RE: Audi TT RS: Review
Discussion
No thanks, that's way too far the other way! I'll stick with what I've got tankplanker said:
For the current generation I take it you've driven both the 718 and the new TT RS on the track? As those are bold statements to make if you haven't actually driven both.
No, I have no interest whatsoever in driving on the track, and I don't need to be driving at track speeds to make judgements on cars for their balance, adjustability, steering feel, braking feel etc etc. On a good car these are things which provide me with driving pleasure at what for me are everyday speeds on everyday roads (it helps that I rarely have to drive within 50 miles of London and have three sparsely-populated National Parks within spitting distance)AMGJocky said:
Sorry, but when is a 781 Cayman S going to struggle to keep up with a Golf R?! Deary me.
I noticed that too but it's coming from someone who prefers 4wd (nothing wrong with that) and couldn't extract traction out of a RWD. Throttle modulation issues at play I think, which occasionally happens when you're used to a 4wd point and squirt where the throttle can be used as an on/off switch (in all weathers including snow, apparently).I don't care being called a PHDG as no one has explained to me what that was yet !
HannsG said:
I can't understand why so many say Audi's are dull?
I am BMW M man myself having owned a few. Are the RS versions really 'dull'? whats missing?
generally they push on at the limit (which is safe), which shows up on jurno tests on tracksI am BMW M man myself having owned a few. Are the RS versions really 'dull'? whats missing?
1) most owners never drive at 10/10ths on the road
2) if your driving at 7/10ths in a modern RS/AMG/M on the road you are looking at a 2 year ban because you will easily be going double the speed limit+
The problem with the TT is do you view it as a sports car in which case it should be engaging and precise to drive (which it wont be) or as a GT Coupe in which case it is probably fine
Also if you need to prove the size of your epeen to everyone else on the road you can chip it to 500bhp and use launch control everywhere, which it will also be fine for (until it breaks an audi void the warranty)
The usual.... Any threads about the TT RS or RS3 really seem to rub the pistonhead crowd the wrong way 
I loved my MK2 TT RS and thoroughly enjoyed my 8V RS3.
Keen to try this out once in the dealerships in the Uk, then I will pass judgement unlike some posters who start angrily frothing at the mouth about something they have not driven or have not intention of driving
I loved my MK2 TT RS and thoroughly enjoyed my 8V RS3.
Keen to try this out once in the dealerships in the Uk, then I will pass judgement unlike some posters who start angrily frothing at the mouth about something they have not driven or have not intention of driving
J4CKO said:
I was walking the dog and heard something that sounded more than a bit handy being thrapped, was a smidge disappointing to spot it was a white Boxster, a 15 plate, would that be the six or the turbo four, assume it must have been the six on a 15, didnt get chance to listen properly, but was making a lot of noise for a Boxster.
6 Boxster S probably with PSE. Not joking, the exhaust sound they make with PSE is up there with N/A supercars.billyali86 said:
The usual.... Any threads about the TT RS or RS3 really seem to rub the pistonhead crowd the wrong way
I loved my MK2 TT RS and thoroughly enjoyed my 8V RS3.
Keen to try this out once in the dealerships in the Uk, then I will pass judgement unlike some posters who start angrily frothing at the mouth about something they have not driven or have not intention of driving
I haven't seen any anger nor frothing. Well, up to your post anyway I loved my MK2 TT RS and thoroughly enjoyed my 8V RS3.
Keen to try this out once in the dealerships in the Uk, then I will pass judgement unlike some posters who start angrily frothing at the mouth about something they have not driven or have not intention of driving
Dave Hedgehog said:
generally they push on at the limit (which is safe), which shows up on jurno tests on tracks
1) most owners never drive at 10/10ths on the road
2) if your driving at 7/10ths in a modern RS/AMG/M on the road you are looking at a 2 year ban because you will easily be going double the speed limit+
The problem with the TT is do you view it as a sports car in which case it should be engaging and precise to drive (which it wont be) or as a GT Coupe in which case it is probably fine
Also if you need to prove the size of your epeen to everyone else on the road you can chip it to 500bhp and use launch control everywhere, which it will also be fine for (until it breaks an audi void the warranty)
Do you notice much difference in handling between the newer Haldex cars and your older TorSen ones Dave?1) most owners never drive at 10/10ths on the road
2) if your driving at 7/10ths in a modern RS/AMG/M on the road you are looking at a 2 year ban because you will easily be going double the speed limit+
The problem with the TT is do you view it as a sports car in which case it should be engaging and precise to drive (which it wont be) or as a GT Coupe in which case it is probably fine
Also if you need to prove the size of your epeen to everyone else on the road you can chip it to 500bhp and use launch control everywhere, which it will also be fine for (until it breaks an audi void the warranty)
My wife had a ride in a 4 year old TT a short while ago. She hated it, claimed it was tiny inside and claustrophobic, the black interior does it no favours. She is 5'4" and 50 kg. I looked in one and thought the same. She loves our Camaro, also a 400bhp GT car. A lot bigger, a bit slower (but still more than fast enough for the UK), but an occasion every time you drive it, with a sound to die for.
Lowtimer said:
No, I have no interest whatsoever in driving on the track, and I don't need to be driving at track speeds to make judgements on cars for their balance, adjustability, steering feel, braking feel etc etc. On a good car these are things which provide me with driving pleasure at what for me are everyday speeds on everyday roads (it helps that I rarely have to drive within 50 miles of London and have three sparsely-populated National Parks within spitting distance)
So you have at least driven the 718 and the (new) TT RS on these or any roads?Dave Hedgehog said:
HannsG said:
I can't understand why so many say Audi's are dull?
I am BMW M man myself having owned a few. Are the RS versions really 'dull'? whats missing?
generally they push on at the limit (which is safe), which shows up on jurno tests on tracksI am BMW M man myself having owned a few. Are the RS versions really 'dull'? whats missing?
1) most owners never drive at 10/10ths on the road
2) if your driving at 7/10ths in a modern RS/AMG/M on the road you are looking at a 2 year ban because you will easily be going double the speed limit+
The problem with the TT is do you view it as a sports car in which case it should be engaging and precise to drive (which it wont be) or as a GT Coupe in which case it is probably fine
Also if you need to prove the size of your epeen to everyone else on the road you can chip it to 500bhp and use launch control everywhere, which it will also be fine for (until it breaks an audi void the warranty)
even at 8/10 a car should feel alive, you shouldn't have to 'Harris' a car to feel its quality.
My problem with the TT is that is certainly no sports car (steering feel, handling feel, precision & progression, front heavy, brake feel), but it's also no GT in that it's quite noisy. Sure the RS has the grin inducing acceleration, but that's it. For me, in that segment i'd take the 370Z, S2000 or an M car as they offer something else to speed & grip. Some people don't hate Audi, they just don't like that market segment. personal choice, many choose Audi, it's just that i like driving.
HannsG said:
I can't understand why so many say Audi's are dull?
I am BMW M man myself having owned a few. Are the RS versions really 'dull'? whats missing?
It's very hard to say because handling, character and personality are either immeasurable or unquantifiable. I am BMW M man myself having owned a few. Are the RS versions really 'dull'? whats missing?
I don't think Audis are 'bad' cars, not by any stretch of the imagination but having driven a few S and RS cars, there just seems to be something missing, leaving me feeling a bit disconnected from it all. Obviously, I haven't driven every S and RS variant so it's more than possible that some are better than others but I'll never forget my first drive in an RS4; I knew it would go around the corner very quickly indeed but I couldn't feel it doing it.
Imagine if you lost all sensation in your penis. You know you've got it deep inside her because you're happily pounding away and she's pulling lots of amusing faces and making horrendous squawking sounds. You'll know when you've finished because there's post-tsunami levels of spunk and gash-juice to clear up. All in all it was a job well done but... you didn't feel it. That's been my experience of fast Audis.
I may have drifted off point a little there.
big_rob_sydney said:
Funny. Seem to be a lot of driving gods out there today.
Why aren't you all at Singapore lining up for the F1...
I imagine because there's a chasm of difference between 'being able to feel and enjoy things' and 'being in the top 0.00001% of the planet's motorsport elite'.Why aren't you all at Singapore lining up for the F1...
billyali86 said:
The usual.... Any threads about the TT RS or RS3 really seem to rub the pistonhead crowd the wrong way
Haha, very fair point, and I'll certainly admit that those cars do in some way "rub me up the wrong way", don't get me wrong, I don't REALLY care, I don't seethe with anger over them. The truth is I just find them a bit disappointing, and thus annoying. These are the cars from a major manufacturer that are most designed to appeal to me, of the whole Audi range, the RS cars are the ones that I'd hope would appeal to my enjoyment of driving, so the fact that they clearly are not designed for feedback, feel, balance etc disappoints me. It's a wasted opportunity.I would LOVE it if there was an awesome clash of the titans between Cayman S, TTRS, M2 etc etc, where all of them were great to drive with awesome feedback etc, sure all focussing on slightly different things, but all being great fun to drive no matter how hard you push them, but unfortunately that's not the case. If you value feedback, steering feel, balance etc, then the RS cars just don't cut the mustard. They only way they win in the driving enjoyment stakes, is if you love going in a straight line as quickly as possible, which just isn't my thing. In fact, it's the opposite of what I want. I want a car that I get the most enjoyment possible out of, at the lowest possible speed.
I'm don't ideologically hate Audis, I'd love them to produce cars that appeal to what I enjoy about driving. They just don't.
nickfrog said:
I haven't seen any anger nor frothing. Well, up to your post anyway
No frothing from me my friend 
I just find it all very funny
Despite whats been said in reviews its meant to be an improvement over the previous re iteration and the rs3 also. Take one for a drive when released, you may even like.
Maybe the frothing will be from how much you enjoy it
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