMW's ever since.caelite said:
Audemars said:
No saloons, no hatchbacks, no long estates.
Nothing german nor french
No Ford, no vauxhall, no hyundai, no kia.
Nothing that isnt fully kitted out (at the expense of someone else).
Are you one of those bicycle nazi's we hear so much about? Nothing german nor french
No Ford, no vauxhall, no hyundai, no kia.
Nothing that isnt fully kitted out (at the expense of someone else).
lostkiwi said:
I'd never buy a Bugatti, Zonda or the like.
The reality of ownership would probably not match the expectation.
So don't try something just in case it disappoints? That's quite a mantra you've got there.The reality of ownership would probably not match the expectation.
I imagine you also wouldn't date Margot Robbie just in case she ended up being bad in bed or a bit high maintenance?
Land Rover for me, I worked on a few in Italy when I did a stint as a grease monkey in a Tata and Rover garage in ne get.
Nasty to drive, easy to work on but the engines seemed a bit crap, leaky messes usually but seemed to drive in okay.
I probably won't have another VAG. Dull driving experience and official network service issues for me, but the 1.8 20v turbo is a great engine IMO!
Nasty to drive, easy to work on but the engines seemed a bit crap, leaky messes usually but seemed to drive in okay.
I probably won't have another VAG. Dull driving experience and official network service issues for me, but the 1.8 20v turbo is a great engine IMO!
Audemars said:
No saloons, no hatchbacks, no long estates.
Nothing german nor french
No Ford, no vauxhall, no hyundai, no kia.
Nothing that isnt fully kitted out (at the expense of someone else).
I fNothing german nor french
No Ford, no vauxhall, no hyundai, no kia.
Nothing that isnt fully kitted out (at the expense of someone else).
king love you Audemars. Or should I call you 6 figs? But I am far richer than you. Just so you know.CABC said:
Aldi.
for engineering & packaging reasons. They've dumbed down the car to a transportation device;
- no brake feel. for sure they brake to a stop very well, but that's not the point.
- no steering feel
- hard suspension 'because sporty'. er no, just bad suspension.
- engines way too far forward. hideous balance
They've built their cars very well according to their spec. They're target market is just not me.
they (Aldi) do some cracking deals on booze however, I must be asleep when I go there, must remember to look for cars next time I am infor engineering & packaging reasons. They've dumbed down the car to a transportation device;
- no brake feel. for sure they brake to a stop very well, but that's not the point.
- no steering feel
- hard suspension 'because sporty'. er no, just bad suspension.
- engines way too far forward. hideous balance
They've built their cars very well according to their spec. They're target market is just not me.
Oh and in keeping with the thread, would never buy any kind of SUV or anything diesel...
Edited by briang9 on Saturday 27th August 23:49
simonr100 said:
I would never own a Volvo - they are associated with those 65+ years of age with no taste and who can't drive(totally unaware of those around them).I would hope that when I am that age that I will still have some sense of style and avoid crap like Volvos! I guess those that buy them also haven't had their life turn out quite as good as they hoped of they would have bought a premium brand rather than a Volvo.
I dislike the current image of Audi but I love some of the older cars like the RS2
I assume this post is being deliberately provocative, but thought I should jump to the defence anyway. I don't own a Volvo but have been in a few, I guess it depends on how you define premium brand, but if you include ride quality and comfort then they are hard to beat. Plus the bigger petrol engines are a lot of fun, I imagine good to surprise a few 'premium brand' drivers out there I dislike the current image of Audi but I love some of the older cars like the RS2
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