RE: Ford Mustang Ecoboost Revo Stage 1: Review
Discussion
Jumturbo said:
I'm guessing you are in the US! I can understand you guys having difficulty accepting a 4 cylinder Mustang more than us in the UK, but I can't understand how you can call the Ecoboost an average performer. Any car with over 300bhp on tap is far from average! I've never driven an Ecoboost but have watched and read virtually all the reviews and none describe it as you do. On the contrary, they all seem full of praise for the performance. The only gripe they seem to have is that it doesn't sound like a V8. This doesn't bother me, I have no hang ups about it at all. Fords own data has the Ecoboost just one second behind at 100Km/h so not that underwhelming hey? Also, I'd believe all the independent reviews available to watch and read in abundance on the net regarding the Ecoboosts performance over anyone on here for sure! Sorry, but your comments have no substance! I do have a V8 powered TR7 (Rover 3.5 V8 nee Buik) which I was using every day back in the early 90s and before I had to buy a house! 15mpg round town became it's downfall and ended up tucked away in my garage. However, it's currently my project car and will soon hit the road again as a tarmac rally replica! (Check out Tony Pond 1980 Manx Rally) It does sound mega though and for a small car with around 200bhp was pretty quick in it's day! After this I moved on to an MG Montego Turbo, which was also very quick in the day. I still have this too ( about 12 left on the road!) which also has about 200bhp. Ever since, all my cars have been turbos so the Mustang fits the bill! Happy Christmas anyhow!
PS what fuel were you running on that trip. I know in the US you have low octane stuff as standard, like 87. This will return poorer performance and fuel economy. Over here our minimum is 95, with the option of getting 97 and 99, which will certainly sharpen performance and economy.
The octane ratings are completely different in the US. 93 us is like 98, 87 is like 93.PS what fuel were you running on that trip. I know in the US you have low octane stuff as standard, like 87. This will return poorer performance and fuel economy. Over here our minimum is 95, with the option of getting 97 and 99, which will certainly sharpen performance and economy.
My mustang on the highway, 70mph, cruise off, ac off will get around 30-32 UK mpg with a 3:73 rear end.
Going flat out I'll get low 20s in UK mpg.
The ecoboost is nice, but it's nothing special. It's a modern 200sx. I found there was no theatre, no drama and no rawness.
J4CKO said:
I dont get the hate for it and the Mustangs must have a V8, why ?
Sometimes, things change, though in this case, the Mustang has always had other engine options.
The Sierra Cosworth was 4 cyl, Rwd, Turbocharged Ford and nobody goes on about how dreadful that was, the Focus RS comes with a pretty similar engine, nobody moans about that not having a V8 engine, maybe a little moaning because the last one had 5 cyls.
I would probably go for a V8 that said if I were spending all that money, however an Ecoboost with a few tweaks would still be a pretty desirable car, getting on for 400 bhp is pretty easy to achieve and for me that isnt quite the pile of excrement so many seem to think this is.
"Mustangs must always have V8's. Dad lets me drive slow on the driveway. But not on Monday, definitely not on Monday."
The Sierra cosworth was designed with homologation in mind. The mustang's incarnation was a mass produced affordable muscle cars. The slant 6 was aimed at secretarys. Drive the two and you will see.Sometimes, things change, though in this case, the Mustang has always had other engine options.
The Sierra Cosworth was 4 cyl, Rwd, Turbocharged Ford and nobody goes on about how dreadful that was, the Focus RS comes with a pretty similar engine, nobody moans about that not having a V8 engine, maybe a little moaning because the last one had 5 cyls.
I would probably go for a V8 that said if I were spending all that money, however an Ecoboost with a few tweaks would still be a pretty desirable car, getting on for 400 bhp is pretty easy to achieve and for me that isnt quite the pile of excrement so many seem to think this is.
"Mustangs must always have V8's. Dad lets me drive slow on the driveway. But not on Monday, definitely not on Monday."
SuperHangOn said:
A sodding great diesel might suit the Mustang better than the ecoboost. Don't Ford make the V8 twin-turbo diesel used in the Rangie? 
No. Maybe you guys have a single turbo diesel 6 cylinder.The big dog power stroke diesel is a single turbo. The petrol ecoboost 3.5 is a twin turbo, the one in the Taurus sho, Lincoln mks and now the 2.7 twin turbo in the fusion and f150.
swerni said:
I am however also in the camp that they should only be LHD and if people are too stupid to be able to drive them they should stick to their diesel Audi and BMW's
May not be a popular opinion, but like a
holes, we've all got one 
Swerni, why would you want a LHD car in the UK? If the new Mustang was only available in LHD I wouldn't have entertained it at all. I love certain American cars and the LHD issue was always the thing that put me off. Overtaking vans and HGVs for one thing must be a bit dangerous on UK roads. May not be a popular opinion, but like a
holes, we've all got one I don't drive an Audi or BMW (which I'd guess would be pretty rare if only available in LHD, so what a pity they decided to make these in RHD!), never had and never will. Can't stand em! Not that they are bad cars, I just don't like overrated cars that are everywhere you look! One reason I'm going for a Mustang is cos not many are buying and I happen to love em!
I can't think of any subjective reasons to buy the Ecoboost over the V8.
Having driven both it feels like you only buy the Ecoboost for economic reasons.
It's not a bad car, far from it but it just doesn't have the soul of the V8 - surely the whole point of buying a cheaply made American coupe is for the emotion of it...
Having driven both it feels like you only buy the Ecoboost for economic reasons.
It's not a bad car, far from it but it just doesn't have the soul of the V8 - surely the whole point of buying a cheaply made American coupe is for the emotion of it...
Jumturbo said:
5ohmustang said:
The octane ratings are completely different in the US. 93 us is like 98, 87 is like 93.
Interesting, thanks for this. Mind you, are you sure 93 is equal to UK 97/98? What is the normal UK 95 equal to?Very roughly, what we'd call "normal" unleaded would be 90 in the US; what we call "Super" would be 92-94 over there.
Ahbefive said:
Pommygranite said:
- surely the whole point of buying a cheaply made American coupe is for the emotion of it...
Or so you can stand out from the sheep in the cheaply made German coupes and have something just a little bit different. Its a car, not a 100% emotional purchase.
If you're making an emotional decision to buy a Mustang why get the lesser choice?
MarshPhantom said:
I really don't understand all the V8 only rubbish, they've been many variants of 4 cylinder/6 cylinder versions previously.
It really only seems to be a big deal outside of the US...my presumption is that the US Mustang customers have lived in the 50year history of the Mustang that had 4, 6 and 8 cylinders, supercharged and turbocharged engines, etc, however, UK/Euro customers like me have only seen a small part e.g. American pony car royality with the big V8s, Bullitt and Eleanor.swerni said:
I'll try not to be patronising,
Have you ever been to America or are you basing your statements on any fact?
I go to the US 5 or 6 times a year, most people don't drive round in big V8's, they drive Nissans, Hondas and Korean imports.
As to the figures, roughly 800 ecoboosts were imported to the UK this year and about 500 the year before. if I were a betting man, i'd say Hertz alone order more than the whole of the UK.
As to your last comment, jesus fking christ, fraction of the price of what?
Mustangs have been available in the UK for ages, I purchased my old one 10 years ago.
A US imported car attracts VED at £235, regardless of engine size ( My Vette is a 7.0), they are usually cheaper to buy, but with the recent changes in currency that may no longer be the case. Will be interesting to see what Ford do with the price.
Please by all means have an opinion, but don't make wild statements which are just utter bks
I think it's safe to say that you failed at that then.Have you ever been to America or are you basing your statements on any fact?
I go to the US 5 or 6 times a year, most people don't drive round in big V8's, they drive Nissans, Hondas and Korean imports.
As to the figures, roughly 800 ecoboosts were imported to the UK this year and about 500 the year before. if I were a betting man, i'd say Hertz alone order more than the whole of the UK.
As to your last comment, jesus f
king christ, fraction of the price of what?Mustangs have been available in the UK for ages, I purchased my old one 10 years ago.
A US imported car attracts VED at £235, regardless of engine size ( My Vette is a 7.0), they are usually cheaper to buy, but with the recent changes in currency that may no longer be the case. Will be interesting to see what Ford do with the price.
Please by all means have an opinion, but don't make wild statements which are just utter b
ksI have actually, yes, a few times. My dad used to do business over there for a company he used to work for, which meant up to a handful of visits or so per year. We all would tag along usually.
Who said most people? I certainly didn't. I simply said that bigger engines and V8's are probably more common over there as apposed to here in the UK. That's all.
Hertz also operate here in the UK, do hey not? So i'm not quite sure what you're actually getting at there.
My comment on pricing was simply to state that you can get a RHD new UK model for around £35k with the 5.0 V8 i believe. So why bother with one with the wheel on the wrong side? This is the UK you know?
You, my angry friend, are in the minority of what people expect from Ford with the Mustang. I'm sure they're glad that they didn't listen to you either as they would have sold only a fraction of what they have done so far and in the future.
swerni said:
No need to be formal 
Not being Buddhist, I don't believe in reincarnation, although I was in Burma and Thailand in November and it is a wonderful religion.
If I were to come back again, I think I'd be a cat, those lazy fkers have is sussed.
ps I also have a British, Japanese and German car, maybe I'm just confused
I think you're wrong. You'd definitely come back as a LHD Mustang built here in the UK. Practice what you preach and all that Not being Buddhist, I don't believe in reincarnation, although I was in Burma and Thailand in November and it is a wonderful religion.
If I were to come back again, I think I'd be a cat, those lazy f
kers have is sussed.ps I also have a British, Japanese and German car, maybe I'm just confused
P.S. I'm glad to see you've calmed down now and suddenly found inner peace during your last response. Dare i say, very Buddhist of you?
Edited by culpz on Friday 30th December 11:37
swerni said:
culpz said:
swerni said:
No need to be formal
Not being Buddhist, I don't believe in reincarnation, although I was in Burma and Thailand in November and it is a wonderful religion.
If I were to come back again, I think I'd be a cat, those lazy fkers have is sussed.
ps I also have a British, Japanese and German car, maybe I'm just confused
I think you're wrong. You'd definitely come back as a LHD Mustang built here in the UK. Practice what you preach and all that Not being Buddhist, I don't believe in reincarnation, although I was in Burma and Thailand in November and it is a wonderful religion.
If I were to come back again, I think I'd be a cat, those lazy f
kers have is sussed.ps I also have a British, Japanese and German car, maybe I'm just confused
I've just been looking at the S197 (2005 onwards) productions numbers.
Remember this was only ever available in left hand drive.
in 2005 they sold 160,412
of those
60,792 were GT's ( V8)
99,620 were V6's
I've not looked at any other years, but i'd bet the ratios were roughly the same.
I think sales stats are really misleading to indicate what people actually want as they're ultimately stats by financial controllers.
swerni said:
All flirting aside, you got me thinking
I've just been looking at the S197 (2005 onwards) productions numbers.
Remember this was only ever available in left hand drive.
in 2005 they sold 160,412
of those
60,792 were GT's ( V8)
99,620 were V6's
I've not looked at any other years, but i'd bet the ratios were roughly the same.
Not sure more what's more concerning; the fact that you think this is flirting or, if that is the case, how you think that would work to pick up men/women in any scenario.I've just been looking at the S197 (2005 onwards) productions numbers.
Remember this was only ever available in left hand drive.
in 2005 they sold 160,412
of those
60,792 were GT's ( V8)
99,620 were V6's
I've not looked at any other years, but i'd bet the ratios were roughly the same.
Number aside, your last response to me prior to this one was you challenging what i said was different to what i initially wrote. Fair point. But my first point was that i said that there is no real incentive in america for the smaller engine due to cheaper petrol prices over there and so bigger engines being the norm.
You then went off on one saying that's bulls
t. But is it really? How is that not a fact? All i was getting at was that there are probably more bigger engines on the roads as apposed to here in the UK or even in Europe in general. I said that specifically as well.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff