RE: Lotus Evora Sport 410: Review
Discussion
When I bought my N/A Evora I test drove lots in the same price range and nothing came close (except for the interior which lets the early cars down).
2 years later I test drove the Evora 400 in the same weekend as a Ftype V6s, GTR and 991 4s and again I preferred the Evora.
I'll likely replace my N/A Evora with a 400 or 410 next year. Before you proclaim they are overpriced test one against anything else you can get new for around £80k.
...That being said I'm glad people hate on them as it keeps them a rare sight and stops the prices going out of my range so forget what I said above they are terrible cars don't buy one!!
2 years later I test drove the Evora 400 in the same weekend as a Ftype V6s, GTR and 991 4s and again I preferred the Evora.
I'll likely replace my N/A Evora with a 400 or 410 next year. Before you proclaim they are overpriced test one against anything else you can get new for around £80k.
...That being said I'm glad people hate on them as it keeps them a rare sight and stops the prices going out of my range so forget what I said above they are terrible cars don't buy one!!
Sounds like an excellent car to me, just wish I could afford one!
I loved driving my S2 Elise, unfortunately owning it was not quite so much fun, but I think 5 (some less than careful) previous owners and a 'head gasket issue' were to blame for that.
The comments section on here is eye-opening though! First of all, why would anyone with little interest in cars contemplate spending £80k + on a sports car (Porsche or anything else)? Surely they would have at least heard of an Evora?
The lack of Lotus dealers is an issue, as my nearest is a good 70+ miles away - this does make servicing and repairs/warranty work a problem and I am sure it puts many off buying a Lotus (my nearest Morgan dealer is about 30 miles away!)
Some people seem to really have it in for Lotus, which is a real shame because they are supplying 'pure' driving machines that make more sense to me than out and out performance vehicles in these days of busy roads and draconian speed limit enforcement. To me, now that Lotus seem to be getting on top of quality, they offer very appealing cars with 'sensible' power outputs and good real-weights and resultant dynamics. They are also British designed and made, using many British parts, including a British built engine in the 1.6 Elise. This is obviously good for employment etc.
Lastly, I am not surprised that the 'Yanks' get the Evora at all because they have a very big car scene which puts our 'enthusiasm' for cars to shame. They still have a market for manual sports cars (and sports saloons) and programs such those that are available on Motor Trend or similar YouTube channels reveal that they really do know how to build and improve a range of cars from old muscle to present day machines. Also, don't forget that unlike us in Europe, they did not throw their lot in with diesel either, instead they have produced cars like the Tesla. I am glad however that I don't have to choose between Trump or Hilary next week, what a choice...
I loved driving my S2 Elise, unfortunately owning it was not quite so much fun, but I think 5 (some less than careful) previous owners and a 'head gasket issue' were to blame for that.
The comments section on here is eye-opening though! First of all, why would anyone with little interest in cars contemplate spending £80k + on a sports car (Porsche or anything else)? Surely they would have at least heard of an Evora?
The lack of Lotus dealers is an issue, as my nearest is a good 70+ miles away - this does make servicing and repairs/warranty work a problem and I am sure it puts many off buying a Lotus (my nearest Morgan dealer is about 30 miles away!)
Some people seem to really have it in for Lotus, which is a real shame because they are supplying 'pure' driving machines that make more sense to me than out and out performance vehicles in these days of busy roads and draconian speed limit enforcement. To me, now that Lotus seem to be getting on top of quality, they offer very appealing cars with 'sensible' power outputs and good real-weights and resultant dynamics. They are also British designed and made, using many British parts, including a British built engine in the 1.6 Elise. This is obviously good for employment etc.
Lastly, I am not surprised that the 'Yanks' get the Evora at all because they have a very big car scene which puts our 'enthusiasm' for cars to shame. They still have a market for manual sports cars (and sports saloons) and programs such those that are available on Motor Trend or similar YouTube channels reveal that they really do know how to build and improve a range of cars from old muscle to present day machines. Also, don't forget that unlike us in Europe, they did not throw their lot in with diesel either, instead they have produced cars like the Tesla. I am glad however that I don't have to choose between Trump or Hilary next week, what a choice...
Good point, I imagine that Trump will use a helicopter or a limo. I assume Hillary would like everyone to think that she drives a Tesla or cycles, but in reality she uses a helicopter or a limo. Trump might own/have owned a Porsche or two, but I guess that neither own a Lotus? One of them will end up with Air Force One (unless I am out of date and it has been pensioned off due to the cost of running it).
JM5 said:
When I bought my N/A Evora I test drove lots in the same price range and nothing came close (except for the interior which lets the early cars down).
2 years later I test drove the Evora 400 in the same weekend as a Ftype V6s, GTR and 991 4s and again I preferred the Evora.
I'll likely replace my N/A Evora with a 400 or 410 next year. Before you proclaim they are overpriced test one against anything else you can get new for around £80k.
...That being said I'm glad people hate on them as it keeps them a rare sight and stops the prices going out of my range so forget what I said above they are terrible cars don't buy one!!
I'm with you. Rarely see many other Lotuses around, feels really special to have one. A hand made sports car, fabricated by someone called Dave or Steve. Fast and looks good. Both of mine have been completely reliable over 55k miles. To top it all, it is a brand that mostly promotes lots of positive feedback.2 years later I test drove the Evora 400 in the same weekend as a Ftype V6s, GTR and 991 4s and again I preferred the Evora.
I'll likely replace my N/A Evora with a 400 or 410 next year. Before you proclaim they are overpriced test one against anything else you can get new for around £80k.
...That being said I'm glad people hate on them as it keeps them a rare sight and stops the prices going out of my range so forget what I said above they are terrible cars don't buy one!!
Good on you Lotus, keep it up.
Tin Hat said:
I'm with you. Rarely see many other Lotuses around, feels really special to have one. A hand made sports car, fabricated by someone called Dave or Steve. Fast and looks good. Both of mine have been completely reliable over 55k miles. To top it all, it is a brand that mostly promotes lots of positive feedback.
Good on you Lotus, keep it up.
Good on you Lotus, keep it up.
Meanwhile Porsche are about to release this lard ass.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Any updates on the quieter exhaust?
Looks like you can haggle your way down on a 1,000-2,000 miles Evora 400 for unde £70k. I wonder if the Sport 410 could be had for under £80k after a bit of negotiation?
I also wonder if it makes sense for some people to go for the Evora 400 and add the carbon bits onto it so you keep the sound deadening and slightly softer spring rates for those that aren't going to track the car.
There seem to be three finance offers in the market for the Evora 400 for those interested:
EVORA 400 - 50/50 24 MONTH FINANCE
Terms of Agreement (Months) - 24 Months
Annual Mileage - 10,000
23 Monthly Payments of - £0.00
On The Road Price* - £72,950.00
Customer Deposit - £36,475.00
Total Amount of Credit - £36,475.00
Acceptance Fee - £0.00
Option to Purchase Fee - £0.00
Final Payment - £36,475.00
Total Amount Payable by Customer - £72,950.00
Representative APR - 0.00%
Fixed Rate of Interest per Annum - 0.00%
EVORA 400 - 49 MONTH FINANCE
Terms of Agreement (Months) - 49 Months
Annual Mileage - 10,000
48 Monthly Payments of - £789.00
On The Road Price* - £72,950.00
Customer Deposit - £23,154.00
Total Amount of Credit - £49,796.00
Acceptance Fee - £0.00
Option to Purchase Fee - £10.00
Final Payment - £23,523.00
Total Amount Payable by Customer - £84,549.00
Representative APR - 7.90%
Fixed Rate of Interest per Annum - 7.62%
EVORA 400 - 49 MONTH FINANCE
Terms of Agreement (Months) - 49 Months
Annual Mileage - 10,000
48 Monthly Payments of - £699.00
On The Road Price* - £72,950.00
Customer Deposit - £21,693.50
Total Amount of Credit - £51,256.50
Acceptance Fee - £0.00
Option to Purchase Fee - £10.00
Final Payment - £23,610.00
Total Amount Payable by Customer - £78,855.50
Representative APR - 3.9%
Fixed Rate of Interest per Annum - 3.83%
Looks like you can haggle your way down on a 1,000-2,000 miles Evora 400 for unde £70k. I wonder if the Sport 410 could be had for under £80k after a bit of negotiation?
I also wonder if it makes sense for some people to go for the Evora 400 and add the carbon bits onto it so you keep the sound deadening and slightly softer spring rates for those that aren't going to track the car.
There seem to be three finance offers in the market for the Evora 400 for those interested:
EVORA 400 - 50/50 24 MONTH FINANCE
Terms of Agreement (Months) - 24 Months
Annual Mileage - 10,000
23 Monthly Payments of - £0.00
On The Road Price* - £72,950.00
Customer Deposit - £36,475.00
Total Amount of Credit - £36,475.00
Acceptance Fee - £0.00
Option to Purchase Fee - £0.00
Final Payment - £36,475.00
Total Amount Payable by Customer - £72,950.00
Representative APR - 0.00%
Fixed Rate of Interest per Annum - 0.00%
EVORA 400 - 49 MONTH FINANCE
Terms of Agreement (Months) - 49 Months
Annual Mileage - 10,000
48 Monthly Payments of - £789.00
On The Road Price* - £72,950.00
Customer Deposit - £23,154.00
Total Amount of Credit - £49,796.00
Acceptance Fee - £0.00
Option to Purchase Fee - £10.00
Final Payment - £23,523.00
Total Amount Payable by Customer - £84,549.00
Representative APR - 7.90%
Fixed Rate of Interest per Annum - 7.62%
EVORA 400 - 49 MONTH FINANCE
Terms of Agreement (Months) - 49 Months
Annual Mileage - 10,000
48 Monthly Payments of - £699.00
On The Road Price* - £72,950.00
Customer Deposit - £21,693.50
Total Amount of Credit - £51,256.50
Acceptance Fee - £0.00
Option to Purchase Fee - £10.00
Final Payment - £23,610.00
Total Amount Payable by Customer - £78,855.50
Representative APR - 3.9%
Fixed Rate of Interest per Annum - 3.83%
The 410 comes with a few extras as standard that makes it cheaper than adding those bits to the 400, even allowing for adding back the sat nav with its mandatory sound proofing and the air con. I think the standard seats are a NCO for the 410? I would expect the 410 to hold onto its value better as it is a limited production model (150 a year I think) as well.
Good video of the 400's exhaust vs. the GT4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n19_4hXjiC0 Personally I prefer the less crackle and pops of the 400.
Although if Porsche did do a new version on the GT4 would it still be the 6 cylinder, and if not would they be able to make it sound as good?
Good video of the 400's exhaust vs. the GT4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n19_4hXjiC0 Personally I prefer the less crackle and pops of the 400.
Although if Porsche did do a new version on the GT4 would it still be the 6 cylinder, and if not would they be able to make it sound as good?
cib24 said:
There seem to be three finance offers in the market for the Evora 400 for those interested:
They all have pretty enormous deposits. I can't help but feel that's not the way to "sell" cars at the moment. They need some packages with <£5k deposits to sell to the "I've going to rent a new car for the rest of my life" proportion of "buyers" who seem to make up most of the market these days.Well, those offers are finance to own offers so the deposit and payments will be larger than a lease that you hand back after 3 years.
I could be out of touch, but I would be surprised to see any car at £80k or more that requires less than £5k down for a PCP or even a lease, but I guess they must be out there if you are referring to it.
Here is a Porsche 911 Carrera S example of finance to own, although I am sure there are others. A large upfront deposit is required as well:
http://www.porsche.com/uk/models/911/911-carrera-s...
Personal Contract Plan
35 monthly payments of £753.99
Customer deposit £21,700.00
Recommended on-the-road price £86,412.00
Amount of credit £64,712.00
Optional final payment £48,489.90
Total amount payable £96,589.55
Option to purchase fee (Payable with optional final payment) £10.00
Rate of Interest 6.1% Fixed
Representative APR 6.1% APR
I could be out of touch, but I would be surprised to see any car at £80k or more that requires less than £5k down for a PCP or even a lease, but I guess they must be out there if you are referring to it.
Here is a Porsche 911 Carrera S example of finance to own, although I am sure there are others. A large upfront deposit is required as well:
http://www.porsche.com/uk/models/911/911-carrera-s...
Personal Contract Plan
35 monthly payments of £753.99
Customer deposit £21,700.00
Recommended on-the-road price £86,412.00
Amount of credit £64,712.00
Optional final payment £48,489.90
Total amount payable £96,589.55
Option to purchase fee (Payable with optional final payment) £10.00
Rate of Interest 6.1% Fixed
Representative APR 6.1% APR
No doubt that one of the big drivers of price inflation of all cars and the proliferation of premium brands is the availability of low deposit, low rate, high garunteed future value finance packages. If Lotus struggle for sales it's certainly a way to open the market up.
Is looking increasingly like they won't have to do so with fabulous cars like this.
Is looking increasingly like they won't have to do so with fabulous cars like this.
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