RE: Ford Focus RS Mk2: PH Heroes

[jonm01]

Dafuq said:

This............

The end.

Seriously? You need certifying if you buy a 20k M5 or M6

They are a moneypit

[kevinking2020]

They are nice cars and quick but wouldn't pay 20k.

You better off getting an Volvo S60R with the same engine. 300BHP standard and it's 4WD. Brembo calipers all round and the active chassis settings (change the suspension settings from soft to hard).

I paid less than 4k for my Volvo S60R and I love it, proper sleeper car. They ain't bad for a 13 year old car, with 107,000 miles still going strong

[epom]

Escort Si-130 said:

Damn at price, although it wasn't used that much. I cant justify spending that kind of money. Maybe one for a speculator.

RamboLambo said:

Get a load of this :

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/f...

40 big ones and no where near the following of a Mk II Focus RS

Wowzers, bit late for the speculator there I think. Wonder what that would actually sell for ?

[mwstewart]

I got to drive the Mk2 before it was released due to working for Ford at the time, and it still sticks in my mind as a bloody good fun hot hatch. The noise, suspension setup, seats, and handling just made it. The image isn't for me but if you can look past that its a barrel of laughs. 20k doesn't seem like a lot really?

BricktopST205 said:

Toyota had revoknuckle and perfohub beat by 15+ years with superstrut.

Actually British Leyland had Toyota beat by 20 years. Ford developed the Revo Knuckle for the Mk1 but couldn't get a reliable joint - I think the lower. It was also to be alloy rather than cast iron on the Mk2. IIRC the 'Revo Knuckle' patent is for the lower joint but essentially the entire concept is what BL came up with in the '60's.

Edited by mwstewart on Tuesday 22 November 15:02

[Ahbefive]

kevinking2020 said:

They are nice cars and quick but wouldn't pay 20k.

You better off getting an Volvo S60R with the same engine. 300BHP standard and it's 4WD. Brembo calipers all round and the active chassis settings (change the suspension settings from soft to hard).

I paid less than 4k for my Volvo S60R and I love it, proper sleeper car. They ain't bad for a 13 year old car, with 107,000 miles still going strong

I have an S60R, great comfy and fast car but its not fun like an RS is, not fun at all, a totally different thing.

[s m]

epom said:

Escort Si-130 said:

Damn at price, although it wasn't used that much. I cant justify spending that kind of money. Maybe one for a speculator.

RamboLambo said:

Get a load of this :

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/f...

40 big ones and no where near the following of a Mk II Focus RS

Wowzers, bit late for the speculator there I think. Wonder what that would actually sell for ?

Maybe 30k on the right day

https://www.silverstoneauctions.com/1990-ford-esco...

[Olivera]

Ahbefive said:

kevinking2020 said:

They are nice cars and quick but wouldn't pay 20k.

You better off getting an Volvo S60R with the same engine. 300BHP standard and it's 4WD. Brembo calipers all round and the active chassis settings (change the suspension settings from soft to hard).

I paid less than 4k for my Volvo S60R and I love it, proper sleeper car. They ain't bad for a 13 year old car, with 107,000 miles still going strong

I have an S60R, great comfy and fast car but its not fun like an RS is, not fun at all, a totally different thing.

The Volvo handles like a bloaty, floppy, blancmange in comparison to the Focus, and I say that as a V70R owner.

[kevinking2020]

Ahbefive said:

I have an S60R, great comfy and fast car but its not fun like an RS is, not fun at all, a totally different thing.

I suppose but depends what you've done to the R. Yeah RS is probably more fun but for the same performance you could get the R for less money and has more features.

[Uncle John]

kevinking2020 said:

Ahbefive said:

I have an S60R, great comfy and fast car but its not fun like an RS is, not fun at all, a totally different thing.

I suppose but depends what you've done to the R. Yeah RS is probably more fun but for the same performance you could get the R for less money and has more features.

Haha!! Brilliant.

[kevinking2020]

Olivera said:

The Volvo handles like a bloaty, floppy, blancmange in comparison to the Focus, and I say that as a V70R owner.

Yeah there not the best handling cars. They are heavy cars but with a few upgrades it will make the handling alot better.

[Ahbefive]

The S60R is a great car and I don't think it handles like a boat compared to other big saloon cars but it has limited steering feel and really feels heavy. It's not a car you can chuck about at all much like an Audi S4/S6 isn't.

Mine has around 330bhp and may out accelerate an RS from a standstill but I'd expect and RS to reel it in quickly after 60mph and certainly be more fun in the bends.

[peter450]

RamboLambo said:

Get a load of this :

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/f...

40 big ones and no where near the following of a Mk II Focus RS

That's a dry stored museum car, good examples don't cost anywhere near that.

And it had a pretty big following in its day

Theirs definitely a chance the MKII could become a big money classic, but the shadow of the AWD MKIII does loom large, time will tell

The big ? For me is will the classic market still be viable in 30 years time, the reason classics "work" is because you can still use and maintain them, if the petrol infrastructure no longer exists and their is no readily available method of synthesizing your own fuel at home then the market will end up as dead as a dodo in my view

[checkmate91]

When I passed my driving test in 1979 I lusted after a Porsche 911 Turbo, then the fast production car in the World. Roll forward to 2009, thirty years later when I could afford to put down my deposit to buy a Focus RS which could out-perform my dream car of thirty years earlier. I've driven my RS nearly every day since, covering over 118,500 miles and am still enjoying every minute of my ownership. Mine clearly is not a £30k example but the high values are what the markets call adaptive pricing i.e the price reflects the buyers's propensity to buy.

Proper susp, brakes, power and exhaust system make me a happy boy (oh and Michelin Pilot Super Sports, essential mod along with solid susp bushes) and, once the timing belt's done I'm looking forward to taking it to star ship mileage. Mine's worth nothing although on the basis of this thread around £12k oh and mine's a blue one.

Edited by checkmate91 on Tuesday 22 November 23:28

[Ahbefive]

Good on you. Widely acclaimed as an awesome hot hatch despite the naysayers on here.

[p1stonhead]

checkmate91 said:

When I passed my driving test in 1979 I lusted after a Porsche 911 Turbo, then the fast production car in the World. Roll forward to 2009, thirty years later when I could afford to put down my deposit to buy a Focus RS which could out-perform my dream car of thirty years earlier. I've driven my RS nearly every day since, covering over 118,500 miles and am still enjoying every minute of my ownership. Mine clearly is not a £30k example but the high values are what the markets call adaptive pricing i.e the price reflects the buyers's propensity to buy.

Proper susp, brakes, power and exhaust system make me a happy boy (oh and Michelin Pilot Super Sports, essential mod along with solid susp bushes) and, once the timing belt's done I'm looking forward to taking it to star ship mileage. Mine's worth nothing although on the basis of this thread around £12k oh and mine's a blue one.

Edited by checkmate91 on Tuesday 22 November 23:28

Am I missing something? Which current RS is faster than a current 911 turbo?

[Ahbefive]

Yes you are missing something. Try reading again.

[p1stonhead]

Ahbefive said:

Yes you are missing something. Try reading again.

You are right.

But I dont see what the point is in comparing a 1979 car to a 2009 one. Why didnt he buy a current 911 turbo or compare it to that?

I bought a 1 litre fiesta once which was faster than the first car ever made. Incredible machine it was....

[316Mining]

p1stonhead said:

You are right.

But I dont see what the point is in comparing a 1979 car to a 2009 one. Why didnt he buy a current 911 turbo or compare it to that?

I bought a 1 litre fiesta once which was faster than the first car ever made. Incredible machine it was....

Because he had 20k to spend not 100k.

Seems obvious to me.

He's stating that he can by a car (new) for 20k that can out perform hid childhood dream/hero car.

[RamboLambo]

Maybe the Mk II Focus RS will appreciate to more than £200,000

[anonymous-user]

316Mining said:

Because he had 20k to spend not 100k.

Seems obvious to me.

He's stating that he can by a car (new) for 20k that can out perform hid childhood dream/hero car.

And it's still totally irrelevant.