Lovely Cars: Interesting, Classic, Retro, Barge 5-10k
Discussion
ferrisbueller said:
Generally speaking, how reliable are the auto boxes in these old barges once you get 150k+ miles on them?
Depends on the barge/trans in question and how it has been maintained and treated.At least in my experience although they might not be totally kaput, they do tend to show some wear.
I'm not sure if/when the moon mileage S600 has had a transmission replacement, but when compared with cars with the exact same transmission with ~80k and even one with 160k, it feels definitely feels harsher on gearchanges and interestingly, has very different torque converter characteristics with the younger boxes more willing to slush not just into gears, but on and off throttle as it takes up and disconnects drive from the engine.
And I really don't think its a matter of the transmission being dead/dying. It's been like this for the last 15,000 and has never once caused any issues or any strange shifts, its probably likely "worn" and compensating by limiting the amount of slippage. I genuinely didn't notice until I drove Stickleback's car and then redrove my 220.
*Ironically I was pricing up transmission rebuilds today and fully expect mine to instantly fail now that I've said the above.
ferrisbueller said:
Generally speaking, how reliable are the auto boxes in these old barges once you get 150k+ miles on them?
Are you talking Audi or in general?I've got a 5 speed auto in my s211 and I'm upto 146,000 miles.
I had an issue with it last year.... something to do with a solenoid on the lever side of the box. It's a known issue (apparently) and my gearbox The Man said he'd seen quite a few.
The box was still working but it didn't always know which gear it was in.
Anyway, it was a £400ish fix but it's a bit of a pain, as it needed to be sent off somewhere to be fixed. So it's about 7 days from start to finish.
Other than that they're apparently very reliable boxes, as long as you get them serviced.
mondayo said:
ferrisbueller said:
Generally speaking, how reliable are the auto boxes in these old barges once you get 150k+ miles on them?
Are you talking Audi or in general?I've got a 5 speed auto in my s211 and I'm upto 146,000 miles.
I had an issue with it last year.... something to do with a solenoid on the lever side of the box. It's a known issue (apparently) and my gearbox The Man said he'd seen quite a few.
The box was still working but it didn't always know which gear it was in.
Anyway, it was a £400ish fix but it's a bit of a pain, as it needed to be sent off somewhere to be fixed. So it's about 7 days from start to finish.
Other than that they're apparently very reliable boxes, as long as you get them serviced.
ferrisbueller said:
mondayo said:
ferrisbueller said:
Generally speaking, how reliable are the auto boxes in these old barges once you get 150k+ miles on them?
Are you talking Audi or in general?I've got a 5 speed auto in my s211 and I'm upto 146,000 miles.
I had an issue with it last year.... something to do with a solenoid on the lever side of the box. It's a known issue (apparently) and my gearbox The Man said he'd seen quite a few.
The box was still working but it didn't always know which gear it was in.
Anyway, it was a £400ish fix but it's a bit of a pain, as it needed to be sent off somewhere to be fixed. So it's about 7 days from start to finish.
Other than that they're apparently very reliable boxes, as long as you get them serviced.
Bonefish Blues said:
ferrisbueller said:
mondayo said:
ferrisbueller said:
Generally speaking, how reliable are the auto boxes in these old barges once you get 150k+ miles on them?
Are you talking Audi or in general?I've got a 5 speed auto in my s211 and I'm upto 146,000 miles.
I had an issue with it last year.... something to do with a solenoid on the lever side of the box. It's a known issue (apparently) and my gearbox The Man said he'd seen quite a few.
The box was still working but it didn't always know which gear it was in.
Anyway, it was a £400ish fix but it's a bit of a pain, as it needed to be sent off somewhere to be fixed. So it's about 7 days from start to finish.
Other than that they're apparently very reliable boxes, as long as you get them serviced.
WorldBoss said:
rider73 said:
so these 2 are looking nice - cl600's the 2nd one is pretty much my perfect spec.....
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202102239...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202011126...
however i'm not sure it will take my bikes, my new puppy, nor give me great mpg for 2x5 hour drive in my new job next month.....
but still..........
The puppy with love it - My Jack Russell was chauffered in the back of my 220 more than any human https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202102239...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202011126...
however i'm not sure it will take my bikes, my new puppy, nor give me great mpg for 2x5 hour drive in my new job next month.....
but still..........
.The 11k one is an extremely tempting prospect. I'm itching to see/look it over simply because "I can't believe it isn't 15k!".
Unfortunately god parent duties for occasionally school runs mean they're a no go, if only they had an occasional 3rd seat seat!
It will be amazing for that sort of run. I adore my s600 for the 3-4 hour run into London, especially after 10+ hours of being trapped in a 40bhp per tonne tracked van
rider73 said:
so after all the Man Maths on the 11K CL600 and finding a "towbar" for 700+fitting, i'm thinking about giving them a call and seeing if i can get any more details out of it - i've already noted sticklenack123's suggestion about the coils - i'm going to ask about where it was serviced, and various marks i can see in the pictures (the rear leather has a black mark / stripe) as well as the state of the drivers seat bolster as thier are no pics- and , obviously all equipment is working correctly!
Check the chassis plate that it can tow. Not all Mercs can (legally) unless they had the towing kit factory fitted, which often included uprated cooling for the transmission...RicksAlfas said:
rider73 said:
so after all the Man Maths on the 11K CL600 and finding a "towbar" for 700+fitting, i'm thinking about giving them a call and seeing if i can get any more details out of it - i've already noted sticklenack123's suggestion about the coils - i'm going to ask about where it was serviced, and various marks i can see in the pictures (the rear leather has a black mark / stripe) as well as the state of the drivers seat bolster as thier are no pics- and , obviously all equipment is working correctly!
Check the chassis plate that it can tow. Not all Mercs can (legally) unless they had the towing kit factory fitted, which often included uprated cooling for the transmission...Bonefish Blues said:
ferrisbueller said:
mondayo said:
ferrisbueller said:
Generally speaking, how reliable are the auto boxes in these old barges once you get 150k+ miles on them?
Are you talking Audi or in general?I've got a 5 speed auto in my s211 and I'm upto 146,000 miles.
I had an issue with it last year.... something to do with a solenoid on the lever side of the box. It's a known issue (apparently) and my gearbox The Man said he'd seen quite a few.
The box was still working but it didn't always know which gear it was in.
Anyway, it was a £400ish fix but it's a bit of a pain, as it needed to be sent off somewhere to be fixed. So it's about 7 days from start to finish.
Other than that they're apparently very reliable boxes, as long as you get them serviced.
Wheel_Turned_Out said:
Speaking of Toyotas, I'm finding this Crown estate rather pleasing indeed.
2.5 I6 so I imagine it'll be a splendidly smooth creature, albeit nowhere near Century level. Some of the badging might be a little optimistic, admittedly.
Wow. Webpage bookmarked! There are many cars on there I'd be interested in.2.5 I6 so I imagine it'll be a splendidly smooth creature, albeit nowhere near Century level. Some of the badging might be a little optimistic, admittedly.
Edited by Derventio on Thursday 11th March 10:45
Bit of 90's Audi anyone (ok, a smidge above budget) but what a thing!
https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id...
https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id...
Fantastic colours inside and out on this £12k S600, great spec (seems like every box ticked pretty much with rear entertainment, night vision, AMG body styling of highly dubious taste, fridge, pano roof, designo interior, radar cruise), sane pricing, and it looks like great history
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2006-56-Mercedes-Benz-S...
This might be one of the best ones I've seen come up for sale for colours/spec. Ride height looks a bit odd, but for that money you could have a £2k bork fund to hand.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2006-56-Mercedes-Benz-S...
This might be one of the best ones I've seen come up for sale for colours/spec. Ride height looks a bit odd, but for that money you could have a £2k bork fund to hand.
Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 12th March 21:36
Oh and the highest spec 500 I've ever seen, with ABC, rear fridge, proper leather, dynamic seats, loads of small but nice options like comfort headrests. ALl the spec of a 600 without less bork fear!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mercedes-S-class-500L-w...
ETA - I missed the engine "foult". Bugger.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mercedes-S-class-500L-w...
ETA - I missed the engine "foult". Bugger.
Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 12th March 21:38
stickleback123 said:
Fantastic colours inside and out on this £12k S600, great spec (seems like every box ticked pretty much with rear entertainment, night vision, AMG body styling of highly dubious taste, fridge, pano roof, designo interior, radar cruise), sane pricing, and it looks like great history
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2006-56-Mercedes-Benz-S...
This might be one of the best ones I've seen come up for sale for colours/spec. Ride height looks a bit odd, but for that money you could have a £2k bork fund to hand.
That looks good.https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2006-56-Mercedes-Benz-S...
This might be one of the best ones I've seen come up for sale for colours/spec. Ride height looks a bit odd, but for that money you could have a £2k bork fund to hand.
Edited by stickleback123 on Friday 12th March 21:36
Apparently it's only being sold as a trade sale though, even though he's a dealer?
The rust is a shame and the fact they wouldn't bother during it of it's only £150 to do so
this guys ad just keeps getting better and better each month its still up on AT
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202006039...
ALW owned in case you have not noticed these past xxx months its been up for sale - i'm sure originally it was 11K !
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202006039...
ALW owned in case you have not noticed these past xxx months its been up for sale - i'm sure originally it was 11K !
mondayo said:
That looks good.
Apparently it's only being sold as a trade sale though, even though he's a dealer?
The rust is a shame and the fact they wouldn't bother during it of it's only £150 to do so
Now available with dealer prep and backup for another grand, from a 5 star rated dealer (265 reviews). If anyone is remotely interested in buying an S600, particularly sight unseen, this is the one to get.Apparently it's only being sold as a trade sale though, even though he's a dealer?
The rust is a shame and the fact they wouldn't bother during it of it's only £150 to do so
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202103120...
Regarding the leggy blue "Andrew Lloyd Webber" car there are only two possible explanations for the bizzare pricing (car originally listed June 2020); as WorldBoss suggested to be the owner has been told "get rid of that s
theap moneypit" and is now "doing his best" to sell it, or the seller is a complete tool. It can't be anything else for him to see cars with 1/2 to 2/3rds the miles, and dealer backup selling for £11k - £12k and then decide the leggiest S600 on AutoTrader is worth £15k. He should absolutely bite off the hand of anyone offering him £8k for it and seriously consider a £7k offer.
Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 16th March 10:59
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