RE: Ford Mustang Ecoboost Revo Stage 1: Review
Discussion
I've driven both the Ecoboost and the V8.
I drove the Ecoboost first, because they didn't have the V8 in to drive, got back to the dealer and ordered the V8.
Then the V8 came in to test drive and so I did.
The Ecoboost was ok, but of shove but the V8 was, well, more. More soul, more shove and sounded better. It was a more enjoyable experience.
I drove the Ecoboost first, because they didn't have the V8 in to drive, got back to the dealer and ordered the V8.
Then the V8 came in to test drive and so I did.
The Ecoboost was ok, but of shove but the V8 was, well, more. More soul, more shove and sounded better. It was a more enjoyable experience.
I dont get the hate for it and the Mustangs must have a V8, why ?
Sometimes, things change, though in this case, the Mustang has always had other engine options.
The Sierra Cosworth was 4 cyl, Rwd, Turbocharged Ford and nobody goes on about how dreadful that was, the Focus RS comes with a pretty similar engine, nobody moans about that not having a V8 engine, maybe a little moaning because the last one had 5 cyls.
I would probably go for a V8 that said if I were spending all that money, however an Ecoboost with a few tweaks would still be a pretty desirable car, getting on for 400 bhp is pretty easy to achieve and for me that isnt quite the pile of excrement so many seem to think this is.
"Mustangs must always have V8's. Dad lets me drive slow on the driveway. But not on Monday, definitely not on Monday."
Sometimes, things change, though in this case, the Mustang has always had other engine options.
The Sierra Cosworth was 4 cyl, Rwd, Turbocharged Ford and nobody goes on about how dreadful that was, the Focus RS comes with a pretty similar engine, nobody moans about that not having a V8 engine, maybe a little moaning because the last one had 5 cyls.
I would probably go for a V8 that said if I were spending all that money, however an Ecoboost with a few tweaks would still be a pretty desirable car, getting on for 400 bhp is pretty easy to achieve and for me that isnt quite the pile of excrement so many seem to think this is.
"Mustangs must always have V8's. Dad lets me drive slow on the driveway. But not on Monday, definitely not on Monday."
Jumturbo said:
Some pathetic comments here about the car not having a V8. As we know, you don't need a V8 to produce epic performance anymore. People get so hung up about it! Also, the difference in fuel economy is not small. Thrash the V8 and you'll be lucky to see 10mpg. Thrash the Ecoboost and you'll still see 20. Round towm you can drive the turbo car sedately and get mid to late 20s. The Ecoboost is the Mustang for the future for sure. We love our Turbos in the UK too, so it fit's in well but stands out as well! I'll consider this upgrade for sure! Also, year old Ecoboosts are still selling for the price of new too, so more bull crap is being spouted in this regard as well!
Only pathetic comment I can see is yours lambasting people for having an opinion.The V8 is one of the defining features of the car for many. It gives the car character. If you've ever driven an Aston DBS vantage then a proper one you'll know that they are completely different cars despite being near identical bar an engine.
DeanHelix said:
I was chatting with a friend a few years ago when this new Mustang was announced. We decided Ford should have two names for this car depending on engine variant. Both 2+2 RWD coupes on a shared platform, but the 2.3 Ecoboost would be branded the Capri and the V8 would be the Mustang. Each with it's own styling cues to heritage and slight bodywork tweaks a la Toyota GT86 vs Subaru BRZ.
That way, we get a successor to the Capri with all it's Brooklands 280, Tickford Turbo & X-pack connotations and the Mustang retains all it's Bullitt, Shelby & V8 powerplant connotations and is not sullied by another 4-pot variant. Branding is very important, Ford missed a trick here.
This was done in the US with the Mercury Capri of 1979–86 which was a slightly re-styled Ford Mustang. Not a great success.That way, we get a successor to the Capri with all it's Brooklands 280, Tickford Turbo & X-pack connotations and the Mustang retains all it's Bullitt, Shelby & V8 powerplant connotations and is not sullied by another 4-pot variant. Branding is very important, Ford missed a trick here.
My view is they should have left the iconic Mustang name in the US and rebodied/modified the styling cues for itto turn it into a Capri for the European market.
I was talking to a lad, the other day, who loves Mustangs but has never owned one and he thought the RHD Mustang had already ruined the whole magic of the Mustang as they are now too common.Dilutes the novelty, substantially.
An Ecoboost Capri (Cosworth?) makes more sense and a V8 Capri would recall the glory days of the 2600RS and could have worn an RS badge far more relevant to the European range.
How ridiculous. Don't call a Mustang a Mustang in the UK.Some Gump said:
Only pathetic comment I can see is yours lambasting people for having an opinion.
The V8 is one of the defining features of the car for many. It gives the car character. If you've ever driven an Aston DBS vantage then a proper one you'll know that they are completely different cars despite being near identical bar an engine.
Oh, so it's ok to lambast the subject of the original post? The thread was started for people who may be interested like me. It's perfectly ok to express personal opinions that you'd still prefer a V8 , but I find it pathetic to read comments like 'tragic', 'like a fat b*****d going to the gym', 'still sounds sh*t'. You obviously find this acceptable? I don't! Revo Technic have spent a lot of time and expense developing this particular stage of tune for the enthusiasts out there. £500 for an extra 50 bhp 'sounds' great to me! As does a 360bhp Mustang whether it's got 4, 6 or 8 cylinders. You don't have to like it and you can say so, but there's no need to disrespect the car and hence the owners, for what they have achieved. The V8 is one of the defining features of the car for many. It gives the car character. If you've ever driven an Aston DBS vantage then a proper one you'll know that they are completely different cars despite being near identical bar an engine.
swerni said:
Have you even driven the ecoboost? It's underwhelming to say the least.
swerni said:
I was on business so instead of flying from LA to Phoenix I though it would me more fun to drive a convertible.
If i'm driving a V8 I don't need to search for performance options or have to worry too much what gear I'm in.
Hey Swerni, I found that youtube review I mentioned with the guy who rented an Ecoboost and thought it was slow until he discovered sport mode! The video is a bit boring tbh but check it at around 7 mins to see his reaction at discovering sport mode! This is a guy that drives a 2012 V8 Mustang. As with many, he also states he would still prefer the V8 ('because Mustangs should have V8s'), but he was impressed enough with the Ecoboost performance. He has another video too where he more or less praises the car all round. I guess peoples opinion on performance is based on what they are used to, but this guy is used to a V8 Mustang, albeit 2012. His other link is below as well.If i'm driving a V8 I don't need to search for performance options or have to worry too much what gear I'm in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olal5dgU0w0&t=...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPB8828VUTQ
Edited by Jumturbo on Wednesday 28th December 22:03
Edited by Jumturbo on Wednesday 28th December 22:04
I've always been quite intrigued by this engine in this new European Mustang. Obviously, the general consensus is if you want a Mustang then at least get it with the proper V8 engine for not much extra cash.
However, with this new Mustang now being RHD and available in the UK, why is it deemed completely unacceptable to offer a European engine as a choice too? The word "Option" being key there as having choice is rarely a bad thing.
I'm not disbelieving people who have driven the basic engine and have been underwhelmed. I'm just saying that, with this being the first offering available outside the US, i can see why a smaller engine was rolled-out in an attempt to widen and broaden the Mustang's appeal.
Whether it has worked or not or if it was actually worth it is another argument. The very few i've seen on the roads have all been the 5.0 V8 flavour.
However, with this new Mustang now being RHD and available in the UK, why is it deemed completely unacceptable to offer a European engine as a choice too? The word "Option" being key there as having choice is rarely a bad thing.
I'm not disbelieving people who have driven the basic engine and have been underwhelmed. I'm just saying that, with this being the first offering available outside the US, i can see why a smaller engine was rolled-out in an attempt to widen and broaden the Mustang's appeal.
Whether it has worked or not or if it was actually worth it is another argument. The very few i've seen on the roads have all been the 5.0 V8 flavour.
Truckosaurus said:
Anyone know the ratio of V8 to Ecoboost sales split in the UK? (on Autotrader there are 95 V8s and 35 Ecoboosts (2015 or newer))
Talking to the dealer when I ordered my GT, they sell 3 GTs for every Ecoboost. In America, where Mustangs are a lot more common, the ratio is completely different with the ecoboost and V6 being the more popular choice.culpz said:
I've always been quite intrigued by this engine in this new European Mustang. Obviously, the general consensus is if you want a Mustang then at least get it with the proper V8 engine for not much extra cash.
However, with this new Mustang now being RHD and available in the UK, why is it deemed completely unacceptable to offer a European engine as a choice too? The word "Option" being key there as having choice is rarely a bad thing.
I'm not disbelieving people who have driven the basic engine and have been underwhelmed. I'm just saying that, with this being the first offering available outside the US, i can see why a smaller engine was rolled-out in an attempt to widen and broaden the Mustang's appeal.
Whether it has worked or not or if it was actually worth it is another argument. The very few i've seen on the roads have all been the 5.0 V8 flavour.
I agree, it's good to have the Ecoboost as an option, especially in the UK and other European countries. I think Ford developed this particular Mustang to make the car more attractive in the European market. Looks like some Americans must like it more than us too according to sales. Die hards hate it, as I presume they have hate for other non V8 Mustangs, which have always been available since 1964. I wonder what they think of the 1964 6 cylinder which had a massive 120bhp or something?However, with this new Mustang now being RHD and available in the UK, why is it deemed completely unacceptable to offer a European engine as a choice too? The word "Option" being key there as having choice is rarely a bad thing.
I'm not disbelieving people who have driven the basic engine and have been underwhelmed. I'm just saying that, with this being the first offering available outside the US, i can see why a smaller engine was rolled-out in an attempt to widen and broaden the Mustang's appeal.
Whether it has worked or not or if it was actually worth it is another argument. The very few i've seen on the roads have all been the 5.0 V8 flavour.
The power of the Ecoboost is on a par with the 2010 GT so certainly no slouch! It is also very tuneable, with big gains for little expense, as this thread demonstrates.
I take nothing away from the GT though, this car is an icon and if it wasn't for daily town driving I'd take one for sure, but for now I want an Ecoboost!
Edited by Jumturbo on Thursday 29th December 12:47
I test drove both the ecoboost and v8 mustang side by side and then drove an RS.
The v8 sounded decent enough for stock, though i wasn't a fan of the power delivery
The ecoboost i preferred, it just seemed to drive more the way i prefer (forced induction)
The RS was a riot and nearly caught me out when exiting a left hand corner onto a dual carriageway where i had right of way.
I think its great that we all want something different from our car choices, so in my opinion the v8 mustang would be at the bottom of my list of the 3 cars I drove based on my preference and also my requirements (I could cope with v8 mpg while doing 20k a year, but wouldn't want to). The ecoboost i think with a remap, maybe stage 2, would be fun. and the RS is just crazy, though the interior of the RS just lets it down for me.
The v8 sounded decent enough for stock, though i wasn't a fan of the power delivery
The ecoboost i preferred, it just seemed to drive more the way i prefer (forced induction)
The RS was a riot and nearly caught me out when exiting a left hand corner onto a dual carriageway where i had right of way.
I think its great that we all want something different from our car choices, so in my opinion the v8 mustang would be at the bottom of my list of the 3 cars I drove based on my preference and also my requirements (I could cope with v8 mpg while doing 20k a year, but wouldn't want to). The ecoboost i think with a remap, maybe stage 2, would be fun. and the RS is just crazy, though the interior of the RS just lets it down for me.
Jumturbo said:
I agree, it's good to have the Ecoboost as an option, especially in the UK and other European countries. I think Ford developed this particular Mustang to make the car more attractive in the European market. Looks like some Americans must like it more than us too according to sales. Die hards hate it, as I presume they have hate for other non V8 Mustangs, which have always been available since 1964. I wonder what they think of the 1964 6 cylinder which had a massive 120bhp or something?
The power of the Ecoboost is on a par with the 2010 GT so certainly no slouch! It is also very tuneable, with big gains for little expense, as this thread demonstrates.
I take nothing away from the GT though, this car is an icon and if it wasn't for daily town driving I'd take one for sure, but for now I want an Ecoboost!
Exactly. Although, if i'm honest, i'm not sure that it's really taken off. It's not what i'd call a common car on the roads by any means but i reckon there are more V8's out then than the lesser engine model. That's probably mainly from already enthusiastic Mustang aficionados that want the pure and original experience. The power of the Ecoboost is on a par with the 2010 GT so certainly no slouch! It is also very tuneable, with big gains for little expense, as this thread demonstrates.
I take nothing away from the GT though, this car is an icon and if it wasn't for daily town driving I'd take one for sure, but for now I want an Ecoboost!
Edited by Jumturbo on Thursday 29th December 12:47
I'm not even sure that Ford themselves really expected it to sell in large quantities from the off. Maybe it's just something to draw in a new marque of customers, so selling any number of them is just a bonus.
I've not driven either, so i can't comment or make an opinion on the driving experience. The price gap between the 2.3 and the V8 really isn't much though and i'd go as far as to say that it's one of the best bargains out there for a new car that we've seen for some time.
swerni said:
It's not a European engine, it's widely available in the US.
Do really think European figures would even make an impact of overall numbers sold?
It's more likely to look like a rounding error.
I am however also in the camp that they should only be LHD and if people are too stupid to be able to drive them they should stick to their diesel Audi and BMW's
May not be a popular opinion, but like a
holes, we've all got one 
LHD only would have definitely had me not puttin my money down. It's going to be my daily driver which involves parking in a work car park with a fob entry system, it's the reason I went for the Mustang over the Camaro.Do really think European figures would even make an impact of overall numbers sold?
It's more likely to look like a rounding error.
I am however also in the camp that they should only be LHD and if people are too stupid to be able to drive them they should stick to their diesel Audi and BMW's
May not be a popular opinion, but like a
holes, we've all got one swerni said:
It's not a European engine, it's widely available in the US.
Do really think European figures would even make an impact of overall numbers sold?
It's more likely to look like a rounding error.
I am however also in the camp that they should only be LHD and if people are too stupid to be able to drive them they should stick to their diesel Audi and BMW's
May not be a popular opinion, but like aholes, we've all got one
Fair enough, i didn't know that. But, in the US, there's no real incentive to go with the smaller engine. Bigger engines, especially V8s, are the norm there with their cheaper petrol prices and what-not. More people here in the UK and Europe could probably tempted with the lesser model more than anyone else.Do really think European figures would even make an impact of overall numbers sold?
It's more likely to look like a rounding error.
I am however also in the camp that they should only be LHD and if people are too stupid to be able to drive them they should stick to their diesel Audi and BMW's
May not be a popular opinion, but like a
holes, we've all got one When i was referring to figures, i meant ones with the 2.3 engine as apposed to all Mustang sales. That then goes hand-in-hand with the above.
Why would you want it LHD? That just makes you sound like a really sour individual that is angry that any Tom, Dick and Harry can now have one in the UK for a fraction of the price, while not having to import one and put up with the steering wheel on the wrong side.
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