Lovely Cars: Interesting, Classic, Retro, Barge 5-10k
Discussion
W00DY said:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1997-MASERATI-GHIBLI-WI...
In a lot of ways it's a bit rubbish, but that just makes me want it more.
biggbn said:
W00DY said:
I think that's a rather horrid mix of a classic shape and modern interior. 
CharlesdeGaulle said:
biggbn said:
W00DY said:
I think that's a rather horrid mix of a classic shape and modern interior. simonrockman said:
Worth it just to lean on the bar at the next ZT owner's club meeting..."Of course, mine's the fastest, as it's got the Mustang engine, you know"
"Oh, really... ?"
W00DY said:
CharlesdeGaulle said:
biggbn said:
W00DY said:
I think that's a rather horrid mix of a classic shape and modern interior. https://www.ppscltd.co.uk/used/chevrolet/camaro/z2...
Quite appealing. No idea if it is well priced or not - appears to be the only one for sale!
Quite appealing. No idea if it is well priced or not - appears to be the only one for sale!
PrinceRupert said:
https://www.ppscltd.co.uk/used/chevrolet/camaro/z2...
Quite appealing. No idea if it is well priced or not - appears to be the only one for sale!
I think that’s a reasonable price. These come in two flavours - V6 and V8 - and everyone wants the V8. Quite appealing. No idea if it is well priced or not - appears to be the only one for sale!
V8 cars don’t ever seem to sell for below five grand, and this one is low mileage and in nice condition.
Fourth gen Camaros are a bit divisive on PH, but I like them. The obvious 1990s British V8 coupe alternative is the Jag XK8, and you can get a pretty decent XK8 for £7k, without any left hand drive weirdness...
spreadsheet monkey said:
I think that’s a reasonable price. These come in two flavours - V6 and V8 - and everyone wants the V8.
V8 cars don’t ever seem to sell for below five grand, and this one is low mileage and in nice condition.
Fourth gen Camaros are a bit divisive on PH, but I like them. The obvious 1990s British V8 coupe alternative is the Jag XK8, and you can get a pretty decent XK8 for £7k, without any left hand drive weirdness...
The XK8 is far from a paragon of dynamic virtue, but it must have been twice the asking price of one of these (in the US) when new and as you'd expect it's a far more sophisticated car than this in terms of suspension, powertrain, NVH, and even build. These things were buttons to buy new in the US and you need to set your expectations accordingly.V8 cars don’t ever seem to sell for below five grand, and this one is low mileage and in nice condition.
Fourth gen Camaros are a bit divisive on PH, but I like them. The obvious 1990s British V8 coupe alternative is the Jag XK8, and you can get a pretty decent XK8 for £7k, without any left hand drive weirdness...
You'd have to really want the novelty of running a Camaro in the UK to spunk £7k on that, aside from mechanical robustness I can't think of any objective ways in which it's superior to an £8k XK8, CLK500, CL500, BMW 645i or 650i etc.
stickleback123 said:
The XK8 is far from a paragon of dynamic virtue, but it must have been twice the asking price of one of these (in the US) when new and as you'd expect it's a far more sophisticated car than this in terms of suspension, powertrain, NVH, and even build. These things were buttons to buy new in the US and you need to set your expectations accordingly.
You'd have to really want the novelty of running a Camaro in the UK to spunk £7k on that, aside from mechanical robustness I can't think of any objective ways in which it's superior to an £8k XK8, CLK500, CL500, BMW 645i or 650i etc.
I would be much less concerned of potential bork running the Camaro than a CL500/645i/650i/XK8 (I understand the CLK500 is pretty bulletproof). I would also suggest it is a slightly more interesting / left-field choice, rather than yet another old German car, if that sort of thing matters to you ...You'd have to really want the novelty of running a Camaro in the UK to spunk £7k on that, aside from mechanical robustness I can't think of any objective ways in which it's superior to an £8k XK8, CLK500, CL500, BMW 645i or 650i etc.
But yes, I am sure a 4k mid 2000s CLK500 will be objectively the better car than the 7k mid 90s Camaro in every way.
I've always fancied running some old American thing for a bit, but I've been put off by the high UK asking prices relative to their competence, and when I've seen them at car shows or come across an impromptu meet there is definitely a certain "ownership profile" that I'm not sure I'd want to be associated with; the US Car Ownership Club register isn't the only register many of them are on, I'm sure.
stickleback123 said:
I've always fancied running some old American thing for a bit, but I've been put off by the high UK asking prices relative to their competence, and when I've seen them at car shows or come across an impromptu meet there is definitely a certain "ownership profile" that I'm not sure I'd want to be associated with; the US Car Ownership Club register isn't the only register many of them are on, I'm sure.
Peter Kay's 'Johnny Utah' from That Peter Kay Thing, and Peter Serafinowicz's 'Tex' in I'm Alan Partridge both really put the nail in the coffin of my ambitions to run an American car.There are a couple of cars that I want so much that I'd decide it wasn't a problem. Chiefly a Grand Wagoneer.
stickleback123 said:
I've always fancied running some old American thing for a bit, but I've been put off by the high UK asking prices relative to their competence, and when I've seen them at car shows or come across an impromptu meet there is definitely a certain "ownership profile" that I'm not sure I'd want to be associated with; the US Car Ownership Club register isn't the only register many of them are on, I'm sure.
It's strange. Imagine going to a BMW or Mercedes Benz meet and everyone was dressed in Lederhosen and collarless felt jackets, listening to Oompah music, eating white boiled sausage & sauerkraut and drinking huge quarts of beer, completely into a stereotyped German/Bavarian lifestyle.It's not as bad as it used to be, but it's still there. Elvis, cowboy boots, The South's Gonna Rise Again, tassle jackets and line dancing. Even more bizarre, particularly with the classic fifties stuff, the original owner profile would've been very conservative, smart suited and literally would've hated Elvis.
W00DY said:
The original Golf is super popular but its appeal has always rather escaped me. My mother had one which I learned to drive in. It was horrible to drive - the MG Metro my driving instructor had was a country mile better - as was the Peugeot 309 she replace it with. That was a much nicer car than the Golf generally. The little Peugeot had better steering, better brakes, better ride and handling and was more comfortable. Golfs are horrible! - But such a following.SpeckledJim said:
Peter Kay's 'Johnny Utah' from That Peter Kay Thing, and Peter Serafinowicz's 'Tex' in I'm Alan Partridge both really put the nail in the coffin of my ambitions to run an American car.
There are a couple of cars that I want so much that I'd decide it wasn't a problem. Chiefly a Grand Wagoneer.
I'd happily run a Grand Wagoneer, or a 4 litre XJ Cherokee. They don't seem to have the same weirdo ownership profile as the "sports" cars and rubbish saloons.There are a couple of cars that I want so much that I'd decide it wasn't a problem. Chiefly a Grand Wagoneer.
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