RE: Honda Civic Type R prototype - Paris 2016

RE: Honda Civic Type R prototype - Paris 2016

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Digital

420 posts

233 months

Saturday 1st October 2016
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Killer2005 said:
As one of the few who actually likes the current CTR, that is gopping.
As an FK2 owner, I sadly have to agree, this new model holds very little appeal for me for a variety of reasons. The front end of the new car just doesn't work for me, looks like they've just grafted the front end of a CRV onto it. The size of the car is getting a bit silly as well, the FK2 was a reasonable stretch longer than the FN2, and this is a big jump again. The FK2 is already as big a car as I want to own.

I recall reading an interview with Matt Neal (Honda BTCC driver) where he hinted that the new car would have 4WD, which would give them the option with the race car to run it in a RWD configuration (as previously happened with the Audi A4 I believe).

Thunder18

160 posts

120 months

Wednesday 5th October 2016
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So that'll be a no to awd unless Honda's got some trickery going on with the centre pipe....

Ryang94

43 posts

112 months

Wednesday 5th October 2016
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Digital said:
As an FK2 owner, I sadly have to agree, this new model holds very little appeal for me for a variety of reasons. The front end of the new car just doesn't work for me, looks like they've just grafted the front end of a CRV onto it. The size of the car is getting a bit silly as well, the FK2 was a reasonable stretch longer than the FN2, and this is a big jump again. The FK2 is already as big a car as I want to own.

I recall reading an interview with Matt Neal (Honda BTCC driver) where he hinted that the new car would have 4WD, which would give them the option with the race car to run it in a RWD configuration (as previously happened with the Audi A4 I believe).
I'm 99% sure that this is not how the BTCC rules run regarding 4wd. I learnt this from Thorney Motorsport for the short time they ran a Insignia VXR, I asked which they would be going for FWD or RWD as the VXR is 4WD they said they are constrained to only what is available in the car category, so because every other insignia trim level is FWD they had to go FWD, so if it is 4wd they will still have to go FWD as every other civic is FWD.

Happy to be proven wrong.


Edit to add this from the BTCC website

Drivetrain:
•Xtrac 6 speed sequential-shift gearbox and differential
•AP Racing carbon clutch
•Drive-train layout (i.e. front or rear wheel drive) as per base vehicle
•4WD base car keep engine orientation as production which defines driven wheels


Edited by Ryang94 on Wednesday 5th October 09:48

Bodged

116 posts

111 months

Wednesday 5th October 2016
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Thunder18 said:


So that'll be a no to awd unless Honda's got some trickery going on with the centre pipe....
why is there a kink in the exhaust pipe then? right where you would want the rear diff to sit...

5ohmustang

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2,755 posts

116 months

Thursday 6th October 2016
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Latest report is that it will be sold in Spring 2017, USA will get it first. Looks to be fwd sadly. It will have a comfort mode as well as R mode.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 6th October 2016
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5ohmustang said:
Latest report is that it will be sold in Spring 2017, USA will get it first. Looks to be fwd sadly. It will have a comfort mode as well as R mode.
Again, FWD is far better for this........
Seriously? 4wd Type R ruins the experience.

5ohmustang

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2,755 posts

116 months

Thursday 6th October 2016
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sleepera6 said:
Again, FWD is far better for this........
Seriously? 4wd Type R ruins the experience.
I need awd for snow. The U.S. has a very limited choice when it comes to fast awd cars. I'd rather it be rwd than fwd.

M1C

1,835 posts

112 months

Thursday 6th October 2016
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I like it.

It looks ridiculous...but somehow a trifle more cohesive than the current one.

Let's give it a chance.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 6th October 2016
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5ohmustang said:
sleepera6 said:
Again, FWD is far better for this........
Seriously? 4wd Type R ruins the experience.
I need awd for snow. The U.S. has a very limited choice when it comes to fast awd cars. I'd rather it be rwd than fwd.
You have the RS, the A45 AMG, WRX STI, used Lancer Evolution..........
And then..
Cayenne Turbo S, SVR Range Rover, GLE 63,


Snow happens in Europe too, if AWD is your thing buy one of those but even then I drive AWD and RWD, I would NEVER make a Type R AWD.

Come on already, it's already bloody turbo, not NA anymore..
Come on already, It doesn't rev to over 9000 anymore..
Come on already, It doesn't go BwaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!! as much anymore
And now you want it to be AWD! Oh hell naw!

Next the Americans will want a slushbox..

5ohmustang

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2,755 posts

116 months

Friday 7th October 2016
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5ohmustang said:
We do not get the a45 AMG, the only Stu's are blobeye and newer which are very overpriced used. A blobeye sti is $15k or above.

Evos, only 8 and above, again seriously overpriced.

The importation laws prohibit cars under 25 years old. If you want fast awd, you will pay a lot.

psychocivic82

7 posts

92 months

Thursday 13th October 2016
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Deffo looks like a scooby ...

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

180 months

Thursday 13th October 2016
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I like this a lot. Can't wait to see them.


It's only about five minutes since the current one came out!